Ron Weasley's Deluminator
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PHArchivist
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Assuming this is what they used, how do you suppose they managed the rising insert tube?
The antique scent bottles do not seem to have this, suggesting teh part was added on to the prop.
The antique scent bottles do not seem to have this, suggesting teh part was added on to the prop.
I managed to dig up a shot of the scene where the will is read out. Here 's a cropped pic of Ron holding the deluminator. To me, it looks smaller than the original Philosophers stone one too. When looking at the screencaps above.
It also looks like there are models of the perfume bottles that have spring loaded caps, that flip up at the touch of a little button on the neck.
unfortunatly, the one pictured above is a true antique, and has a £445 price tag!
I'm pretty convinced that the production team just scooped up one of these cheaply then used it as it is for the last film. I don't think it is as complex as the original.
I dunno, that's how I see it anyway...
PHArchivist
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I don't think that the extending part exists on the Deathly Hallows version, but I don;t think we can be certain until the DVD comes out.
It may be that the Philosophers/Scorcerers stone version had something fitted inside with a simple slide coming out of a slot milled in the side of the body, then, when it's pushed up out of the body, it simply pops the existing lid off on it's hinge?
Not sure. The Philosophers Stone version could be an entirely different set up than the DH one. As Construct pointed out, the lower cap is much smaller in the PS version, and the DH one looks to be symmetrycal (apologies for my spelling of symmetrical?)
It may be that the Philosophers/Scorcerers stone version had something fitted inside with a simple slide coming out of a slot milled in the side of the body, then, when it's pushed up out of the body, it simply pops the existing lid off on it's hinge?
Not sure. The Philosophers Stone version could be an entirely different set up than the DH one. As Construct pointed out, the lower cap is much smaller in the PS version, and the DH one looks to be symmetrycal (apologies for my spelling of symmetrical?)
PHArchivist
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Is the lower cap really smaller?
If this is all we're basing it on so far, I'd suggest that the dark image, and the possiblity that Harris' hand is covering part, may be creating an illusion.
If this is all we're basing it on so far, I'd suggest that the dark image, and the possiblity that Harris' hand is covering part, may be creating an illusion.
PHArchivist
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Yeah - and none of the antique bottles appear to have varying sized caps. They all seem basically symmetrical.
Good point on the dabbers. I was noticing that too.
It may be easy (relatively) to insert a tube into the glass bottle that - in turn - can house a spring loaded "emitter" that would pop up when the cap is flipped open.
Not sure about the slide switch on the side though.
Good point on the dabbers. I was noticing that too.
It may be easy (relatively) to insert a tube into the glass bottle that - in turn - can house a spring loaded "emitter" that would pop up when the cap is flipped open.
Not sure about the slide switch on the side though.
PHArchivist
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I just watched it via the link here (not off the DVD). Sure looks to be a 1:1 connection between the slide switch and the "emitter". Also seems to be a mildly complex inner cap.
The main cap is already open when we cut to the insert close-up shot, but as the "emitter" rises, it seems to flip open a second cap.
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Construct
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PHArchivist is right; the lower cap appearing to be smaller on the PS deluminator is just an illusion. I still say the DH deluminator is a Victorian double-ended scent bottle whilst the PS deluminator is a table lighter masquerading as an oversized one. On the subject of the latter, a single-piece connection (purple) joins the insides of the inner cap and chimney and a three-piece connection (pink) joins the outsides of the inner cap and the ring the chimney rises out of:
The inner cap is under the control of the chimney and thus the slider. The outer cap is popped open by the rising inner cap but has to be manually flipped closed (which can be done with a flick of the wrist, so its hinge must be unsprung).
The inner cap is under the control of the chimney and thus the slider. The outer cap is popped open by the rising inner cap but has to be manually flipped closed (which can be done with a flick of the wrist, so its hinge must be unsprung).
Shade
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Goin a bit Off Topic for a second, but when you guys type PS for "Philosophers Stone", I was like, "WTF are they talkin about?" But then I remembered it went by 2 names. Sorcerers Stone is the American title for the book.
Back OT, that lower cap is the same size as the top. Just an illusion.
Back OT, that lower cap is the same size as the top. Just an illusion.
HeirofOlivander
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Great ideas, I was wanting to make one for myself as well. I thought about making one like a stunt prop that doesn't open. I bought an acrylic pen blank which almost matched the very dark green color, machine it to give it flat sides. The two end caps are silver drawer pulls and I am still looking for a silver sliding switch that I can glue on the side of the barrel. I also wish noble would make one, well I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Closest I've found to the Deathly Hallows version. Here was the description of the item (sorry for all caps, I just copied and pasted):
ANTIQUE EMERALD GREEN GLASS DOUBLE ENDED SCENT/PERFUME BOTTLE WITH STERLING SILVER HALLMARKED LIDS. AT ONE END IS A CORK LINED SCREW TOP LID AND AT THE OTHER END IS A HINGED LID WITH IT'S ORIGINAL INNER GLASS STOPPER.MEASURES 12.5cms IN LENGTH
THE BOTTLE IS HALLMARKED LONDON WITH THE MAKERS MARK FOR THE FAMOUS CHARLES MAY,DATE MARK FOR 1881. THE BOTTLE IS OFFERED IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. THE GLASS HAS NO CHIPS CRACKS OR FRACTURES.THE SILVER LIDS BOTH HAVE FIRM AND SECURE FITS.THE LIDS HAVE A FEW VERY SMALL DINGS TO THEM,BOTH NECKS ARE INTACT AND THE GLASS INNER STOPPER IS ALSO UNDAMAGED.
ANTIQUE EMERALD GREEN GLASS DOUBLE ENDED SCENT/PERFUME BOTTLE WITH STERLING SILVER HALLMARKED LIDS. AT ONE END IS A CORK LINED SCREW TOP LID AND AT THE OTHER END IS A HINGED LID WITH IT'S ORIGINAL INNER GLASS STOPPER.MEASURES 12.5cms IN LENGTH
THE BOTTLE IS HALLMARKED LONDON WITH THE MAKERS MARK FOR THE FAMOUS CHARLES MAY,DATE MARK FOR 1881. THE BOTTLE IS OFFERED IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. THE GLASS HAS NO CHIPS CRACKS OR FRACTURES.THE SILVER LIDS BOTH HAVE FIRM AND SECURE FITS.THE LIDS HAVE A FEW VERY SMALL DINGS TO THEM,BOTH NECKS ARE INTACT AND THE GLASS INNER STOPPER IS ALSO UNDAMAGED.
Because of the research I did looking for the Veritaserum bottle, when I saw Deathly Hallows 1, I recognized the deluminator as a double ended perfume bottle immediately. I then watched for it in the later scenes, and In My Humble Opinion, I truley believe the prop is actually a deep blue - much like this one:
I won't argue that the stills shown in some of the previous post suggest green, and the deluminator from Sorcerer's Stone also looks to be possibly green. But I did watch DH1 very carefully, and I'm positive I saw blue glints.
ATL
I won't argue that the stills shown in some of the previous post suggest green, and the deluminator from Sorcerer's Stone also looks to be possibly green. But I did watch DH1 very carefully, and I'm positive I saw blue glints.
ATL
PHArchivist
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Anybody happen to get one of these bottles yet?
It seems these have a real following in their own right, I guess it depends on how old each piece is. It looks like we don't have to hack it appart to make it accurate though which is good! I guess these things will always keep their value.
I went back to the shop where I originally saw one of these for £35, it was too big and it's purple, but I was in the shop anyway so I thought i'd take a closer look. It turns out it's priced at £135, not £35!
I think we'll just have to keep a savvy eye out when were rooting through garage sales and charity shops. Yet another thing to add to the list of vintage parts we all have to keep in the back of our minds!
I went back to the shop where I originally saw one of these for £35, it was too big and it's purple, but I was in the shop anyway so I thought i'd take a closer look. It turns out it's priced at £135, not £35!
I think we'll just have to keep a savvy eye out when were rooting through garage sales and charity shops. Yet another thing to add to the list of vintage parts we all have to keep in the back of our minds!
Here's the one I just got:
I believe my hands are probably larger than Rupert's (I'm 6'-5") and my left hand's in the wrong place :rolleyes, but I believe it's pretty close.
Here's a scaled image.
I agree with Pete SSS that these bottles will probably retain their value since they are already collector's items.
ATL
I believe my hands are probably larger than Rupert's (I'm 6'-5") and my left hand's in the wrong place :rolleyes, but I believe it's pretty close.
Here's a scaled image.
I agree with Pete SSS that these bottles will probably retain their value since they are already collector's items.
ATL
