Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details

...sigh.

It's a kind of reductionism, just like the SW prequels, and EU. Everything revolves around a 'small' vision of space and society.

Aye. And it's the precise opposite of Alien, which implied such vastness, such a realistic disconnectedness between cultures separated by light years.... sigh...
 
Yeh.

The first movie wasn't titled F A M I L I A R, now was it?

No. It was called Star Beast!...... Oh, no. Sorry. It was called ALIEN. Dan was awesome in that movie.

For the international crowd, I did get a kick out of alternate title "The Eighth Passenger".
 
The ship design and the jockey chamber/star map room are clearly not the exact same designs as the one seen in Alien, so one would assume the layout is also not meant to be the same.

This is exactly what I said back when the trailer for Revenge of the Sith first played. "That's clearly not the Blockade Runner itself, it's another ship of the same general class". Ha, silly me, I expected logic from Hollywood. (Only for three seconds or so, of course. Then I thought "oh yes it fraggin' is, even though it couldn't possibly be. Ugly, stupid thing. Oh well, gonna cut my losses and not bother with it".)

Ringed planet in the sky. Cryptic references to Acheron's new "early discovery" history in the online marketing. Crashed alien bioship that clearly hits the ground fairly intact. I'm feeling kind of pessimistic on this one...

Weyland Industries earns patent number 18,364,003 for Method and Apparatus for device able to temporarily restart brain activity of deceased individuals.
August 16, 2071

Oh HO!! Ha, I was wondering how Guy Pearce was going to be in the movie if his character is giving TED talks in the 2020s as a youngish man. Some kind of Cold Lazarus deal...

Did the tone of the scene remind me of Alien or Aliens? Nope. Did it remind me of Avp or Avatar? Yes.

Ditto! Content = Stargate, presentation = Avatar.

Looking through the pic gallery of Phase Pistol's, so much of the alien culture stuff is clearly sub-Giger cheese. Including the Alien from the first movie in the wall/ceiling. Looked like the work of some bad jewellery designer with a license to make naff Alien trinkets, as does the floor of the jockey chamber and the re-vamped (and sacrilegiously empty) jockey chair. If it was Giger himself did it, then that's pretty sad.

Give it a chance. It was always on the cards that we'd get more Star Wars, and that it'd suck. It was looking really unlikely we'd get any new Alien, let alone something with Ridley behind it. Say what you like about him, and I often do, but the man puts nice visuals on the screen. :p

It IS bugging me that EVERYTHING looks off, art-direction-wise. Nice - GREAT even - just off, versus A L I E N. The shoulders of the Jockey-Suit for example...and all the rest of it...it's close, but not the same as the original, and not as good, even disregarding the whole biosuit aspect. It's about a 90% for my money. Sculpting, CGI, whatever it is; it's noticeably not the same deal. The ship is metallic, for example. I call it a bio ship but it really isn't. Everything is mechanical rather than grown, it just has a lot of compound curves and repeated small techy elements that *resemble* the mummified flesh and bone look of the original.

Still vastly more than I ever expected, so I'm more than willing to buy in.

Another thing. If that melting monster-mash guy in the jockey chair room gets into that chair after it rises from the floor - if we see anything other than a proper jock sitting in that chair - I refuse to see the film!! lol....

What do you mean? The jockey is half-present; namely the chair/suit/backpack rising from the floor. The humanoid bit is the tall feller walking towards it, or that's what the cuts imply.
 
Maybe the guy walking toward the jockey chair is trying to stop the jockey from taking off? Maybe the Engineers are in the flying saucer at the beginning of the trailer, and are trying to stop the Jockey's?

I don't know. I just can't wait to see the movie!!!
 
My expectations for this movie are so ridiculously high you'd be likely to see them at Rudy's and say "it was a crying disgrace". Beyond that I have nothing to say except...

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Don't expect anything and you may be pleasantly surprised. I learned that I should not expect anything to be as good as I think or hope it will be a long time ago with Return of the Jedi. The film was so bad to me on so many levels that it I felt completely shattered and let down. I try to remain neutral until I see any film now, so if it is not good I don't get disappointed, but when it is good, it's a great feeling.

Ridley is definitely a completely different film maker now than then, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt and wait until I actually see the film before passing judgement. The fact that he is not doing another rehash of the Alien storyline and is going for something original is enough for me to respect him and wait and see.
 
'zackly. They're taking some risks, in a risk-averse environment. Even if this were doomed to be a failure it'd at least be the ambitious type. :)
 
I'll be waiting for reviews first as always. These days nothing is too cool to fail.
I'm still not thrilled about the ancient astronauts/whatever angle, done to death and made a joke by pathetic so called "documentarys" on TV, and Crystal Skull of course put a stink on it that will never clear for me. I really don't care for use of that plot device anymore, but if they have a new angle that makes it worth it fine.
 
The only thing that can ruin my day is a timeline entry that hints... well, here's an example.

"Weyland Corp. approves plan to relocate dozens of Earth based refineries meant for constructing toxic waste containers to off world planets."
 
the whole timeline isn't loading correctly if you are using chrome. try IE or firefox.

I am using the current version of Firefox. It was a mess yesterday, but working better today. Still glitches though.

Of course, none of this may be canon or directly taken from anything in Damon's script, but simply media marketing fluff written by the people in charge of this marketing campaign. Similar to what was done with the LOST online marketing. Still, someone here is familiar with the background enough to make the effort to connect things.
 
What do you mean? The jockey is half-present; namely the chair/suit/backpack rising from the floor. The humanoid bit is the tall feller walking towards it, or that's what the cuts imply.

We have jockey definition dispute here, do we? Lol...Well, by 'jock' I meant the big bony white thing with the head and arms and chest that has 'grown out of' the chair in the first film. But you're right - it's best to think of the whole thing as the jockey, but this is something Rid no longer wants us to do it seems.

I can't tell you in terms strong enough how I don't want that geezer getting into that jockey-chair. The sight of a normal bloke sitting in that chair would be an appalling thing, sheer iconoclasm. Only things that look like the occupant in the first movie are allowed to be in that chair, and they should be part of that chair. So there.
 
Give it a chance. It was always on the cards that we'd get more Star Wars, and that it'd suck. It was looking really unlikely we'd get any new Alien, let alone something with Ridley behind it. Say what you like about him, and I often do, but the man puts nice visuals on the screen. :p

It IS bugging me that EVERYTHING looks off, art-direction-wise. Nice - GREAT even - just off, versus A L I E N. The shoulders of the Jockey-Suit for example...and all the rest of it...it's close, but not the same as the original, and not as good, even disregarding the whole biosuit aspect. It's about a 90% for my money. Sculpting, CGI, whatever it is; it's noticeably not the same deal. The ship is metallic, for example. I call it a bio ship but it really isn't. Everything is mechanical rather than grown, it just has a lot of compound curves and repeated small techy elements that *resemble* the mummified flesh and bone look of the original.

Still vastly more than I ever expected, so I'm more than willing to buy in.

Heh heh, you feel the same as me basically, except you're a nice man to Sir Ridley, whereas I'm a mean and nasty man to him (yet I've kept me gob shut this time about the sadly non-bio sub-Giger derelict, unlike you!), lol....
 
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Judging by Weyland Industries extreme acceleration of technological progress during the 21st Century, I'm thinking Peter Weyland must actually BE an engineer :angel

If that timeline started in, say, 2050, and spread over 100-150 years, it would be way more credible.
 
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