Second Doctor's Sonic Screwdriver

Let's please keep this thread about the 2nd Doctor's sonic. Any info, cool pics, etc.

It's great to hear that someone will be making exact replicas (whether on board or off) so let's just be happy about that and not dive into territory that's going to get more members banned. That's never a good thing no matter who they support!

mooneye63, as is with the whistle we have you to thank for the penlight discovery so THANK YOU! (y))
 
Let's please keep this thread about the 2nd Doctor's sonic. Any info, cool pics, etc.

It's great to hear that someone will be making exact replicas (whether on board or off) so let's just be happy about that and not dive into territory that's going to get more members banned. That's never a good thing no matter who they support!

mooneye63, as is with the whistle we have you to thank for the penlight discovery so THANK YOU! (y))

I totally agree, I for one have been PMing members to keep this on track. Many thanks for the thanks Michael. :) Two in 1 year aint bad eh? Must put some time aside to look at that prop used in The Dominators! ;)
 
And getting back on track, I finally found some time to get caps of The Dominators Sonic screwdriver. Which, to my eyes, is indeed a third version.

Now, it's a bit odd because in the story we see the Doctor first pull something off then slip something else on, which appears to be an handle. And in some of the pictures we can see him using the handle while in others it seem like he is holding the penlight without it but in the same manner.

This one appears to have a smaller, rounder, darker end cap. Still has a pocket clip but appears to have a removable tip, because at one point it is seen to be hollow. And then again it is seem to have the same black end piece.

It's pretty pic heavy so you have been warned.

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Here the tip looks to be hollow and it could be but in another pic it appears to be another end cap:
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Now that could have been a trick of the light because in later shots it looks hollow again, but here it's either an end cap or just lighting making the inter tube look like a bulbous end cap. Also you can see the handle the Doctor slipped on as well:
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In this one the tip looks to be curved like the bulbous end cap would make it but I believe that is just the motion causing it to look that way as you will seen in a the next few pics it looks flat, open and hollow:
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A nice shot of the pocket clip:
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Here you can see the end tipt looking flat, round and open:
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And now two shots shoing the basic body shape, end cap and pocket clip. Also, in all the above pics save the first one you can see the handle the Doctor put on, but in these last two you will notice the handle is absent and it looks just like a standard pen light again. Not the one Straker and Mooneye found either. Which is why in the beginning I mentioned it looks like we do have a third sonic for Pat:
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Another observation I wanted to add was that in "The Dominators" Jamie's dialogue suggests that he recognized this sonic screwdriver as the Doctor brings it out. But the stories since "Furty from the Deep" have all been consecutive and connected from ends to beginnings. So it is suggested - story wise - that the sonic has not changed shape. Although of course we know thanks to the work by Straker and Mooneye that it has before and will again by the time of the War Games (which isn't in question here so far). But I found it interesting since there was no time for the Doctor to make a new one and it was only natural for the writers to act as though it were the same one and the props department to scramble again. That said, it does seem to help those who want to ignore the whistle for their collection. Which it's not true that the whistle was never used - at least so far as the evidence we have now suggests - story wise it seems that a whistle was never used.
 
Good screen grabs there!

Yep I thought as much. Do you know I do have vague recollections as a kid in the '60's, that there was a toy that we slid over pens to make a gun. Was it a secret agent kit? Something like that, I cant quite remember? So, I'm wondering if this is what Pat is using to slip over his prop?

Further points, the clip on this and the round end is totally different in shape and colour (Black V Light Grey) to the one used in War Games & the one that I have a copy of. Also I think in the close-up of the Dominators Sonic, Pat has forgotten to put the slip-on trigger.

Ignore the Whistle? Ignore the Whistle!!!!! You cant do that Brian ;)
 
I can't I know! But I do [refer the pen lights to it, but yeah it's just too hard to ignore!

I'm curious about this secret agent kit now, hope you or someone can find pics of what you mean. And yeah I suspected it was left off by mistake, which is good as it let us get a nice view of the end cap.

I do like the idea that the sonic screwdriver started it's life with casings from things the Doctor had lying around the TARDIS or his pockets. and as it got more advanced the casing became more custom made. That's why whistle or pen light it seems ok to me because they may look simple to any human but what's inside these familiar items is so much cooler.
 
I'm curious about this secret agent kit now, hope you or someone can find pics of what you mean.

Yeah its just tugging gently at the back of my head. The Man From Uncle, Batman even? Perhaps a Potato gun cashing in on some TV series? It does ring a bell. I wonder if anyone else older can remember a toy like that?
 
And getting back on track, I finally found some time to get caps of The Dominators Sonic screwdriver. Which, to my eyes, is indeed a third version.
Do you remember which episode this is from in the Dominators arc? I'm trying to see it in motion but I'm not sure which episode to watch.
I can watch them all but if you know off hand, it would be helpful.
 
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Do you remember which episode this is from in the Dominators arc? I'm trying to see it in motion but I'm not sure which episode to watch.
I can watch them all but if you know off hand, it would be helpful.That image was posted pages ago and I believe CT didn't want it in this thread (since it says it was removed by his request).

It was the Last episode. When they are in the bunker and the Doctor needs to cut a hole in the wall. So Episode 5.
 
It was the Last episode. When they are in the bunker and the Doctor needs to cut a hole in the wall. So Episode 5.
Thanks. My version isn't as high quality as yours and it crops a little of the image to the left. He looks like he's miming the assembly, so there may not be an extra piece he puts on. It's probably a handle they made and affixed to the front half of a pen light. It looks like he's sliding it on, but it's all an illusion.
It goes like this:
There's a closeup shot of him unscrewing the sonic. Then he takes the two pieces he's unscrewed and puts them back together. He doesn't screw it back in, he's just holding it in place. Then he points it like a gun.
Then there's a special effects shot, very likely done later, maybe with a different prop.
Then the wide shot with the sonic that appears to be hollow.

My theory is that it was a pen light they glued a wooden grip to. The pen light twists in half near the cap. The cap is the female part, the main body is the male part. Pat didn't have time to actually assemble it during the scene, so he's faked it and is holding it together. Problem is, he put the front half on backwards, probably so it would be flush with the cap. The black "bulb" we're seeing is actually the guts of the pen light. Like the battery compartment. Then in the wide shot, the sonic is assembled properly.
 
It's possible, but I do think the black bulb at the end does look like a proper bulb/end cap where as the front looks like the guts of the pen light. And I think Pat unscrews on end and slots the penlight onto the handle which may have a peg for him to do so. It looks like they just slip it in. That is how I saw it and I did it frame by frame as well. But it is hard to tell since we have very little to go on. In one shot the handle isn't even on the prop. The he is just holding it in a similar fashion which says to me there was no glued on prop although you could argue there was two yes.
 
Non-canon props I would love to build/own

1) The First Doctor's cane as a sonic cane ala the Eleventh Doctor.

2) The Second Doctor's recorder which transforms INTO a sonic screwdriver. Heck, it makes sound. Sound equals sonic! :)
 
Yes I have seen those photos ages ago too. Even so, it would be pretty hard for anyone make a copy without the original as the packaging masks a lot of the detail. I believe another company also produced a similar version too in the 60's.
 
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Not sure I understand as you said previously about size and batteries. The detail on the cap and tip is different and as yet I haven't seen anyone adapt any of their Chrome penlights.
 
Did you make that one?

No, it is the same Ever Ready model used by Troughton. After reading this forum and finding out what model he used I did a lot of digging around the internet to try and find one. I'm not surprised nobody here seems to have managed to find one, as far as I can tell this one might have been the only one for sale on the entire internet. Found it on ebid, bought it for £2. I haven't put a battery in yet so I don't know if it works, but I will soon post more photos from different angles and measurements and stuff in case it helps any of you lot who are making your own.
 
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