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[Mara Jade's Father]

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I do wonder as well
this looks like some good ol’ fashioned prop finagling to me

I think this is because there is something weird going on with the finishing of these props. If you look at that area and the rest of the surface, it almost looks light there is some sort of dirt or grit painted into the item. It think there were particles in the groove areas as well that were painted over. As a result, the corners and seams look rough. Not sure if this was something done intentionally or not by the prop builder or maybe it was something that accumulated on the found (and previously used) item and they just left it.

 

[E Williams]

Otherwise I just don't know why the paint would be bare in those weird grooves that look like they were made bu drilling holes.

Maybe the main color was painted with a brush? If done quickly enough or with a larger brush, paint wouldn't get on the inside of the holes.

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

Maybe the main color was painted with a brush? If done quickly enough or with a larger brush, paint wouldn't get on the inside of the holes.

Possibly, but I would say no since it looks more like it is a chipping effect and it appears to be every hole. SoI would think the odds that a sloppy paint job would still get paint in a few of those areas.

 

[roygilsing]

Lot #739 didn't sell! So guys, it's still available for one of us!

Prop Store Auction

 

[PoopaPapaPalps]

Hmmm....that's a good down payment for a house though.

Choices, choices.

 

[andyroo]

I don't know why but I feel like this prop has some connection to the Death Star interface R2D2 uses.

 

[roygilsing]

I'd like your options!

I'm well underway building my 3D model. It's getting very accurate and I might start a new thread soon. I have an Alba and a Ferguson record player on my way and I can soon confirm if they match the real prop (and my model)

But the bottom is a bit of a dilemma.
If you look at the bottom image that Gus Lopez took we can see a flat area with a counter sunk screw. But the sticker on the bottom has the same size as the tube! How can this be? Could it be that the tube has a step inward and that they glued the adhesive sticker on that?

Here is the bottom with the screw. You can see the tube if it's extended to the bottom, which isn't possible because you wouldn't see the screw.

Here's a possible way it's done. But then the sticker is larger than the bottom size:

What's happening? Any ideas?
It's hard to explain it.

 

[roygilsing]

I don't know why but I feel like this prop has some connection to the Death Star interface R2D2 uses.

It looks like it, similar in size, but it's clearly very different.

 

[division 6]

That pic is on Bespin.

 

[thd9791]

Yea i always thought that was the shell to a record player of some kind

 

[division 6]

 

[E Williams]

Here is the bottom with the screw. You can see the tube if it's extended to the bottom, which isn't possible because you wouldn't see the screw.

Maybe that tube with the sticker plate is a separate piece? It could slide into the body tube, and the lights, switch, and mixer/phonograph slider knobs could be attached to it? It would be wider at the base to match what we see under the sticker. I don't know how to interpret this image but the propstore image has a hint at what's under the sticker:

If there is an internal tube/assembly as above, would the mitchell/transcriptor knobs hold it all in place? Are they long enough? This photo (don't remember source, sorry) shows one without the transcriptor knobs and the switch knob is lower, and the sliding knobs aren't visible (though it could be that the slider knobs are simply not present, not that they are just recessed too far).

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

Here's a possible way it's done. But then the sticker is larger than the bottom size:
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I think that is pretty much how it is. Whatever that thing you are calling a sticker, is simply something they glued on the end, maybe to create a flush surface and/or to seal in components. Whatever it was, I think it was a large sheet of something and once it was fixed in place, they quickly cut it away in the general shape of a circle and was not concerned about how close it was trimmed to the part.

I am also going to speculate that the main body is a found item that is made up of two pieces that are naturally attached together. That screw, (and assuming there are 3 more) were not added by the prop builders. I also cannot see any evidence either way that the screws are or are not aiding in keeping the skirt piece in place.

 

[E Williams]

roygilsing I noticed one other thing. It seems that the edges marked with red arrows should be lower, so that the top portion is thicker for the most part. Maybe the outer wall of the cylinder is thicker as well? Then the screws holding on the skirt would have something more to bite into. I don't know how to account for what does look to be a thinner area at the green arrow.

Here is a crude edit of your drawing with the thicker walls and second inserted part with wider base:

 

[chazzychaz]

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The top pic. those aluminum parts to the side look like transcriptor self leveling pads!

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

I have another thought. What if the screws are the bottom plate of the found part used for the main body. However since the bottom would not be long enough touch for mounting on the ceiling for the scene, they simply added some sort of extesion. For all we know they cut out a crude circle to use as a mounting plate and stuck a wood block between them. After all, we really don’t see cylinder in the underside images, just the crude formed bottom.

 

[lonepigeon]

The 3D model is looking great!
I hate to be vague about this especially after the whole "mystery chunk" discovery debate, but I've already identified the slide switch and the other metal greeblie inside the top recess. These pieces and other prop parts will be revealed eventually on The Parts of Star Wars Facebook page.
I'm speaking up now because I see you're wasting money on record players and real measurements might help with the 3D model.
The slide switches are not from any consumer electronics device. I wish they were as they'd be easier to find. After months of trying to get any that I can, I've only found 4.
Thankfully, the other greeblie is still produced and cheap although they require a minimum order of 400 and they're on backorder until November.

The only unknown pieces, besides the body, are the two pieces above and below the V8 gear.
I feel like the dome-like top piece looks like a nail on furniture foot, but I have not found a match.
The piece underneath seems like a Michell piece but doesn't match anything I have on hand or seem to match anything I have photos of.

Chris

 

[coolhanluked]

A lot of us are not on social media.

 

[roygilsing]

Thank you lonepigeon for chiming in and clearing a few things up! Quite a shock if those slider knobs I found are incorrect! Let's see if they are close enough for my build at least.
And it's great to hear you found the other top greeblie! A MOQ of 400 could be doable for in my WannaWanga shop.
I hope the reveal comes soon!

roygilsing I noticed one other thing. It seems that the edges marked with red arrows should be lower, so that the top portion is thicker for the most part. Maybe the outer wall of the cylinder is thicker as well? Then the screws holding on the skirt would have something more to bite into. I don't know how to account for what does look to be a thinner area at the green arrow.

Here is a crude edit of your drawing with the thicker walls and second inserted part with wider base:
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Yes, those cavity and half open details I have covered already. What you saw was my simple first version to match the pictures.

And your bottom insert piece is definitely an option.

About the parts above and below the V8 cog wheel. I have a few ideas about those.
The aluminium knob below could perhaps be a volume knob. If it truly functions as an on/off switch it's very likely that there's a pot meter installed. Having the original knob attached makes sense. The side hole is perhaps for a set screw. I have a correct size knob and potentiometer ordered and on their way.
The metal cap above is perhaps a part of an electronic component. Perhaps the back end of a speaker or transistor? It's about 20mm in diameter. Here's an example:

But that's just a guess of course.

Roy

 

[roygilsing]

I think that is pretty much how it is. Whatever that thing you are calling a sticker, is simply something they glued on the end, maybe to create a flush surface and/or to seal in components. Whatever it was, I think it was a large sheet of something and once it was fixed in place, they quickly cut it away in the general shape of a circle and was not concerned about how close it was trimmed to the part.

I am also going to speculate that the main body is a found item that is made up of two pieces that are naturally attached together. That screw, (and assuming there are 3 more) were not added by the prop builders. I also cannot see any evidence either way that the screws are or are not aiding in keeping the skirt piece in place.

I agree on the sheet or whatever it is. Maybe it's a cover sheet for the adhesive underneath.

About the bottom screw: it's not perfectly aligned with the holes. This is strange if it was all part of the originals. So either the screws are done afterwards or the venting holes.
But I do think they're intended to keep the skirt in place!
I do agree that the two parts were always attached together: they have a perfect fit.

Roy