Retrofiting a FX X-Wing, into a studio scale type peice

It seems that yes, the FX x-wing was cast from or very closely modelled on the ICONS x-wing.

The above pics are of the FX xwing, although the last set of pics show it with a custom paint job.

I believe an FX tie fighter was released with larger scale wings, also closer to studio scale and much better than the standard toy Tie.
 
They did improve the TIE bit by bit...first by releasing an Interceptor with a resculpted pod rear, giving it its engine rather than the old Kenner battery compartment.

Then, as a TIE proper, they gave it properly scaled wings in a subsequent release.

But there was never an FX Tie. No sounds or lights.
 
I stand corrected - as Treadwell notes, it's not an FX TIE - but this is the larger wing version I referred to:

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Not wanting to drag this thread too far off topic, but I'd love to see some comparison shots with the original release TIE and a studio scale, for comparison. I'm not sure how undersized the large wing version actually is? I wonder if it is to scale with the FX xwing?
 
We had a thread goin on this a while back. I bought this tie and repainted it and it looks great. It is in scale with the F/X and they look great together.
 
I don't remember who had the pics in that old thread...maybe they'll chime in.

Verdict was that the toy is still a little smaller than studio scale. But now that it's proportioned correctly it looks great.
 
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Great, I look forward to seeing the pics. :)

I'm glad to hear that the FX x-wing and the TIE are in scale - I think I'll have to pick up one of the larger wing version TIE's after hearing that.
 
OK, here we go. Here is the Kenner Y-Wing (lame, I know, but passable), the new large wing TIE with a light grey paint job, and the F/X X-Wing. I still need to make a stand for the TIE. They are all in approximate same scale based on the size of the figures, though we all know the Y-Wing is too small and narrow and too fat ;).

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The TIE close up...

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If you don't want to spend a lot of dough, these make nice almost studio scale display models.
 
That TIE looks great.

Was it difficult to repaint? I imagine its one hell of a masking job - but the results look fantastic.
 
I just came back from my cousins, where his lil nephew has one of these X wing laying on the floor, i was amazed on how better the fuselage looks to the salzo, i may have this as a future "to do" as i have lots of saturn V parts laying round and im sure i have the phantom engines and other odds and bits. love to paint one up to go alongside my salzo.
 
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That TIE looks great.

Was it difficult to repaint? I imagine its one hell of a masking job - but the results look fantastic.
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A little but not too bad. I could have done a lot more, but after masking the panels for 2 hours, I was pooped. I basically just taped it all up and shot it with light grey spray paint and called it a day.
 
I just got one of these today... Looks deceptively simple to turn into a nice display piece... What am I missing...?

Well... I'll start by re-reading this thread.
 
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I just got one of these today... Looks deceptively simple to turn into a nice display piece... What am I missing...?

Well... I'll start by re-reading this thread.
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Hmmm . . . as soon as my wife gets back from her conference in San Diego and I get my camera back, I'll take some MORE shots of the Maxi, CC, mod'ed FX and a STOCK FX (I just landed one, no wings and REEKS of a smoking home, but hey, its FREE.) all together, and remove the above pics. That'll REALLY show you the major differences between them, and just how much I've already modded the one FX.

Ironically, I just dusted off and started back up on the mod FX this week to finally finish it off and work out some paint test colors and techniques. I'm getting a real hankering to finish off the last three letters of the alphabet rebel fleet craft, and I realy do not want to mess up my "good" kits by fracking up the paint and weathering, so the mod FX is my "warm up".

Now if only I had a Z-95, I'd be all set . . .

Anyone know if Zarkus us planning on re-releasing his anytime soon?



Ryan
 
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I realy do not want to mess up my "good" kits by fracking up the paint and weathering, so the mod FX is my "warm up".

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That's basically my plan too...

I have a CC kit, plus a maxi-Brute fuselage, and ultimately will build my "Ultiamte X". On the toy, I'm not going to go balls out on on mods -- just a few basic things like engines and guns, fill in the screw holes and landing gear bays, maybe redo the R2 strip. But the main thing I want to do is use it as a canvas for a re-paint...

I've always felt that the paint job is what first sells a display, physical details to be noted secondarily (at least that's my opinion). And even an unmodified FX toy X with a great paint job would look considerably closer to the original models.

I also have aspirations of creating the entire "Red" wing of fighters (Red 1 through Red 5), and doing so with CC/Salzo kits would be cost prohibitive...
 
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Just realized the nose on this thing is a firm rubber material. Damn lawyers.
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Yep, and its undersized and has a cut-out for the front landing gear too. ALL a big part of the reason why I did a very simple ram cast of my maxi nose cone, which helped things along nicely. I did have to hack off the underlying plastic to make this work, but it wasn't really a concern for me since I never did plan on trying to modify that vinyl PITA nose cone.

FWIW, this was my pre-resin and silicone days, and I did it with nothing more than readily available items, like some saran wrap, vasaline, bondo and plaster of paris. Pretty simple to do, just takes some time and creativity, and it'll give you a heck of an appreciation for the "old school" days we all take for granted, pre that modern miracle of 2 part resin and quality silicone in every garage makers hands . . . back when even the PROS had few materials to work with other than expanding foam urethane resin and BONDO.

So, it went something like this:

Take the maxi nose, cover with vasaline lightly. Take a line about 1/2 down the side and make "pocket" with saran wrap. Pour 1/2 plaster of paris, making first half of mold, and be sure to give yourself some kind of index marks fro the 2nd mold half to "key" into. When dry, recoat maxi nose with vasaline, and remove saran pocket, and make new pocket covering plaster of paris from bottom mold half. I did this by demolding the maxi nose, putting saran wrap in the pocket left behind, and then putting maxi nose back in. Pour 2nd half of mold, and then seperate wrap and mold parts. Coat inside of mold with some gloss paint, and then when dry add a thin coat of vasaline. Mix up some bondo, and start craming it in from the body area hole with a pencil sized dowel. When you get it full and tamped down well, and you have to work FAST, let set and then pull apart the molds. If you catch the bondo before it sets fully you should have a few good minutes of when its still soft but doesn't deform, makes any bulk cleanup a cinch with a knife. Once it hardens fully, bust out the sanding stick and some spot putty, and you've got a passible maxi nose copy, on the cheap $ wise, but of course not labor wise.


Makes sense I hope . . . I still have 1/2 my "mold" laying around, kept it for sentimental reasons and to remind myself what I went through (makes a great paperweight too, keeps those ref pics from floating around.), and what the old school guys used to have to do to replicate a simple part, and to keep me appreciating the tools and materials we take for granted today. I'll take a shot of it with the rest when the camera gets back . . .


Hope that helps, and since I think you said you have a maxi to use as a base I though you'd find it an interesting possiblity for you . . .
Hey, and shoot me a PM, I may have some pieces to help you along toward getting a nicer build . . .


Ryan
 
PM sent.

Quick question -- some say the Maxi nose cone (which, yes -- I do have) is too large even for the Maxi fuselage itself. Though I disagree with this, is it not too big for the (unmodified) FX fuselage?
 
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