cayman shen
Master Member
I'm with you--someone make a V2 
Revisiting the most accurate Luke ROTJ 'Hero' lightsaber
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Mara Jade's Father
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RussRep did a V2 run about 1-2 years ago. I now have 3 of the V2s now in my collection. So I'm ready for a Hero. I have the EFx reveal and the MR LE but would like original trilogy add nice fan made version.
My initial interest in the V2 was due to the fact that I had a Luke Return of the Jedi costume. You can't wear a hero because a tri-ring does not hang very well on the hook and the tri-ring is lined up directly with the activation box. Which means the box digs into your leg when wearing causing pain and costume damage. The V2 has a d-ring and it does not line up to the box.
However, over the last couple years, My attention has returned to the hero. The V2 has started to bother me because its appearance is not very well thought out. At first, you look at it an think,old beat up lightsaber with paint missing. But it does not make sense for a jedi to "paint" a lightsaber and then on top of that... in the matter of a short time, have most of that paint peel/chip away. So then you need to consider, What if the paint is not meant original trilogy to be paint, but instead weathering/scoring/whatever... So the places where you see blotchy black, it is not paint but dirty (why so dirty?). Which would mean without the blotchy paint it would be colored more like a stunt, which it colored after the hero.
I'm sure someone here knows more about the sabers and their use in production/filming. I guessing that the V2 was not meant to have the amount of noticeable screen time that it did, or the Hero was not available, or no one thought a bunch of OCD prop fanatics would scour through footage frame by frame over 30 years later.
So in short... I still love my V2s but... Anakin Starkiller, I'm ready for your next run of Heroes.
My initial interest in the V2 was due to the fact that I had a Luke Return of the Jedi costume. You can't wear a hero because a tri-ring does not hang very well on the hook and the tri-ring is lined up directly with the activation box. Which means the box digs into your leg when wearing causing pain and costume damage. The V2 has a d-ring and it does not line up to the box.
However, over the last couple years, My attention has returned to the hero. The V2 has started to bother me because its appearance is not very well thought out. At first, you look at it an think,old beat up lightsaber with paint missing. But it does not make sense for a jedi to "paint" a lightsaber and then on top of that... in the matter of a short time, have most of that paint peel/chip away. So then you need to consider, What if the paint is not meant original trilogy to be paint, but instead weathering/scoring/whatever... So the places where you see blotchy black, it is not paint but dirty (why so dirty?). Which would mean without the blotchy paint it would be colored more like a stunt, which it colored after the hero.
I'm sure someone here knows more about the sabers and their use in production/filming. I guessing that the V2 was not meant to have the amount of noticeable screen time that it did, or the Hero was not available, or no one thought a bunch of OCD prop fanatics would scour through footage frame by frame over 30 years later.
So in short... I still love my V2s but... Anakin Starkiller, I'm ready for your next run of Heroes.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
Here is a pretty good explanation: Elstree Props Return of the Jedi Lightsaber Auction ? Update 3 : The Original Prop Blog ? Jason DeBord's TV and Movie Prop Memorabilia Resource
It seems like new info is always coming out so take the info with a grain of salt since I do not know if it has all the latest data. However I think it will answer your question.
thanks buddy, I'm going to go threw it now, i appreciate it
I guess a more simplified version would be: the hero is the one you probably see everywhere (copper neck, silver body, control box with buttons and lights). The v2 is the black, scuffed version you may see on film and do a double take. You're right, it's different as hell
anyways they Also have different origins. The hero was most likely one of the new metal stunts used on the sail barge
the v2 (and its sister, the 'shared stunt' which is quite obv redecorated to look like the hero, it's the one that that NASA took into space) were both obi wan's stunts from a new hope, painted to match the black paint job of the famous obi saber parts..grenade and whatnot.. That help? Haha there are resin copy's of both
anyways they Also have different origins. The hero was most likely one of the new metal stunts used on the sail barge
the v2 (and its sister, the 'shared stunt' which is quite obv redecorated to look like the hero, it's the one that that NASA took into space) were both obi wan's stunts from a new hope, painted to match the black paint job of the famous obi saber parts..grenade and whatnot.. That help? Haha there are resin copy's of both
Shinobi
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Shinobi
Sr Member
RussRep did a V2 run about 1-2 years ago. I now have 3 of the V2s now in my collection. So I'm ready for a Hero. I have the EFx reveal and the MR LE but would like original trilogy add nice fan made version.
My initial interest in the V2 was due to the fact that I had a Luke Return of the Jedi costume. You can't wear a hero because a tri-ring does not hang very well on the hook and the tri-ring is lined up directly with the activation box. Which means the box digs into your leg when wearing causing pain and costume damage. The V2 has a d-ring and it does not line up to the box.
However, over the last couple years, My attention has returned to the hero. The V2 has started to bother me because its appearance is not very well thought out. At first, you look at it an think,old beat up lightsaber with paint missing. But it does not make sense for a jedi to "paint" a lightsaber and then on top of that... in the matter of a short time, have most of that paint peel/chip away. So then you need to consider, What if the paint is not meant original trilogy to be paint, but instead weathering/scoring/whatever... So the places where you see blotchy black, it is not paint but dirty (why so dirty?). Which would mean without the blotchy paint it would be colored more like a stunt, which it colored after the hero.
I'm sure someone here knows more about the sabers and their use in production/filming. I guessing that the V2 was not meant to have the amount of noticeable screen time that it did, or the Hero was not available, or no one thought a bunch of OCD prop fanatics would scour through footage frame by frame over 30 years later.
So in short... I still love my V2s but... Anakin Starkiller, I'm ready for your next run of Heroes.
honestly MJF - I've been undecided about this for the longest time. I was once the biggest proponent of the V2 and it still holds a special place in my heart because it's the one you seen onscreen the most. But the hero was the first lightsaber I saw in a book and somehow, it has always stuck with me. I go back and forth between an "idealized" saber vs screen-used reproduction but for me, I've just finally decided that the ROTJ hero version is the one I want. And even then, Starkiller's version is accurate to the actual prop (uneven rings, etc) so you could even debate whether that is truly idealized. But it's the one I want
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
I'm okay with ring even or uneven. But I prefer plating, anodizing or true metal type to represent coloring. I'm not an expert on the hero, but if they used paint for any coloring, I would like a more idealized option.
ataru72ita
Sr Member
WOHA that's the best news here since I Joined!!!!
thumbsupcheersI was blaming myself for not having been able to find one of Your fantastic ROTJ sabers! If You ever do it I would be in all the way!!!
Regards,
Alberto!!!
ataru72ita
Sr Member
RussRep did a V2 run about 1-2 years ago. I now have 3 of the V2s now in my collection. So I'm ready for a Hero. I have the EFx reveal and the MR LE but would like original trilogy add nice fan made version.
My initial interest in the V2 was due to the fact that I had a Luke Return of the Jedi costume. You can't wear a hero because a tri-ring does not hang very well on the hook and the tri-ring is lined up directly with the activation box. Which means the box digs into your leg when wearing causing pain and costume damage. The V2 has a d-ring and it does not line up to the box.
However, over the last couple years, My attention has returned to the hero. The V2 has started to bother me because its appearance is not very well thought out. At first, you look at it an think,old beat up lightsaber with paint missing. But it does not make sense for a jedi to "paint" a lightsaber and then on top of that... in the matter of a short time, have most of that paint peel/chip away. So then you need to consider, What if the paint is not meant original trilogy to be paint, but instead weathering/scoring/whatever... So the places where you see blotchy black, it is not paint but dirty (why so dirty?). Which would mean without the blotchy paint it would be colored more like a stunt, which it colored after the hero.
I'm sure someone here knows more about the sabers and their use in production/filming. I guessing that the V2 was not meant to have the amount of noticeable screen time that it did, or the Hero was not available, or no one thought a bunch of OCD prop fanatics would scour through footage frame by frame over 30 years later.
So in short... I still love my V2s but... Anakin Starkiller, I'm ready for your next run of Heroes.
Dude, If You ever were going for letting one of Your V2s go, I would be superglad to help leaving You free of thet burden!!
Hit me with a pm in that case!
Regards,
Alberto
Ok. Twist my arm why don't you. Haha. Well I guess we're all getting the EP VII ich and interest in SW is on the rise again.
I'll talk to my shop and get a price for the run. I guess I'll have to become a premium member too now.
I'll talk to my shop and get a price for the run. I guess I'll have to become a premium member too now.
Great pic. That's a Janice saber me thinks, very RPF old school
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
The D-ring, rails, and gold neck, yep looks like a Janice to me. Very affordable and well made. started selling them around 1999/2000 if remember correctly.
I had one, sold it for and SD, then sold the SD for the MR because basically they were basically the same.
This will be awesome.
I'm partial to the V2... But hero is good as well (It's idealized though, correct? original was a cast?)
How does that work though, are the base bodies the same? Then it comes to added bits, paint style, Graflex clamp or the other control box?
My knowledge of Luke ROTJ is rusty.
I'm partial to the V2... But hero is good as well (It's idealized though, correct? original was a cast?)
How does that work though, are the base bodies the same? Then it comes to added bits, paint style, Graflex clamp or the other control box?
My knowledge of Luke ROTJ is rusty.
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