nwjedidave
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Original theatrical Star Wars back in theater
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division 6
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Wonder if it has the missing dialog between Leia and Vader on the Tantive 4.
Ok what am I missing!?
BFI Film on Film Festival line-up includes original release print of Star Wars and Twin Peaks pilot episode with special guest Kyle MacLachlan
The festival opens with a glorious dye-transfer original British release print of Star Wars, and will close with a pristine 35mm print of the original US pilot episode of Twin Peaks, screening for the first time ever in the UK and presented in person by special guest Kyle MacLachlan.
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Man. Those tickets will sell out in nanoseconds... Especially since NFT1 only has 450 seats, and if they show it in the IMAX, that's 500 seats...
VADER: "I told you - no staying out after 7!"
LEIA: "Dad.. why are you such a wet blanket?"
LMAO
division 6
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Over the course of the 25 times I saw it the movie kept being edited.
There was a longer conversation between the 2 the first few times I saw it.
Kinda like seeing Big Trouble in little China.
The top less girl in the hall in the White Tiger and Jack pushing the Camero into the bay ( now part of the bonus material )
There was a longer conversation between the 2 the first few times I saw it.
Kinda like seeing Big Trouble in little China.
The top less girl in the hall in the White Tiger and Jack pushing the Camero into the bay ( now part of the bonus material )
Hm. Is it possible this is a memory conflated with the radio series and the novel?
The 35mm scan that's out there (a digital scan of the original 35mm theatrical release) is identical to the SE for this scene. The shooting script and the script in the Art of Star Wars book are basically identical except for one sentence ("you passed directly through a restricted system") that was cut from the middle of Vader's first bit of dialogue in the conversation. Is that what you mean? I don't recall hearing of any major changes to this particular sequence.
Not saying that big changes here are impossible - just that I've not seen any evidence for it, I'm afraid.
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nwjedidave
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I don't remember extended dialog either.
There SHOULD be some kind of Leia come back after Vader says "You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor, take her away!"
As the troopers start to push her away it looks as if she says something, and the trooper to her right snaps his neck to look at her.
There SHOULD be some kind of Leia come back after Vader says "You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor, take her away!"
As the troopers start to push her away it looks as if she says something, and the trooper to her right snaps his neck to look at her.
Also, whoever wrote that article seems to be particularly clueless about filmmaking, calling that version of Star Wars "unedited". Every film that's released has been edited! 
Anyway. The BFI have some fan favourites this year. Not only do they have the original release print of Star Wars as a dye transfer (ie: it shouldn't have faded, unlike the awful colour-shifted 70s/80s movies out there), but they have the pilot for Twin Peaks on 35mm film and introduced by Kyle McLachlan, and Stanley Kubrick's early films the Killing and the Day of the Fight, Kubrick's own prints.
Anyway. The BFI have some fan favourites this year. Not only do they have the original release print of Star Wars as a dye transfer (ie: it shouldn't have faded, unlike the awful colour-shifted 70s/80s movies out there), but they have the pilot for Twin Peaks on 35mm film and introduced by Kyle McLachlan, and Stanley Kubrick's early films the Killing and the Day of the Fight, Kubrick's own prints.
division 6
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Well I never heard the radio series and read the after seeing it 3 times.
Every couple of times I'd see it it would be be edited.
Somewhere around the tenth time the opening had "a new hope" added.
Every couple of times I'd see it it would be be edited.
Somewhere around the tenth time the opening had "a new hope" added.
I watched the original movie on the opening weekend in '77 and many times over during that summer. While I don't recall extended dialogue on the Tantive IV, I do remember other rolling dialogue changes and edits. The way I discovered and confirmed these changes was by sneaking a cassette recorder into the theater and recording the movie. I listened to the audio tapes so many times that I could recite the whole movie line by line.
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asalaw
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I saw the movie many, many times throughout '77, '78, and I think '79, in two different countries, and it was always the identical movie. With the exception of the added scenes and effects, I still see the identical cut of the original scenes. The only difference from '77-'79 was whether it had Spanish subtitles (we lived in Caracas from late '76 till mid-'78). My first viewing was in Miami in August '77.
The only issues I'm aware of, from what I've read, is that three different sound mixes were created for the original 1977 film. These were done for different releases - a 35mm Dolby Stereo mix, a six-channel surround mix for 70mm blowup prints, and a bog-standard mono mix for most crappy 35mm theatres. These had differences in terms of sounds and a few bits of dialogue. (Beru's brief dialogue was re-recorded, "close the blast doors/open the blast doors!", 3PO added narrating the Death Star tractor beam map) That may be part of it.
The "New Hope" title was added in 1981, which required a redo of the opening crawl, resulting in slight timing issues with the music and visuals (ie: Tatooine doesn't appear as the music swells anymore).
Then the video releases had minor changes.
Also, back in the day, if a projectionist was sloppy or damaged a film reel they might just cut a bit out and splice it back on the reel, causing unexpected cuts.
I'd be really interested to see if there were other documented/verifiable alterations.
The "New Hope" title was added in 1981, which required a redo of the opening crawl, resulting in slight timing issues with the music and visuals (ie: Tatooine doesn't appear as the music swells anymore).
Then the video releases had minor changes.
Also, back in the day, if a projectionist was sloppy or damaged a film reel they might just cut a bit out and splice it back on the reel, causing unexpected cuts.
I'd be really interested to see if there were other documented/verifiable alterations.
Joek3rr
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Star Wars Home Video: Year by Year (Hosted by Nathan P. Butler)
In this (somewhat) shortform video series, Nathan P. Butler (author of "A Saga on Home Video" and host of "From the Star Wars Home Video Library") takes a br...
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This has been an interesting series to watch. He touches on the different pre-Special Edition versions.
joberg
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As a Belgian and a Canadian citizen, I saw SW in '77 in Brussels. Belgium is the only country that demanded 3 cuts of scenes deemed too "problematic" for the Censor Bureau. If those weren't cut, the movie wouldn't had have the General Admission that Lucas/20th Century Fox wanted. The Censor Bureau would've rated the movie at 14+.
Cut scenes:
1: Darth Vader crushing the wind pipe of that poor crew member.
2: The smoking skeletal remains of Luke's uncle/ant.
3: The severed arm on the ground shot in the cantina.
Later, after immigrating to Canada, I saw it on T.V. with these scenes. I was astonished, since I new the movie by heart, having seen it 30 times in one week at the initial Brussels' screening
As a Belgian and a Canadian citizen, I saw SW in '77 in Brussels. Belgium is the only country that demanded 3 cuts of scenes deemed too "problematic" for the Censor Bureau. If those weren't cut, the movie wouldn't had have the General Admission that Lucas/20th Century Fox wanted. The Censor Bureau would've rated the movie at 14+.
Cut scenes:
1: Darth Vader crushing the wind pipe of that poor crew member.
2: The smoking skeletal remains of Luke's uncle/ant.
3: The severed arm on the ground shot in the cantina.
Later, after immigrating to Canada, I saw it on T.V. with these scenes. I was astonished, since I new the movie by heart, having seen it 30 times in one week at the initial Brussels' screening
Wow, 30 times in one week? That's impressive.
In the USA the burned skeletons of Owen & Beru were always in the movie. But a lot of us seem to have mentally blocked it out as kids. When the movie came back to theaters in 1997 (the CGI special edition) a lot of people were convinced the skeletons were a new addition.
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