Return of the Jedi - Back in Theaters

I always assumed that Leia was indeed referring to her (and Luke's) biological mother who did not die immediately after their births until it was retconned for the prequels. As a story beat, the scene would not have any emotional weight for Luke to ask about her remembering her mother if the mother she is referring to is Bail's wife.
Great explaination...wish i could communicate better...lol. How about this?

Luke knew He was adopted. He said "Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru" . In the original Star Wars it clearly implies Owen and Beru explained that to him or atleast he was old enough to know better when he came under their caring. If he was a baby when that happened like the Prequels were written, how did he know he was adopted? They would be like his actual parents unless like Laspector said, they told him...but told him what? You're adopted,Luke...your parents died. How? Based on ROTJ he clearly doesn't remember his mother so that checks but he doesn't know about his father either until Obi-wan tells him he was murdered. Obviously, Owen and Beru are holding back and trying to protect him because they know the truth. But when Luke says in ROTJ, "i have no memories of my mother" he already knew he was separated from his "father" at birth based on his conversation with force ghost OBI. Knowing Leia is now his sister and that he and his sister were separated from their father at birth, the only connection that Luke tries to piece together is their mother...thus the question. "Do you remember your mother? your real mother?" She does, obviously, a little bit. She reveals to him, that her mother died when she was young, remebers her beauty and kindness. Then Luke becomes self aware and (in my opinion) puts all the pieces together of what Obi-wan told him..They were sheilded from the whole truth and understands the threat the Emperor really is. Leia asks, what's troubling you? Lukes response, "Vader's here". I just had a thought:

The question by Luke "do you remember your mother, your real mother?" could just be him processing everything and it slipped knowing she is his twin and that he is adopted . Even so, Leia (in my opinion) was talking about her and Luke's biological mother only. Ron, this is why just sticking with the OT is the only way anything makes sense...lol. Too much info from all the other stuff that came afterwards has only clouded my mind and not clarified anything. Probably the only reason why that line stuck out to me after 40years was because of the Prequels.
 
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I hate to use, “…because The Force!” explanation, but after the prequels, I always took Leia’s response to the question to mean that she had memories of her mother through a Force connection. Certainly, she was too young to actually remember Padme, but perhaps her memories were through a Force connection or recollection of some sort…?

This made more sense to me after seeing Leia train as a Jedi in the sequels, further emphasizing her potential Force abilities.

Sean
 
Anyways...after watching ROTJ in the theater this past weekend and everyone clapping i wanted to stand up and say, "Ladies and Gentleman...let's have a encore applause for the Real Luke Skywalker and the Real Star Wars" but i didn't because i realized that, that's what was actually happening anyway. (not trying to purposefully anger fans of the other trilogies) It was just a beautiful moment to witness. I haven't heard that much applause in a theater ever and it's a movie everyone has seen a billion times after 40 years!
 
#5 in US box office, not bad for a 40 year old movie


J
Saw that and was going to post it....but you beat me.
$4.69 million in 3 days (I believe it was) and only on 475 screens for a 40 year old movie....Not bad.
Not sure how long they plan to keep it in theater though.
Hopefully a few weeks to give people time, juat incase.
Imagine if they had promoted it.
 
I know what saber I'm taking with me...

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That looks like Luke Skywalker AS V2 Gen1 ?
You got it!

You’re right buddy gen1, second run with uneven rings
Both of you have a ridiculous eye for these things, I knew you'd swoop in and confirm before I could.

I love this saber, it was before the boot studs were public knowledge so my mystery chunk is just a threaded rectangular chunk I used a checkering file on. I have a new AS kit I need to build, but that'll have to wait for now.

Anyways, tickets for the 4th didn't open up so I'm going tomorrow evening. Can't wait!
 
You got it!


Both of you have a ridiculous eye for these things, I knew you'd swoop in and confirm before I could.

I love this saber, it was before the boot studs were public knowledge so my mystery chunk is just a threaded rectangular chunk I used a checkering file on. I have a new AS kit I need to build, but that'll have to wait for now.

Anyways, tickets for the 4th didn't open up so I'm going tomorrow evening. Can't wait!
yes, sometimes i scare myself that i know these things...lol, have a blast!!
 
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You got it!


Both of you have a ridiculous eye for these things, I knew you'd swoop in and confirm before I could.

I love this saber, it was before the boot studs were public knowledge so my mystery chunk is just a threaded rectangular chunk I used a checkering file on. I have a new AS kit I need to build, but that'll have to wait for now.

Anyways, tickets for the 4th didn't open up so I'm going tomorrow evening. Can't wait!
That’s a vintage starkiller right there, never give it up. The good ol days were the 1/4 square bolt was the closest thing we had…

Then it let slip the chunk had knurling and we broke out our files lol
 
I observed a few minor, "invisible" fixes here and there, but I don't know when they were implemented... I don't know if anything was done specifically for this release.

The Jabba subtitles were burned-in, of course, in a font close but not quite exact to original. On D+ they just force the ugly CC titles.

One new-to-me fix was the curtain being opened behind Han and Leia (revealing more palace minions) after they're caught. No real curtain was originally in the shot, it's just a black blob rotoscoped over three or four frames. It's neater now. Same goes for Lando "walking into shadow" after talking with Han in the hangar. The shadow was just a dissolve to an animated black blob in his shape, but now it's more convincing.

The skiff our guys are on, which used to be completely stationary when hovering over Sarlaac (because it was welded to an I-beam!) now has a little motion in at least two such shots.

I only realized after the fact that the Emperor's "slugs" are seamlessly fixed.
One thing I noticed that would be very easily fixed but wasn't: a couple of shots of Vader talking with Jerjerrod are flopped, because they were filmed with him facing the wrong way. Since a flop is an optical, in the old days that meant generational loss, and they still look fuzzy/grainy compared with surrounding footage. Well, LFL still has all the original elements for such things, so I'm surprised they didn't rescan the negative for those shots and flop them digitally.

Likewise a couple shots of Luke after defeating Vader. They apparently didn't shoot that with VistaVision (like most bluescreen shots), because it's always looked really rough (they had to put stars in the window behind him). Still hasn't been redone.
 
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Went to see it on Friday. Good to see it on the big screen again. Even some of the parts that have grown intolerable over the years seemed good again. But maybe after spending $40 for ticket, popcorn and soda for a movie I could watch at home for free, I guess maybe it had better be good (know what I mean, Verne?). Still toying with the idea of pouring more money down the hole to see it on Star Wars Day. Or maybe I'll just go see GOTG.
 
Went to see it on Friday. Good to see it on the big screen again. Even some of the parts that have grown intolerable over the years seemed good again. But maybe after spending $40 for ticket, popcorn and soda for a movie I could watch at home for free, I guess maybe it had better be good (know what I mean, Verne?). Still toying with the idea of pouring more money down the hole to see it on Star Wars Day. Or maybe I'll just go see GOTG.

…STAR WARS Day is May 25th, thanks.
 
I’m sick as a dog right now… I have 9:15 showin.. think I’m staying home
Haven't seen you on here in a while, probably just a different area, and then you get here and are sick.
Now we're all going to get sick....
Anyways, hope you feel better soon.
 
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