Revell's Resistance X-Wing, with some mods..

FYI, I'm a member of www.zealot.com , and there I am known as "Revell-Fan" (mainly because I have grown up with their kits and because they were the first to release BSG and Buck Rogers model kits). ;)
 
Galactican,
You're very welcome! I was a Monogram / Revell fan growing up too. I'll never forget when my older cousin finished his 1/32 scale Spitfire. I was in so in love with that model, I never forgot it, so for birthdays and Christmas, those were always on my list! It's amazing how they still hold up today, and with a bit of TLC they can be fantastic! And I still think the original Monogram Viper is still a better looking kit than the Moebius kit. Now if they would only re-release that buck Roger's Starfighter!!!!
Reelo - Have you seen the Spitfire Mk 1 that came out last year? It's just beautiful, and it was released for $30...If that was another company, it would have been at least three times as much.
I found this last night , and there are some pics of the next new X-Wing, and if you look closely, I think the images might be of another mock-up / doctored picture. It looks good, but there's something about it that makes me think this isn't the actual model...I bet it's going to look better in person too! Lets hope....
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234988338-star-wars-the-force-awakens/
 
mcusanelli said:
Reelo - Have you seen the Spitfire Mk 1 that came out last year? It's just beautiful, and it was released for $30...If that was another company, it would have been at least three times as much.
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Yes, haven't bought it though. I'm a Luftwaffe (specifically Bf 109) nut.
But Revell's recent 109G-6 and G-10 in 1:32 are awesome kits. Cheap, and very very detailed. The only negative points would be the seat-harness moulded onto the seat, and the gear-legs which are split in 2. Thankfully, seats can be sanded and legs can be replaced for metal ones (Eduard has them in bronze and they are gorgeous)
The biggest critique from me would be that they split the cowling in a way where seams are a mere 1-2mm away from natural panel lines, which is totally stupid. Makes for complicated filling, sanding and rescribing. Other than that, Revell's recent offerings are great.
 
Just to throw out that my personal experience with Revell has been quite variable (I think I am still showing the 'scars' from opening their 1/48 F-14 kit which obviously wasn't what was depicted on the box top photo - which was actually I suspect a Tamiya 1/32 scale kit.) Then once Monogram (at the time not yet composited with Revell) issued their F-14 kit, it was obvious the two entities were completely different in their 'mindset'. Tragically, we mostly lost that 'Monogram flavor' though again the Revelogram Co, can still produce excellent model kits as well as some real stinkers (such as the beautifully produced but weirdly inaccurate F/A-18E/F SuperHornet kit...) Given their track record, it is truly disappointing that Revellogram cannot produce nice, accurate and affordable models of the SW vehicles -certainly the technical skills are there! Why this is, I cannot fathom since as a systems guy, I would have thought such silliness would have been rooted out of their process a long time ago.

But then, perhaps 'wham-bam' quick, cheap & dirty for max bottom line profit is the intention. I suspect the cost of the Disney license is such that they need a quick return to keep the holding company happy. The term 'squeeze the market' comes to mind...
Sigh.
R/ Robert
 
... and now they are reissuing the old Star Wars easy Kit pocket-kits without prepainting as level 3 kits... :facepalm

Browsing through their products, I really wonder what is the benefit from those box-scales today? Even a kid must be disappointed when the figures from the models of one company don't fit together in scale.

Revell's policy is just against any real modeler. Sad that they have the absolute monopoly here in Germany's stores - wish there was at least some competition.
 
Again, a few thoughts from my old days in house at the toy company....They started out, the two owners, putting together toy bow and arrow sets on a ping pong table in the basement, and over 30 years, they became a 15-20 million dollar company. They knew their product, and what the customers wanted. Successful, right? Then their kids came into the picture, and of course, arrogantly, they thought they knew better. They didn't. In 5 years, they went chapter 11, and a few months later , they were out of business. They knew nothing about the business and ruined everything. I think the same thing goes on at Revell. The owners have changed many times, and the people in charge of new product development probably don't even know that adult modelers are collecting and building sci-fi kits, and think that SW is purely a kid thing, so why should they put the effort into a kit for a 'kid' (I'm a 52 year old kid!) that they put into an Me-109 or a Spitfire, that not too many kids would buy nowadays anyway. I've seen this in action, and was told, 'Stop worrying, it's good enough, nobody cares'. If they only knew!
Having said all this, I still love Revell's stuff, and personally, I'd like to see lots of builds of their SW stuff, let's see what some good modeling can do to transform these fun kits into beautiful models! If no one objects, my next model posting is going to be another Revell Star Wars kit, hopefully you'll like what I did!
 
mcusanelli said:
And I still think the original Monogram Viper is still a better looking kit than the Moebius kit. Now if they would only re-release that buck Roger's Starfighter!!!!
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The Y-piece at the rear of the Revellogram Viper is much closer to the original studio model than the Moebius whereas the Moebius features the better thrusters. The Revellogram has raised panel lines and the Moebius' nose is too long. So it is even. ;) Well, there will be a new model soon which hopefully combines the best of both worlds..! (You know what I mean! ;) )

Speaking of Buck models, a few days ago I made a major coup on e**y. Not the starfighter but the Marauder - sealed box in mint condition for about 40 bucks! Still waiting for it to arrive. :)

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thorst said:
... and now they are reissuing the old Star Wars easy Kit pocket-kits without prepainting as level 3 kits... :facepalm
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Is that confirmed?
 
thorst said:
Browsing through their products, I really wonder what is the benefit from those box-scales today? Even a kid must be disappointed when the figures from the models of one company don't fit together in scale.
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It's purely to save packaging cost. They have predefined packaging sizes they can fit the models into instead of having to now get a new box size made. Although I'd really rather they scale the model up or down to the nearest established scale/box size.

The "pocket kits" though are harder to do that with, although by chance, some pocket kits wind up matching the scale of some of the easy kits

Still box scale is my only real complaint against Revell
 
Box scale is a major complaint, but I would add insufficient research, inaccuracy, huge panel lines, bad detail because of minimizing parts count and missing love, compromises because of "play"-features such as moving parts, worse-than-state-of-the-art fit, relatively high price for what you get (compared to Bandai)...

I made much too long the mistake to buy their kits because they are not too bad, but its not fun to look at them and having to make compromises as for how much you want to correct them because if you did everything, you end up with a scratch build. That's not how I want to spend my time and money for a hobby, if I choose to buy a kit.

Just my opinion.
 
I agree about box scale too, it's like they went backwards in their thinking to the 1950's when no one seemed to care about scale. It's a problem if you want to use figures with your models. As a figure guy, it's the first thing I look at when I get a kit. With only a couple of exceptions, the figures Revell included in the SW kits are terrible, and usually undersized. I have several of the Clone Wars Jedi Starfighters, one of my favorite ships, it is a great little kit, about 1/40 scale. The pilot, Ahsoka, looked, I swear, like it was made out of bubble gum. Tossed it out. Converted / sculpted my own pilot. Yet, the cockpit is beautiful, and the canopy is super clear. Same thing with the movie Jedi Starfighter, excellent model, great cockpit detail, and another lame figure. At least it was close to scale. Now, I sculpt figures for a living so it's no problem for me to come up with a pilot, but I'd be pissed if I couldn't and wanted to have a pilot in an in-flight model. For a kid, they'd be fine, for an adult, not so much. And yet, the ARC 170 kit has 3 very acceptable clone pilots, great clear parts...And no cockpit detail whatsoever, save for three basic seats. Very dopey. I guess for me,after a life time of modeling,and remembering all the years when no one was making these kits, I'm happy to have them, they're relatively inexpensive - Unlike Finemolds - and I don't mind adding and fiddling with 'basic' and bringing it up to a higher standard. For me, it's fun and challenging. Maybe I am crazy after all!
 
So if I understand the Revell site correctly, they are listing the Level 1 X-wings as 1/78 scale and the Level 2 x-wings as 1/50.

Can anyone confirm if the level 1 is indeed close to 1/72? I could be wrong, but it looked much bigger than 1/78

As far as those listed scales, I guess they are close enough to 1/72 and 1/48, but why the hell couldn't they just tweak them a bit to be 1/48 and 1/72. (although to be fair Fine Molds models are listed as 1/72 and 1/48 but very few if any are truly those listed scales. The 1/48 tie for example is closer to 1/65 and the 1/72 versions are too small as well.)

It looks like the Level 1 tie is 1:51 and the Level 2 is 1:35

If they are marketing these as toy friendly for kids, wouldn't you try to at least keep the level 1 kits in scale with each other even if you don't necessarily stick to an established scale.
 
The Level 1 TIE and the Level 2 X-Wing could be a nice couple since both are about 1/50 which is fairly close to 1:48. ;)
 
I read somewhere that the designer said it is 1/59 scale. I don't know for sure, but the pilot I converted was a supposed 1/48 Airfix dude, and he was WAY too small for 1/48. When I look at him compared to the pics of JJAbrams, and the pilot standing next to the full size X-Wing, he seems to me to match up nicely. I guess he's about 1/55 - 1/60 scale , so he works. If someone had the dimensions of the full size ship, we could probably figure it out for certain. It's absolutely NOT 1/78 scale, but I don't know about the TIE, as I passed on it for now. Other pilot figures that would work size-wise are the pilots from the old Monogram Mosquito bomber, very small for their stated scale, and the figures from the Aurora Flying Sub, or the re-relesed Monogram/Revell issues. The pilot from their old P-47 Thunderbolt would work too.
I already have a pilot underway for the upcoming level 2 kit....Can't wait!
 
Definitely larger than 1/72, like mcusanelli noted, probably close to 1/55.

I think the same probably goes for the tie.

Here's the new x-wing between a 1/48 fine molds and 1/72 bandai. The tie photo is a fine molds 1/48 tie wing compared to the revell.

Your x-wing was an inspiration btw, mcusanelli - nice work.

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Hmmm, maybe the wesite has things reversed and the level 2 kits will be 1/78 while the level 1's are 1/50?

Then again, they list there large easy kit tie as 1/65, but the figure inside is clearly larger than 1/48 and closer to 1/40 range

I guess that's why they stick with box scale, they don't have to worry about figuring out what scale fictional objects are:lol:facepalm
 
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