PIH Selling Another "Original" Luke ANH Hilt

[AnubisGuard]

Glad profiles listened because even they took a loss because I can only imagine the commission they would make on the sale

The power of therpf at its finest, good job to everyone who emailed and voiced their concern

Definitely think we owe a debt of gratitude to Hamill, too, for tweeting his doubts about it. That gave the issue the signal boost it needed for various publications to start digging for more information.

 

[H0llyw00d]

If the prop had been authentic. And we were all like, "Well heck, there it is...", we'd be talking about how many zeroes were at the end of that auction right now... and I'd welcome the pics.

 

[Halliwax]

Yeah. My personal theory is that Roger simply doesn't remember anything about how he built these things and everything he says is BS. But that's just my theory.

Another thing I think now matt, is learning that john sheer was the one who assembled most of the stuff

I wouldn’t put it past him being the one to actually have assembled the graflexs as well

This would explain how roger’s Parts origins keep jumping around all over the place...

 

[scarf man]

It's John Stears.

 

[Birdie]

Christian may be a con-man, but for those that are questioning his credentials as a prop builder, he did the working flame-throwers and the Nostromo sidearms on Alien. I imagine it was all hands on deck on SW, and with Stears gone, the whole truth will probably never be known.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Yeah, it’s all “Mad Libs” now with opportunistic people filling their names into the blanks to take credit for these things when no one else is left to speak up to the contrary.

One thing that always had me doubting Christian’s tale is his claim that “I knew this was going to be ‘Excalibur for a new generation’” in reference to the GRAFLEX.

If you read behind the scenes articles and books, and listen to interviews from before the film’s release, NO ONE—not even George Lucas—thought “Star Wars” was going to be a groundbreaking hit. Most of the crew thought it was “rubbish”, to quote Kenny Baker.

But Roger alone claims to have had the foresight to know this would be a smash hit and that the GRAFLEX hilt would be “Excaliber to a new generation” and thus tucked at least one of them away into the magical storage locker.

Right...

Christian may be a con-man, but for those that are questioning his credentials as a prop builder, he did the working flame-throwers and the Nostromo sidearms on Alien. I imagine it was all hands on deck on SW, and with Stears gone, the whole truth will probably never be known.

 

[Halliwax]

Yeah, it’s all “Mad Libs” now with opportunistic people filling their names into the blanks to take credit for these things when no one else is left to speak up to the contrary.

One thing that always had me doubting Christian’s tale is his claim that “I knew this was going to be ‘Excalibur for a new generation’” in reference to the GRAFLEX.

If you read behind the scenes articles and books, and listen to interviews from before the films release, NO ONE—not even George Lucas—thought “Star Wars” was going to be a groundbreaking hit. Most of the crew thought it was “rubbish”, to quote Kenny Baker.

But Roger alone claims to have had the foresight to know this would be smash hit and that the GRAFLEX hilt would be “Excaliber to a new generation” and thus tucked at least one of them away into the magical storage locker.

Right...

Never really thought of it like that.. you’re right

 

[Apollo]

What a loon!

I have heard used car salesmen with better lines!!

One thing that always had me doubting Christian’s tale is his claim that “I knew this was going to be ‘Excalibur for a new generation’” in reference to the GRAFLEX.
.

 

[thd9791]

A theme we keep seeing time and again is the recycling of lightsaber props. Somehow the ESB Hero was taken a part and ended up attached to other graflexes to form the Skywalker Ranch Saber. Somehow one of the fencing stunts for Luke ended up as a last-minute lightsaber for Vader. Somehow the Circuit board in the V3 castings used in ROTJ closely match the cards made for the ESB Graflexes.

I wouldn't be surprised, since the camera equipment was bought and not rented, if the ANH Hero(s) was(were) cannibalized for ESB. The circuit board was said to be a quick fix given the bubbles disappeared, and we were right about the grips falling off and being screwed on, leaving one off ended up with 6. What if the saber that the grips fell off of was one of the same the ANH props from the first film?

I wouldn't be surprised if RC bought up a few more after he found they were useful for filming, and either used them as back-ups or kept them. The greeblies distinctly do not seem vintage to me regardless.

 

[thd9791]

edit: if it was re-used throughout filming, that would make the Skywalker Ranch Saber possibly the ANH, in pieces.

 

[TheUnchosenOne]

I wouldn't be surprised, since the camera equipment was bought and not rented, if the ANH Hero(s) was(were) cannibalized for ESB.

This seems as plausible an explanation as any for why no ANH lightsabers have ever turned up. Wouldn't surprise me if the same is true of Vader's, and Obi-Wan's was simply disassembled (since it came in so many parts and nothing was glued together, as far as we know) and just no longer exists.

 

[Panaflex]

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[canister]

Seems like some bending of the truth there. Totally unreliable. good video of from original props blog too.

 

[SethS]

This thread makes me wish there was an extension to this board so it wouldn't let you post until you'd actually read all the entries before you reply.

 

[Halliwax]

A theme we keep seeing time and again is the recycling of lightsaber props. Somehow the ESB Hero was taken a part and ended up attached to other graflexes to form the Skywalker Ranch Saber. Somehow one of the fencing stunts for Luke ended up as a last-minute lightsaber for Vader. Somehow the Circuit board in the V3 castings used in ROTJ closely match the cards made for the ESB Graflexes.

I wouldn't be surprised, since the camera equipment was bought and not rented, if the ANH Hero(s) was(were) cannibalized for ESB. The circuit board was said to be a quick fix given the bubbles disappeared, and we were right about the grips falling off and being screwed on, leaving one off ended up with 6. What if the saber that the grips fell off of was one of the same the ANH props from the first film?

I wouldn't be surprised if RC bought up a few more after he found they were useful for filming, and either used them as back-ups or kept them. The greeblies distinctly do not seem vintage to me regardless.

Tom I’m completely on board with this, I agree with ya.

Most likely some of the ESB graflexs came from ANH

I think more were purchased because there is a ton of graflexs in ESB compared to ANH

Now roger wasn’t involved in ESB or RoTJ, so him buying more I find hard to believe, unless you mean he bought more during the time of ANH. But he was tasked with only needing a few, he once stated he made 3 graflexs, now he says 5... god only knows

I think the ANH graflexs are Folmer/Folmer +patent because of their finish

The ones Rogers are claiming to be extras from the set seem to be the newest NY patent’s.. which if all the ones in ANH were early flashes I would guess all of them were early.. but no proof to that either...

I have no doubt these graflexs just came from eBay

Heck roger didn’t even take the time to put the clamp in the right orientation... or cut the grips correctly

 

[13doctorwho]

He could have had a more convincing con if he did a little research here first. Lucky he's unethical and STUPID.

 

[Marv]

Yeah. My personal theory is that Roger simply doesn't remember anything about how he built these things and everything he says is BS. But that's just my theory.

I got that from reading his book, sure I've said it before but seemed as though he cobbled info from what has been posted here on the site. Nothing insightful about any of the props where things haven't been identified.

 

[BlandoCalrssian]

Now why is the recent info given by Roger Christian about a Roberton screw used as the
D-ring attachment seemingly taken as gospel now, considering how unreliable and inconsistant he seems to be on the whole subject?

 

[Dann]

I certainly don't take that as gospel. Not for one second.

 

[Halliwax]

I don’t believe roger ever said “Robertson screw”

Last I read/saw was he said his screw had a square socket instead of a conventional flat or Phillips head