Re: Not Quite as Screen-Used as I Originally Thought Vader Costume

[bubba fett]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

The one I posted is from ANH - it's from the set, not a promo shot. Not sure if that's the shot you were referring to though Gino.

Anyway, carry on - fun thread.

 

[GINO]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

Nope, I was referring to the suit in Carson's pics (not the Chronicles shoot).

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[star-art]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

The call-outs were meant to describe the "style" of each piece, in terms of what film it represented, not meaning to infer it was actually a screen-used piece. The leather undersuit was certainly in the ANH style, while most of the other parts were fashioned as seen in later films. I found the belt to be particularly interesting.

I told CD I wasn't an expert by any means, and I certainly wouldn't know screen-used from replica or promo like many of you. Still, I was *thrilled* to see these images. We can never have too much reference on our favorite subjects. . .

Charles

 

[defstartrooper]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

Oh surprise suprise the words screen used and Vader are used and Gino is shouting " It's not really "
Who would have seen that coming :rolleyes
If Dave Prowse himself were to time travel from 1977 to today wearing the original suit and smack Gino upside the head with his saber hilt Gino would say something was wrong with the costume he was wearing.


Thanks for sharing the pics Carson

 

[Tim Allen]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

Actually, that suit pictured is not the ANH leather undersuit either.

There were lots of leather undersuits made for promotional purposes.
In fact, some of the promo items during the ESB era came back to LFL and were unintentionally mixed in with the screen used pieces and ended up being used in parts of ROTJ.

Promo vs. screen used vader items still remain mixed up in the archives to this day.


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So does that mean it is possable that it could of been mixed up the other way around as well? The screen used stuff was mixed in with the promo things and sent out for promotional events, and this COULD be a screen used item??? Just food for thought

 

[Clutch]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

Thanks for sharing those! Very cool!

 

[boushhfan]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

Interesting photos, thank you for sharing them with us

Can I give you a seamstresses point of view? I am a third generation seamstress, so am aware of how the machines used in the 70's measured quilting to keep it even.

I have looked at making a vader suit, and have looked at many reference pictures provided by many here and on other prop websites.

Looking at this leather suit, the quilting on the legs appear to be different than shots of reference photos I have. It also appears to be very tight around the knees for someone who looks to be a lot slighter than David Prowse.

The quilting on the arms is very wide. Difficult from the shots to see the vest accurately, but once again don't seem to match.

In my honest opinion it doesn't look like the screen used suit or the one worn by the Don Post guy who did the promotional work after Star Wars was released.

My apologies for my opinion, I certainly don't want to seem to be confrontational, but those things were glaringly obvious to me, occupational hazard I suppose :$

Kind regards,

Boushh Fan

 

[runnriottt]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

If Dave Prowse himself were to time travel from 1977 to today wearing the original suit and smack Gino upside the head with his saber hilt Gino would say something was wrong with the costume he was wearing.


Thanks for sharing the pics Carson

lollol:lol

I spit my beer...

Popcorn is done, Any one want some!

Great pics and cool on you for posting them... You held film history... Awesome!

 

[RoCKo]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

can we please stay on topic??? just this time???

THANKS FOR SHARING THOSE AMAZING SHOTS! thumbsuphttp://therpf.com/member.php?u=4475

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

Cool pictures. Thanks for showing them. :thumbsup

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

Oh surprise suprise the words screen used and Vader are used and Gino is shouting " It's not really "
Who would have seen that coming :rolleyes
If Dave Prowse himself were to time travel from 1977 to today wearing the original suit and smack Gino upside the head with his saber hilt Gino would say something was wrong with the costume he was wearing.


Thanks for sharing the pics Carson

You mean the same David Prowse who said the helmet was all black, right?

 

[vaderdarth]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

I have an idea......let's just stop making this thread about Gino's opinions and just enjoy the new photos shared by Carson. That's what this is really all about and I for one love seeing any previously un-shared information concerning the ANH Vader costume. This is great stuff folks.

Dave

 

[darthvaderv]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

I agree lets enjoy what is being shared as there is no debate anyway as Gino happens to be right on this matter.

 

[Onigiri]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

OK heres my question. Ive asked Gino and others about this so its germaine to this thread. In those pics the shoulderbells are two tone (like my personal armor). People keep refering to that as teh ESB/ROTJ color scheme but whenI asked I was told that teh bells in ESB/ROTJ are all black and only teh hand painted bells in ANH were two tone.
Here we have a set of shoulder armor with a paint finish more consistent with teh LATER movies but with a two tone shoulder bell set up and being referred to as ESB/ROTJ.
Now my head hurts and I think that 501st and everyone else aside Im not going to repaint them black....grrrr.....
So what IS the scoop....\

 

[darthvaderv]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

OK heres my question. Ive asked Gino and others about this so its germaine to this thread. In those pics the shoulderbells are two tone (like my personal armor). People keep refering to that as teh ESB/ROTJ color scheme but whenI asked I was told that teh bells in ESB/ROTJ are all black and only teh hand painted bells in ANH were two tone.
Here we have a set of shoulder armor with a paint finish more consistent with teh LATER movies but with a two tone shoulder bell set up and being referred to as ESB/ROTJ.
Now my head hurts and I think that 501st and everyone else aside Im not going to repaint them black....grrrr.....
So what IS the scoop....\

There were some unusual alternatives seen on the odd scene or promo shoot but for consistantcy this is as follows for the bells. Bare in mind many ANH reference shows the bells for ANH to be in fact gunmetal, no black... however.

ANH - 2 Tone

ESB - Black

ROTJ - Black

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

I have an idea......let's just stop making this thread about Gino's opinions and just enjoy the new photos shared by Carson. That's what this is really all about and I for one love seeing any previously un-shared information concerning the ANH Vader costume. This is great stuff folks.

Dave

I agree. Hell, Carson even says "Mostly screen-used". Some of his friend's labeling is a bit off, from just a cursory glance. Aside from the shoulder bells and the way he draped the inner stunt robe over the chest armor, I don't see much that is ANH.

 

[vaderdarth]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

That suit is all over the place as far as origin goes. I would hesitate to say that any of the pieces are proven screen used parts, but regardless it's an interesting ensemble. Lots of tour and promotional parts were made........much moreso than screen suits in their actual number. The probability that it's more tour/promotional is quite a bit higher just from the numbers alone. We've all seen the tour Vader costumes in photographs from different exhibits and if LFL can't even get their own displays right, you can't expect them to get this suit not currently in use at the time of pics correct.

Still it's cool as heck to see these parts as many of them were "sourced off screen items" whether original or cast from original is anyone's guess.

Dave

 

[Onigiri]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

OK, because the call out in that pic is ESB/ROTJ shoulders but they arent black, they are two tone like ANH but have a nicer finish like in ESB ROTJ.
So, that means they are too nice for ANH and the wrong colors for ESB/ ROTJ apparently (?)

There were some unusual alternatives seen on the odd scene or promo shoot but for consistantcy this is as follows for the bells. Bare in mind many ANH reference shows the bells for ANH to be in fact gunmetal, no black... however.

ANH - 2 Tone

ESB - Black

ROTJ - Black

 

[DB73]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

The first helmet and armour prowse ever wore was all black....it was painted shortly after and the high gloss was soaped down once they took into account all the lighting and reflection issues.

So perhaps to him the origional was all black

 

[ob1al]

Re: Mostly Screen-Used Vader Costume

The pic isn't clear enough to see how well the shoulder bells are finished, but they are certainly ANH in color scheme, not ESB/ROTJ, so the pic is incorrectly labelled.