Pegasus getting Terminator license
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LOL. It's the BIG military scale. Your other options are 1/72, 1/76 and 1/87. I have no idea why the last two even exist, but they do.
(OK, OK, there used to be some 1/25, 1/24, 1/16 and 1/15 scale armour too. And there's been more 1/16 stuff lately, and 1/9 and 1/6. But those are 'exception' sorts of kits. If you want a Churchill in 1/72 or 1/35, you can go straight out and buy any one of several versions. Want one in 1/16? Too bad, you can't just assume there is one out there.)
Mate! Calm down!!
You know the aerial HK will be about 18" long in this scale, right? And even the ground HK will occupy about a cubic foot.
Right, regular model tube glue wont work. You would need to use one of the liquid cements like Ambroid, Tamiya, or Testors liquid. Super glue would work also.
JMChladek
Sr Member
As I understand it, 1/76 and 1/87 grew out of respective train scales for the US and the UK. Sometimes they are referred to as HO or OO scale (HO being "half O"). The train track widths are the same, but for OO, the Brits scaled things a little differently and it came to 1/76 (I can't recall if UK and Europe railways are narrower than typical US based railways). Since I believe US railways are a little wider, scale the rest of the locomotive to fit a same dimension piece of track and you get a smaller number (1/87).
Of course, how it applies to military stuff, Roco Minitanks in Austria for many years was making a set of pre-built armor from WW2 up to modern day and they did everything from towed artillery pieces and jeeps on up to main battle tanks (they even did some airplanes and helicopters). Airfix in the UK seemed to be the originator of 1/76 as they did many of their tank models and figure sets in that size. Although you look at them, they don't really look all that different from 1/72. So ultimately, things got re-labeled to the 1/72 size (such as in the US when MPC was importing some of the Airfix armor and re-labeling it to conform with the more popular 1/72 aircraft scale). Stick 1/72 and 1/76 armor together and you can't really tell any difference (kind of like sticking 1/24 and 1/25 scale car models together). Even Airfix themselves started mixing stuff together in thier diorama models as you might have an RAF base diorama with a tower, two refuelling trucks, figures and a Spitfire (and all are labeled 1/72). But, I have seen exactly the same trucks labeled as 1/76 when by themselves (same with the tower).
Of course, how it applies to military stuff, Roco Minitanks in Austria for many years was making a set of pre-built armor from WW2 up to modern day and they did everything from towed artillery pieces and jeeps on up to main battle tanks (they even did some airplanes and helicopters). Airfix in the UK seemed to be the originator of 1/76 as they did many of their tank models and figure sets in that size. Although you look at them, they don't really look all that different from 1/72. So ultimately, things got re-labeled to the 1/72 size (such as in the US when MPC was importing some of the Airfix armor and re-labeling it to conform with the more popular 1/72 aircraft scale). Stick 1/72 and 1/76 armor together and you can't really tell any difference (kind of like sticking 1/24 and 1/25 scale car models together). Even Airfix themselves started mixing stuff together in thier diorama models as you might have an RAF base diorama with a tower, two refuelling trucks, figures and a Spitfire (and all are labeled 1/72). But, I have seen exactly the same trucks labeled as 1/76 when by themselves (same with the tower).
That is how it was explained to me when I was working in a hobby shop too, so I'm thinking you are correct sir.
Pegasus is doing what I'd do if I were in the model business and had the license to something like Terminator. Make them to a common scale, not some odd ball large size. Why? Resale ability. Make them in the common armor scale, they'll sell more. Folks will be making dioramas and instead of say 1 HK in 1:18, they'll buy 2-3 smaller ones. Same with the Endos, not as detailed but you can sell armies of them.
I can imagine doing a great diorama of the popular battle scene seen in the first and second T movies. Lots of Endos, modified army guys, destroyed vehicles and buildings, etc. I can't wait to pick up a couple of each of these. Two tanks and two aerials will net me 20 Endo's, perfect for a diorama. Since the war was not too far into the future modern military stuff will work just fine. You wont need a lot of "space age" looking vehicles or figures. Weapons on the military figures will need small mods though.
pennausamike
Sr Member
This also means you could use 1/32nd scale aircraft (in-flight or crashed)
in a Terminator battle scene.
Use of the standard armor scale is a solid decision from both an artistic sense,
(builders can combine lots of other kits and figures in dioramas and the HK tanks will look cool displayed with real-world armor for those who collect vehicles but don't build dioramas)
and from a business sense,
(the market size increased by the number of standard scale builders, a lower price point, hopefully, than a giant scale kit, and the possibility of multiple sales per customer rather than one-and-done).
Interested, depending on price
Mike
ONEYE
Sr Member
Mate! Calm down!!
I suck.
I suck.
No you don't. You just have to embrace different scales and accept that not everything has to be 2 feet long.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
And you'd be amazed just how detailed sculpts can actually be in 1:35 scale with the type of sculptors working in these scales today. I've shat my pants regularly, when seeing the quality and detail-work on some of those thumb-size sculpts - stuff you expect in larger scale sculpts and not those small ones - and if Pegasus is smart, they'll hire that kind of sculptors and hit this right out of the ball-park of pure awesomeness.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Well, seeing as the WotW glider came brass chromed, as an option they clearly got that down, so would expect them to extend it to this line too. It would only make sense.
More than likely, based on their recent offerings, the kit will come first in white ABS. A few months later they will probably offer a pre-built and chromed version. They did this with their WOtW War Machine and then with their (painted) Galaxy Quest kits. I'm sure we will get chromed, but probably not at first. Plus, so far, all of their scifi kits have been home runs. I suspect the Terminator kits will be just as stunning.
ONEYE
Sr Member
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OzDean
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Last two are used for model trains - HO and OO scales.
What's the pricing on this stuff going to be like? Can't wait!
Hobo Wan Kenobi
Sr Member
I hope ther either scale up the dragon or scale down Galen. It's just looks way to far off to me
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Coming to think of it... 1:35 is really going to be big for these Hunter Killers. Would be cool if they did them in 1:72 scale as well, as I have limited room and it would match my other sci-fi and military vehicle collection, as that's also all in 1:72 scale. Think about it... the flying hunter killer next to the X-Wing and TIE fighters and WW2 planes... all win.
ZOMBIEREPELLENT
Sr Member
I'm interested in an HK but I wish they'd do a nice, large scale endo. Like 18" tall or something.
dropshipbob
Master Member
NECA produced an 18" endoskeleton a few years ago, but it's more toy like...you may want something more accurate.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
The Neca endoskeleton is a refined and simplified version of the old ArgoNauts model kit, which, if I remember correctly, was direct or linked to the T2 Stan Winston filming miniature endos. Some have even begun to use the Neca parts to fix some issues with the vinyl kit. Aoshima even re-issued the vinyl endo, but I'm not certain how many were actually made, before they switched to their die-cast 12" endos - I also think they simplified some parts like hands and feet - similar to what we see on the Neca.
You could be lucky however to come across one of the very few resin ArgoNauts kits... but don't hold your breath for that one.
You could be lucky however to come across one of the very few resin ArgoNauts kits... but don't hold your breath for that one.
