PIH Selling Another "Original" Luke ANH Hilt
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JMSupp
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Thanks for the correction! Is there any real idea how many lightsabers with Kurtz provenance are out there?
Also, in your guide, which is awesome BTW, you mention in the "Holiday Special" section that the ANH hero saber was stripped of it's parts and returned to the prop house. Do you have a source for that? I can't seem to find it, though I'm probably overlooking something.
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Hi Seth. The Paul Allen Graflex and the Ripley's Graflex are the same piece from Gary Kurtz. I've been looking back through the auction catalogs and the auction description that Ripley's won cites the provenance as the Paul Allen auction. Here's a screen cap:
Side note: Does ANYONE have a source for that taller, straight-profile, reddish brownish T Track???!!!!
I know there's some like it out there, I have a small section of a piece, but it's black.
Heck, I'd be alright with black, as long as it has the correct profile!!
I know there's some like it out there, I have a small section of a piece, but it's black.
Heck, I'd be alright with black, as long as it has the correct profile!!
Last I'd heard, Ripley was still displaying theirs, and I saw the one at the EMP in Seattle last year.
They look the same. We're assuming Don Bies did the detail work post ROTJ as they have similar t-track Dann is noticing that all the post ROTJ Vader promo sabers had.
Don's been asked about both the Kurtz sabers and that t-track but he hasn't said much.
Kurtz did what Christian is doing now-- I want to say there were three or four but I can't co firm that as the same ones have been up for auction multiple times.
The only way I know Ripley's and Paul Allen's are different is because they are both currently on display.
As for the ANH hero being broken down-- no proof, just conjecture given that a fair amount of props from the movie were sold back and/or restored to what they were before. It was an assumption made simply because no ANH Graflex saber was ever seen again after the movie wrapped. So it's not definitive, and obviously dorsn't jive with what Christian is saying these days.
H0llyw00d
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Last I heard kalkamel still had some of SaberFreak 's vintage tracks.
Are these the vintage T-tracks we've been looking for?
That's interesting, I wasn't aware that they were both on display concurrently! I had assumed the attribution was for the specific prop rather than referring to the source of the prop -- Gary Kurtz. I stand corrected
kalkamel
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I had a few rolls of Saberfreak's track but sold them, even gave one to Roger Christian when he came to Malaysia. The vintage t-tracks I currently carry are the ones I found last year. They have a slimmer taller profile and they're brown.
The story Christian tells is so ridiculous that it depends upon a suspension of disbelief and the blindness of the gullible.
“All this time I had a singular prop stored away for 40 years that is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars that I totally forget was there until just now...that’s right..that’s the ticket...”
Whomever blows their money on what is most likely a replica also obtains the titles of “Lord Of The Suckers” and “Hero Of The Stupid” along with their purchase.
A fool and his money are soon parted...
“All this time I had a singular prop stored away for 40 years that is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars that I totally forget was there until just now...that’s right..that’s the ticket...”
Whomever blows their money on what is most likely a replica also obtains the titles of “Lord Of The Suckers” and “Hero Of The Stupid” along with their purchase.
A fool and his money are soon parted...
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This is an interesting series of interviews that appear to have taken place on the same date with the same interviewer.
In the first interview, he seems to go along with declaring an apparent replica to be an original prop....is this the same one that is now up for auction?
At the very beginning, the interviewer excitedly declares “the lightsaber is HERE?? That is THE lightsaber??” and Christian then declares “That’s exactly the one that Obi Wan Kenobi brings out of the trunk, gives it to Luke and says ‘this was your fathers..’”.
He lets this continue with interviewer, who says “I can’t believe I’m here with THE lightsaber...I’m scared to touch it”.
Following the formal interview, in this second segment, he appears to disclose that it is a replica...”This is duplicated exactly as I made it on the first one...(1:28)”
In the first interview, he seems to go along with declaring an apparent replica to be an original prop....is this the same one that is now up for auction?
At the very beginning, the interviewer excitedly declares “the lightsaber is HERE?? That is THE lightsaber??” and Christian then declares “That’s exactly the one that Obi Wan Kenobi brings out of the trunk, gives it to Luke and says ‘this was your fathers..’”.
He lets this continue with interviewer, who says “I can’t believe I’m here with THE lightsaber...I’m scared to touch it”.
Following the formal interview, in this second segment, he appears to disclose that it is a replica...”This is duplicated exactly as I made it on the first one...(1:28)”
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Mad Monkey
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Again, they are riding along with it. If it nets them their commission then so be it. Also what research is there to do. Not like these things had serial numbers on them. (note for future prop makers)
kalkamel
Master Member
That's his own personal one he carries for media appearances. Its a vintage with replica parts, with GINO tracks if I'm not mistaken.
The PIH saber has different greeblies and tracks.
Actually there is evidence of one Hero having a serial number! it looks etched or stamped, so most likely it's from military cataloging or a personal photographer and not from the film crew
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ANH Skywalker Lightsaber
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ANH Skywalker Lightsaber
never mind found it.
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I brought this same exact thing up a while ago. I put him on blast because he’s caught lying right in the video! Right at the beginning he claims it’s the original.. then at the end it’s all replica parts..
I always wanted to meet this guy, being the father of the lightsaber... but now after pulling these stunts I could care less...
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