Predator Minigun setup

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by Sidewinder, Jun 9, 2006.

  1. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

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    Hi guys,

    Convention next weekend has finally pushed me into sorting out my Minigun setup.

    Built a replica XM23 ammo box out of foamboard skinned with aluminium:
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    Got an Alice backpack frame:
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    Converting my Toytec parts' upper and lowercradle (U shape is for M60 grip under barrels):
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    Got an airsoft M60 coming for the bottom grip and will make the lower cradle then.

    Unfortunately I can't get any chute thus far, so it'll be just the linked ammo swingin free.

    SAS
     
  2. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

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    Upper and lower cradles complete:

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    SAS
     
  3. IndustrialSizeEd

    IndustrialSizeEd New Member

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    Looks great.
     
  4. neosporing

    neosporing Sr Member

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    Looks fantastic. This is going to look cool. Are you gutting the rifle or will is still shoot .2 .25 bb's?
     
  5. Sidewinder

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    It's a display model only i'm afraid, no shooting internals - barrels are motorised though. :)

    SAS
     
  6. eltee

    eltee Sr Member

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    The customized cradle assemblies look great. Looking forward to pics of the completed minigun.
     
  7. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

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    Here it is:

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    SAS
     
  8. RedTwoX

    RedTwoX Sr Member

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    :eek That is simply AWESOME. That thing doesn't need to shoot... it'll scare people to death. Fantastic job :thumbsup




    Is anyone else ammused by the juxtaposition with Sting? :lol
     
  9. RacerX45

    RacerX45 Well-Known Member

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    "Time to let 'ol 'painless' out of the bag"

    That looks fantastic.

    Randy
     
  10. terryr

    terryr Sr Member

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    Walk into a convention wearing that and swat will kill you.
     
  11. turok96

    turok96 Well-Known Member

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    Dude.. that is a sweet mini gun, nice job. :)
     
  12. Exodus

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    Wow, that looks amazingly realistic. Great work, but I'm sure you know that.
     
  13. Soundwave

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    That looks freakin' awesome man...what a first rate job. Amazing work....in fact amazing is an understatement.
     
  14. OldKen

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    :eek

    no words.

    :confused
     
  15. JunkSabers1138

    JunkSabers1138 Sr Member

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    How'd you get the parts made? I like the Predator minigun setup WAAAAAY better than the typical minigun handgrip seen in T2 and others (nothing against it, I just like Predator's a LOT more). Toytec isn't my favorite airsoft mini as there has been some bad hype over clogged barrels and such and I would personally choose PPP's first M-134 body with all the capabilities on the M-134 A2 that they built, as well as have it be able to shoot. But you made this thing into something AWESOME. A few inaccuracies here and there... but you did better than I could ever do. Great work man.

    P.S.-- What were all the parts that were used to make the real prop in the movie?
     
  16. JunkSabers1138

    JunkSabers1138 Sr Member

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    BUMP

    Come on everyone. Don't let this project fade away. Honestly there are too few Predator minigun configurations in the world and they need to be given the attention they deserve. After all it was Predator's Ol' Painless that started the hand held minigun idea in the first place.
     
  17. eltee

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    <div class='quotetop'>(JunkSabers1138 @ Jul 7 2006, 01:19 PM) [snapback]1276167[/snapback]</div>

    Sidewinder's minigun turned out pretty fantastic, didn't it? I built mine a couple years ago. Here is some information. I hope I am not hijacking Sidewinder's thread.

    The same "shooter" M134 was used in both Predator and T2. They cutoff (literally) the upper cradle assembly for T2 and the cutoff marks show. Here is a photo of the T2 gun and you can see the remnants of the Predator cradle. I've marked some of the changes made from Predator to T2 configuration.

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    On my Predator minigun build, I had some original parts given to me by one of the prop gunmakers who worked the movie. Another propmaker provided me with a key part as well. They were modified or recreated to fit the replica (Toytec) minigun. I recast the upper handle I received in solid aluminum and machined it to fit, then it was welded to the "Y" assembly with pistol grip as seen here.

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    I have an original lower cradle. I had it recreated in solid aluminum stock to fit my M134. As on the real one, I attached a front grip from a real M60 machinegun.

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    Other mods were made to fit a real aluminum feed chute. I used the correct (movie accurate) ammo can and backpack setup thanks to the information provided by the original propmaker. I replaced all of the nuts and screws with ones that were more accurate, and I've acquired actual ball-detent pins from a real minigun. Those will be added soon. Here is a pic of my Predator version minigun replica as it looks today. A couple minor mods (i.e., the pins) pending.

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    Here is another version I built. You can see how I replaced the bolts and screws to better replicate the originals. This one, also, is awaiting addition of the real minigun ball detent pins.

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    I had a real minigun dataplate recreated in aluminum. Accurate down to the mounting holes. I sold almost one hundred of these over the years.

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    Here's a photo of an "action figure" (not a doll.) I made to photograph alongside my Predator mini.

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    As you can see...miniguns can become an addiction.
     
  18. Duck9000

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    Awesome job. :eek
     
  19. JunkSabers1138

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    I know that Ol' Painless was used in both Predator and T2 with different configurations. So has anyone Identified what the parts were on OP in Predator? Eltee said that the gunmaker for the film, as well as another propmaker gave him parts which were of the same kind of parts used on OP.
    To me, some parts stick out:
    1. Upper handle: Could be handle from an M-16 variant as those guns have that groove that runs down the middle.
    2. Lower handle: Obviously an M-60 foregrip with what looks like a Browning M2 part (my buddy has a DETAILED magazine with an article entirely about this gun. I believe that it's some sort of either Gas release or safety mechanism).
    3. Lower cradle: ??? I don't know yet, but I swear I've seen one before.
    4 Upper cradle: ??? Don't know yet, but I think they say in the 2-disc version that it was for an M-60 helicoptor mount.

    At least that's what it looks like to me.

    Who's ready for another I'D thread :D . Come on everyone :D .

    P.S.--Eltee, is Monty's Miniguns updated since last year? I've never seen that pic at the top of your post on MM anywhere. Also, I too have bought a Jesse action figure and turned it into a Blaine as well as taking an intoyz minigun and gring the lower cradle down and attatching an M-60 handgrip to it. I've yet to make the top handle like OP and do straps and a shiny ammo chute like you did but I am trying hard to find the parts that look right.
     
  20. eltee

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    Monty has many photos that he doesn't / hasn't posted on his website. He and I have amassed a pretty good collection of screen and real minigun photos. The favorite photo of my personal minigun is this one.

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    The original lower cradle I have is almost identical to the one I recreated. The tube inside the M60 grip is non functional (on the Predator prop) although on the M60 the lower tube is part of the firing mechanism and has a front cap, etc.

    The sight channel on an M16 handle may have inspired the builders of the prop minigun, I should ask if they ever intended to put a sight in there :love as maybe it was originally going to function more like a Squad Auto Weapon and have a bi pod or tri pod for fixed use.
     
  21. Hirohawa

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    Do these fire anything?

    They both look great.
     
  22. KevVader

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    Ooooo...miniguns....yummy.

    Nice job lads. :thumbsup
     
  23. OdiWan72

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    that is awesome...

    Markus
     
  24. Sidewinder

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    Only the imagination. :lol

    SAS

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  25. Boba Frett

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    Fantastic job guys.
     
  26. eltee

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    <div class='quotetop'>(Hirohawa @ Jul 8 2006, 03:10 PM) [snapback]1276860[/snapback]</div>
    The ones I posted do not fire. HOWEVER, I am a part owner and instructor at a shooting range and law enforcement training center where 3 times a year we allow citizens to rent time on full auto firearms, grenade launchers and a flame thrower. If you want to fire a real, live minigun or are interested in shooting anything from a mini Uzi to a belt fed .50 caliber M2 (all full auto) check: www.mustangrange.com You may enjoy the news footage of some full autos and the flame thrower. We also do private shooting sessions with our full autos. Anyway, I have pretty open access to real miniguns and they are impressive (and expensive) to shoot. In fact, there may be 10 or more machineguns going off at the same time but when the minigun goes off...all the other shooters stop. It is amazing. There are photos of our rental minigun on the website.

    If any RPF member is interested in attending one of our open to the public machinegun shoots, PM me for complimentary admission tickets (you will still have to pay for the time on whatever gun/s you choose, but if I'm working the line when you are there I can cut you a break). If you stormies want to shoot a live full-auto Sterling (E-11 blaster) we can arrange for polished brass that will show up better in a photo. I'll even temporarily attach some "T" grip for the right look.

    Here's a photo of me conducting some impact explosives demonstrations. We can arrange for anyone to do the same.

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    All shooting of full autos and all explosive detonations are done lawfully and with full instruction and supervision. We are a fully licensed and insured facility.
     
  27. JunkSabers1138

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    <div class='quotetop'>(eltee @ Jul 9 2006, 10:26 AM) [snapback]1277217[/snapback]</div>
    The ones I posted do not fire. HOWEVER, I am a part owner and instructor at a shooting range and law enforcemement training center where 3 times a year we allow citizens to rent time on full auto firearms, grenade launchers and a flame thrower. If you want to fire a real, live minigun or are interested in shooting anything from a mini Uzi to a belt fed .50 caliber M2 (all full auto) check: www.mustangrange.com

    If any RPF member is interested in attending one of our open to the public machinegun shoots, PM me for comp. admissions tickets (you will still have to pay for the time on whatever gun/s you choose). If you stormies want to shoot a live Sterling (E-11 blaster) we can arrange for polished brass that will show up better in a photo. I'll even temporarily attach some "T" grip for the right look.

    Here's a photo of me conducting some impact explosives demonstrations. We can arrange for anyone to do the same.

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    All shooting of full autos and all explosive detonations are done lawfully and with full instruction and supervision. We are a fully licensed and insured facility.
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    SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET............
     
  28. JunkSabers1138

    JunkSabers1138 Sr Member

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    <div class='quotetop'>(eltee @ Jul 8 2006, 11:19 AM) [snapback]1276689[/snapback]</div>
    What was wrong with this post before you edited it? It seemed fine to me. I only got to read half of it before I had to do something for my mom and then she got on something while I was doing it and took a while before she got off. Could you please re-post your thoughts on my thoughts of the gun parts?
     
  29. eltee

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    <div class='quotetop'>(JunkSabers1138 @ Jul 9 2006, 03:17 PM) [snapback]1277452[/snapback]</div>
    Lydia asked me to remove her home phone number from the post. :lol

    Actually, I just made the reply more succinct. I also tried to intersperse my replies to your question in italics, etc. but couldn't get it to look right so I simply took out your questions and left the replies in statement form.
     
  30. JunkSabers1138

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    <div class='quotetop'>(eltee @ Jul 9 2006, 05:28 PM) [snapback]1277458[/snapback]</div>
    Lydia asked me to remove her home phone number from the post. :lol

    Actually, I just made the reply more succinct. I also tried to intersperse my replies to your question in italics, etc. but couldn't get it to look right so I simply took out your questions and left the replies in statement form.
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    Oh. Okay :) .
     

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