Pep to Molded Plastics War Machine,Gatling Gun,Stronger Mount and Other WM Weaponry!

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Sweet!:$
I am glad you like that! It looks really cool on the chest piece too because they are so sharp and deep looking!:love
off to rest man tired and early busy day tomorrow!
M
 
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Not a huge lot of progress today! :unsure
The Wife got tired of me on the dinning room table messing up the floors and leaving armor pieces strewn about our main living areas, so went and bought a glass topped work table and small wood working bench and reclaimed "The dogs room" where we crate our puppies when we arent home during the day.
I told her now all of the dogs are in one room. :lol
I had to assemble the bench and desk and rearrange the rooms LOL! I am now moving all of my stuff from the dinning room to the now "HOBBY ROOM"yes you hear it! :lol
I finally for the first time in my life have an actual hobby room inside my house!! Very excited, now I just need Iron Man movie posters and some shelves! Well off to finish moving! Yiippee!:cool
Off to do more War Machine work!
 
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Not a huge lot of progress today! :unsure
The Wife got tired of me on the dinning room table messing up the floors and leaving armor pieces strewn about our main living areas, so went and bought a glass topped work table and small wood working bench and reclaimed "The dogs room" where we crate our puppies when we arent home during the day.
I told her now all of the dogs are in one room. :lol
I had to assemble the bench and desk and rearrange the rooms LOL! I am now moving all of my stuff from the dinning room to the now "HOBBY ROOM"yes you hear it! :lol
I finally for the first time in my life have an actual hobby room inside my house!! Very excited, now I just need Iron Man movie posters and some shelves! Well off to finish moving! Yiippee!:cool
Off to do more War Machine work!




you are one lucky man!!!! got some news I'm sending you a pm....
 
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The hobby room?lol my son calls his son the iron man room..I have pieces all over...lol..
 
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I was debating about calling it the R&D lab or just "The Lab" But Im 49 pushing 50 LOL! People already give me the "oh he's really quite nuts look waaayy too much LOL!" I am lucky I look so young for my age!:$ If I dint they might call my room the "padded cell." hehehe!:lol
 
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Take some pictures when you finish putting the room together....
 
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:sleepWill do! In the morning LOL! i'll re-edit this and throw some picks up the my new pigsty in the new location LOL! I am abnormally tired tonight, could be the 100+ degrees due to the humidity,:sleep temp outside is still in the 90s and the suns been down for hours.. and the pool is 93 degrees. :sick
It is 12 feet deep and 40, 0000 gal (no garbage, for real) guy that built the house, dug the crater himself. Do you know how hot it has to be to heat that much H2o up to that temp....well over 100 if you want to know!:facepalm
Pics tommorrow! Night all.
M
 
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Here is the Armory!
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Small but should work ok.
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Nothing fancy, I have to get some shelves for the corners and some movie posters LOL!

You can see one of the hell hounds off in the left lower corner.
First question my wife asked was, "will the armor be in here too?" :confused
Not much space, they're going in the living room, bedroom, rumpus room.. the ... cant stop at just one!:behave

P.S. the walls are a "warm cocoa" not pink LOL! so my wife tells me...hehehe
 
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Slap some blue or something over it, warm cocoa is light brown, so my wife tells me ahahahahaha nice space, now a ton of posters, then IKEA the crap out of it with shelves and maybe a display case...
 
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I promise not to cross post everything :behave and apologize to those of you following both my IM builds, I just want to cross post relevant information and the Micarta info is related to both of my builds!:$

Making progress today! :lol
Resin applied to IM MK3 parts! and working on making the Micarta composite material for the orbital hinges for my helmets.
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I was wondering how to hang my pep parts to cure as we went to all plastic hangers in our home, so no metal hangers to cut up mommy dearest! :angry
The masking tape worked great!!

Since I had the resin out I thought I'd try my hand at some homemade Micarta. I need to start expirementing now..
The material came up when I asked my brother in law,who is part Mcguyver and part Edison, for some ideas about materials for the orbital hinges that Mightyjohn designed for our IM helmets. Blue prints in hand, I showed him the plan and told him my thoughts.
I was all for aluminum or brass,but machining metal is out of my wood working tools realm. Plus the machining would need to be tight and smooth.:sick He told me that he thought that something light but very strong like a composite material would turn the trick better. He suggested micarta..:)
The trouble with the metals would be machining all the compound curves and inner slits the armatures follow. The trouble with composites are that professionally made ones like Micarta are hideously expensive like 800-1200$ for 4x8 sheets and that is the really cheap stuff! :eek
He uses "homemade" Micarta to make knife handles and says it is almost as hard as light metal or really stiff plastic, yet it sands and works like wood.
Here is the method I used.

Homemade Micarta - YouTube

There are literally a bazzilion videos up so pick a narrator you like and give it a look.
I know I needed to stay thin,(you can make this stuff as thick as a boat hull if you wanted) but our visors are really light and we are working in a very small area, so for this first attempt I went with 2 pieces red construction paper, 1 layer denim, 2 pieces red construction paper, 1 layer denim (with the weave opposite the other) and then 2 pieces red construction paper.

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Each layer had a coat of resin applied then they were wrapped in wax paper between 2 blocks of wood and compressed as hard as my wood working vise would compress it. Since I don't need huge pieces I was able to do this without C-clamps in the vise jaws. Plus industrial micarta is made under tons of pressure, i wanted as tight a piece as I could get, so compression must be high. You need to watch out for material slipping/squirting as the compression makes the material want to push out of the wax paper. A little finnesse and knowing it does that ahead of time will save you a wasted run.
I used 5 oz of resin for the one piece due to the layers and wanting good resin penetration.
Torqued the vise and ;
It really squeezed out a lot! Make sure the wax paper is looped on the bottom of the micarta so it doesnt drip on the floor.
micartainvice2.jpg

Well back to pepakura! I going to let that cure till tomorrow and uncompress it then.
I will be posting how it goes... I may not be able to fully motorize my helmets by halloween, but hopefully I can get the MK3 and WM helmets geared and ready to accept servos..that way I can open and close the visors by hand at least.
we'll see.:unsure
 
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The micarta does not need to cure till tomorrow (makes sense, once the resin cures it is done) :unsure per my kindred so here are the de-vised? pictures!
I cleaned up the edges with my chop saw and the wax paper though really stuck on there, scoured off easily with hot water, detergent and a scrubby pad! It worked out so awesome!!!!:lol
Micarta1.jpg

30mm x 11mm and 3 mm thick and flat as a board!!!!
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It actually is a perfect amount to do my Mightyjohn orbital parts!!
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Per purchase agreement I cannot show the actual parts or their design, :cry however these are paper blanks cut out so I can see the layout and it is flawless!!!
I am going to glue the actual templates to the micarta with pva and use my dads fine scroll saw with the jeweler blade that is ultra fine. He uses that for cutting the wood inserts for his inlayed boxes that he builds. I should be able to use fine jewelers files to clean up my tracks and pivot points.
I am very very pleased.:$ This stuff is as hard as really stiff plastic, but has a very slight side to side give that should help with the slight curve of the inside of the helmet!!
Keep you posted!!
 
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Nice!!!! I need some material like that to put my hinges on; I have the templates of the base for the hinges, silly question here, is that material even available somewhere? I don have a press or anything like that to make them....on the other hand I finished the torso and is drying out as we speak....later I'm going to be sending you some files I have.....
 
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It is available at 800-1200 per sheet! There may be a surplus store near you that has remnants, there is one here in Sanford per my brother in law, I've not been there.
I will gladly make you a piece or two David and send it to you! You have been such an unbelievable help to me! No issues, just let me know how big a piece you need to get all of your parts!
M
 
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Thanks brother, let me check if I can ind some around here, if not then I'll let you know, enjoy that file I sent you....
 
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I meant to thank you Powerhouse for the compliment! :$
I think that each material has its benefits and drawbacks. I really want detail (pep) and speed (foam), but that aside, the huge shoulder bells would probably be better in foam as would the arms and legs, but the chest and back needed to be pep'd for me. That mix of foam and glass might also cut down on all the clatter that a fully glassed suit has when you move around in it, I thin Davy and Fingz have solved alot of that as in close-up pics you can see foam/rubber? gaskets at the joints.:cool
Anywho, I hope that the combined media will yield the results I want. I am thinking of the same approach in the MK3 but exactly opposite! Instead of a glassed torso like WM, the MK3 would have plastic covered foam for the chest and back, but glass most everywhere else. The curves of the chest are maybe rendered better in foam. One thing I am learning here is there aren't many viable short cuts though!
M
 
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Hey Michael, well I got another update I will post where to cut the back and chest; and it came out nice!!!! now I'm reinforcing the edges with the wooden sticks, also latter I will draw the way I'm putting them together and post the hardware with names and prices....
 
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Thanks! David you are awesome and I am looking forward to seeing this!! I was thinking hinges glassed into the shoulders and magnets or velcro at the lower chest seam,,,?? Not sure. Didnt get quite done with the torso this weekend as I spent time moving my lab and getting ready for my wifes procedure today.... had to have the house 100% clean...
 
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I hope she does well and get better soon, I came out with something that we won't need any velcro, all magnets, strong little suckers they can pinch the skin out of your fingers when the snap together...I read that the magnets have more power when you use steel or metal with them, so I got me some material. I'm taking the pics and they will be up in about 5 minutes, I'm going to do kind of like a walk through with mack-ups to illustrate my idea better than drawing it....
 
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Thank you so much David, she will be ok.:love
If you want to cross post with a cut and paste or a link to your work on IM methods, please feel free too!:)
I love that you like to educate folks like I do and our attention to detail and concern for positive results are very close so please do feel free to post here! Mi WM thread su WM thread LOL!
 
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coming up!!! hahahahahaha my regards to the wife, tell her "que te mejores pronto"
 
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