Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Pre-release)

[astroboy]

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I am a bit nervous about the over-saturation of Star Wars, but I'm hoping they are starting to see that in Marvel, and will hold back a bit on Star Wars.

Hopefully they see this as a totally different thing.

The great thing about comic books is that they are classic stories that get retold over and over again over the years. There is nothing gospel about them.

But the 6 films of star wars are gospel. That IS the story. We can expand upon it as much as we want, but we don't get an opportunity to reboot.

With hope, Disney will only make these three "episodes" so that the skywalker saga consists of 12 films. But then make as many expanded adventures as they want. We love this galaxy and want more of it.

 

[Bryancd]

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Hopefully they see this as a totally different thing.

The great thing about comic books is that they are classic stories that get retold over and over again over the years. There is nothing gospel about them.

But the 6 films of star wars are gospel. That IS the story. We can expand upon it as much as we want, but we don't get an opportunity to reboot.

With hope, Disney will only make these three "episodes" so that the skywalker saga consists of 12 films. But then make as many expanded adventures as they want. We love this galaxy and want more of it.

Yes, this is the most likely route they will take. There will be a lot of content to consume, but spread over films, TV, animation, books, comics, games, even theme park attractions. But the films will always be the tent poles and a one per year schedule is very manageable.

 

[Bryancd]

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And I think the Saga films will be 12 with 10-12 focusing on our new heroes introduced in 7-9.

 

[niennumb1]

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It's not so much the amount coming out that worries me, it's the quality of it. So if the stuff is crap, then that's far less to be excited over. From what it's looking like though, there's some awesome stuff I am seeing.

I am very hopeful and not very worried on how the franchise is going to be handled from here on out. Everyone cares about it and I think it will be treated like their baby. It's Disney/Lucasfilm's job to make sure as the years go on that the material doesn't get in the wrong hands.

 

[astroboy]

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It's not so much the amount coming out that worries me, it's the quality of it. So if the stuff is crap, then that's far less to be excited over. From what it's looking like though, there's some awesome stuff I am seeing.

I am very hopeful and not very worried on how the franchise is going to be handled from here on out. Everyone cares about it and I think it will be treated like their baby. It's Disney/Lucasfilm's job to make sure as the years go on that the material doesn't get in the wrong hands.

You see, I guess this is where I'm worried. The MCU hasn't been consistent or of quality. I want them to be more thoughtful with star wars. I think the only movies I've like that they have done are the captain america flicks. And both of them had pretty outrageous endings. As exciting as the avengers was, the phantom menace is actually re-watchable.

Daredevil, however, has been awesome. That's one helluva great show.

Look at the Pirates of the Carribbean. That first one was awesome. So much potential for a fantastic trilogy. But the follow ups were so thoughtless. Plothole after convoluted plothole. Disney didn't care enough about that potentially amazing franchise. In a way, Pirates has more in common with the Star Wars franchise than the MCU does.

Star wars was the greatest cinematic event of our life. I hope that Disney understands what that means

 

[JD]

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The new anthology stuff might be great quality... but, it's a lot like the EU stuff for me: do these stories really warrant big screen treatment? I know over-saturation has been talked about a bit, at what point does this distract from the new trilogy? Yes, the initial look at this is pretty darn cool. I lost interest in much of the EU stuff just because it went off on tangents I really didn't think needed to be explored.

I'm sure folks like us on the RPF will do somersaults all the way to the theater to see it, but the general movie going public might get tired of this or it might just go over their heads.

Part of me is excited about this... but, there's still part of me that wonders if it might be better left to a direct-to-video or television (or books). I understand the folks with the mouse ears have probably done more research and analytics about this... and well, outside of Josh Trank - have some solid talent behind this.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

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You see, I guess this is where I'm worried. The MCU hasn't been consistent or of quality. I want them to be more thoughtful with star wars. I think the only movies I've like that they have done are the captain america flicks. And both of them had pretty outrageous endings. As exciting as the avengers was, the phantom menace is actually re-watchable.

Subjective, utterly. I've loved all the MCU films so far, each for its own reasons. The weakest for me was the Incredible Hulk, and that more because I felt Bruce and Betty were mis-cast. I like those actors -- just not for those parts. I don't expect Thor to feel like Iron Man, or Captain America: TFA to feel like Guardians of the Galaxy, and so on. I've watched all of them several times, and some of them many.

It's where I feel DC and Fox have been dropping the ball, for years. I re-watch the older Superman films, up through Returns (which I felt should have been two films, and that Singer shouldn't have telegraphed Lex's Evil Plan™, but still). I re-watch Batman Begins and TDK. I re-watch the first two X-Men movies (second more than the first). But none of them to the same degree. Lots of potential, handled badly. The flaws end up stacking far more noticeably than the Marvel Studios films. I'm curious what your criteria are, as I can have Avengers on an almost continuous loop, but can manage to watch Phantom Menace maybe once a year, and only through the eye of what I would have done differently.

Look at the Pirates of the Carribbean. That first one was awesome. So much potential for a fantastic trilogy. But the follow ups were so thoughtless. Plothole after convoluted plothole. Disney didn't care enough about that potentially amazing franchise. In a way, Pirates has more in common with the Star Wars franchise than the MCU does.

Again, very subjective. Dead Man's Chest had a very different pacing than the others, and I have to be in the right mood to watch it. World's End I thought was brilliant except for the too-long, CG-heavy battle round the whirlpool. And Stranger Tides was a terrific new direction after the Elizabeth/Will storyline had been wrapped up. I want to see more. Which of us is right?

--Jonah

 

[cayman shen]

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Subjective, utterly. I've loved all the MCU films so far, each for its own reasons. The weakest for me was the Incredible Hulk, and that more because I felt Bruce and Betty were mis-cast. I like those actors -- just not for those parts. I don't expect Thor to feel like Iron Man, or Captain America: TFA to feel like Guardians of the Galaxy, and so on. I've watched all of them several times, and some of them many.

It's where I feel DC and Fox have been dropping the ball, for years. I re-watch the older Superman films, up through Returns (which I felt should have been two films, and that Singer shouldn't have telegraphed Lex's Evil Plan™, but still). I re-watch Batman Begins and TDK. I re-watch the first two X-Men movies (second more than the first). But none of them to the same degree. Lots of potential, handled badly. The flaws end up stacking far more noticeably than the Marvel Studios films. I'm curious what your criteria are, as I can have Avengers on an almost continuous loop, but can manage to watch Phantom Menace maybe once a year, and only through the eye of what I would have done differently.



Again, very subjective. Dead Man's Chest had a very different pacing than the others, and I have to be in the right mood to watch it. World's End I thought was brilliant except for the too-long, CG-heavy battle round the whirlpool. And Stranger Tides was a terrific new direction after the Elizabeth/Will storyline had been wrapped up. I want to see more. Which of us is right?

--Jonah

I think it's widely agreed that the POTC sequels are boring convoluted cash grab garbage. Or did I miss the critical accolades?

 

[astroboy]

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Subjective, utterly. I've loved all the MCU films so far, each for its own reasons. The weakest for me was the Incredible Hulk, and that more because I felt Bruce and Betty were mis-cast. I like those actors -- just not for those parts. I don't expect Thor to feel like Iron Man, or Captain America: TFA to feel like Guardians of the Galaxy, and so on. I've watched all of them several times, and some of them many.

It's where I feel DC and Fox have been dropping the ball, for years. I re-watch the older Superman films, up through Returns (which I felt should have been two films, and that Singer shouldn't have telegraphed Lex's Evil Plan™, but still). I re-watch Batman Begins and TDK. I re-watch the first two X-Men movies (second more than the first). But none of them to the same degree. Lots of potential, handled badly. The flaws end up stacking far more noticeably than the Marvel Studios films. I'm curious what your criteria are, as I can have Avengers on an almost continuous loop, but can manage to watch Phantom Menace maybe once a year, and only through the eye of what I would have done differently.



Again, very subjective. Dead Man's Chest had a very different pacing than the others, and I have to be in the right mood to watch it. World's End I thought was brilliant except for the too-long, CG-heavy battle round the whirlpool. And Stranger Tides was a terrific new direction after the Elizabeth/Will storyline had been wrapped up. I want to see more. Which of us is right?

--Jonah

I actually agree with you about all if that. I guess my point is more about consistency than quality. I think the MCU can afford different styles of film making than star wars can. To me, Lucas created, not only a galaxy, but a style in which it should be told. Could you imagine a star wars movie without the opening crawl? Or the editing wipes? I don't feel like star wars stories should ever be rebooted. I know this rogue squadron should be a different thing than the core movies, but I hope that it's still a space opera.

As for pirates I do love them. And I've watched them several times. The second two had some amazing ideas, but they seemed to get a little overblown and tricky, plot wise.

 

[Vacformedhero]

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It could be a double bluff. This movie could be a rogue one. It could be the very movie we have all been wishing for. Or perhaps not.

Yeah the fett

 

[drcraig13]

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I only have one concern and it is what also hurt the PT. We know where this story is headed and we know that we can't have a happy ending. We knew that the Empire won and what happened to Anakin so the story had to be funneled down to that happening. That is were the problem lies with some of these feeder and supplement stories that won't be part of the new trilogy. On a side note that is why I am worried about Rebel's. We know that things aren't going to be good for them.

 

[seelsa73]

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I think it's widely agreed that the POTC sequels are boring convoluted cash grab garbage. Or did I miss the critical accolades?

The point he's trying to make is even the most universally hated movies have it's fans. I love the PT certainly not as much as the OT but still. And the PT is more universally hated than POTC series.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

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I actually agree with you about all if that. I guess my point is more about consistency than quality. I think the MCU can afford different styles of film making than star wars can. To me, Lucas created, not only a galaxy, but a style in which it should be told. Could you imagine a star wars movie without the opening crawl? Or the editing wipes? I don't feel like star wars stories should ever be rebooted. I know this rogue squadron should be a different thing than the core movies, but I hope that it's still a space opera.

Well, not Rogue Squadron. In fact, I'm hoping that's something this movie will utterly kill -- the myth of "Rogue Squadron". All based on EU writers misunderstanding what they were seeing in the films. But anyway. I honestly don't know if the non-episodic films should have opening crawls. Might make them too hard for casual viewers to distinguish from the Episodes. Never underestimate the power of audience stupidity. That said, there should be something that feels appropriate. I imagine it'll still have the title falling into the screen, as per usual. Then maybe a title card or narration or something setting the scene. As with Clone Wars and Rebels (although not the painfully '40s-newsreel-style narration of Clone Wars). They said in the panel that the keyword for this film is "real", and said also that this is Star Wars. And the folks involved with the filming crew have a track record of good war films like Saving Private Ryan and Blackhawk Down. So I expect less sweeping, more taut, but still awe-inspiring.

As for pirates I do love them. And I've watched them several times. The second two had some amazing ideas, but they seemed to get a little overblown and tricky, plot wise.

Yes. Agree wholeheartedly. (I'm sure there's a captain of the Flying Dutchman pun in there somewhere...) I think World's End would have been a far more enjoyable experience if I didn't get bored halfway through the big sea battle.

I only have one concern and it is what also hurt the PT. We know where this story is headed and we know that we can't have a happy ending. We knew that the Empire won and what happened to Anakin so the story had to be funneled down to that happening. That is were the problem lies with some of these feeder and supplement stories that won't be part of the new trilogy. On a side note that is why I am worried about Rebel's. We know that things aren't going to be good for them.

And yet. A good writer would have been able to have the Prequels end on a bittersweet note. The old order has fallen, things are bad, but there's a glimmer of a chance for fighting back once the forces for good have a chance to regroup and catch their breath. Same as the ending of Empire, only on a larger scale. As for Rebels, we still have no real idea. Plenty of debate over Yoda's "last of the Jedi" comment in ROTJ. Considering Ahsoka left the Order and Kanan was never knighted, he's right. So who knows what happens to the crew of the Ghost...?

--Jonah

 

[astroboy]

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I would LOVE to see a character from the ghost have a small role in the live action star wars flicks.

Hell, ashoka would be 70 by the force awakens

 

[joshvanrad]

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Maybe I missed it, but why are they keeping this trailer under wraps as much as they are?

 

[JD]

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I think it might have something to do with the new Mission Impossible movie, it's subtitle is Rogue Nation - and there might be an agreement or understanding to downplay Rogue One to avoid confusion. Plus, I don't think this was meant to be a trailer... just a teaser as I don't think filming has started.

 

[joshvanrad]

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I think it might have something to do with the new Mission Impossible movie, it's subtitle is Rogue Nation - and there might be an agreement or understanding to downplay Rogue One to avoid confusion. Plus, I don't think this was meant to be a trailer... just a teaser as I don't think filming has started.

Sorry, teaser is what I meant. But I suppose that makes sense. I would have just assumed the 2 franchises have enough difference between them to stand on their own. It just seems a little odd I guess.

 

[JD]

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Sorry, teaser is what I meant. But I suppose that makes sense. I would have just assumed the 2 franchises have enough difference between them to stand on their own. It just seems a little odd I guess.

I agree. Seems like a silly reason to release it.... but, it is a Bad Robot movie.

 

[joshvanrad]

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Oooooh! I had no idea it was a Bad Robot movie. That does make a tad more sense. MI is one of the franchises I really enjoy, but I literally know nothing about what happens off-screen or who works those films.

 

[KrangPrime]

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anyone think that disney could get james earl jones and ian mcD to reprise their roles in live action?