OK, so which one of you is Guy Raz?

[gjustis]

Niall, you know I love ya to death, and appreciate your openness here.

I'm doing my darndest not to comment on much of this stuff, as I've probably tried to do it one too many times here (ha!)....but I must say, this statement:

This is a sexual preference for these people-not a random chocie or crime.

is absolutely right on. It's very much like alcoholism...it's a problem of psychology, not morality. We can think of it this way: plenty of ex-sex offenders go on to commit other crimes like burglary and robbery, but rarely does it happen the other way 'round.

In fact, data speaking to this is often used in misleading ways....take this note from BOJ:

Compared to non-sex offenders released from State prisons, released sex offenders were 4 times more likely to be rearrested for a sex crime.

Read quickly, it sounds like it's saying that sex offenders are more likely to recidivate generally...what it's actually saying is that sex offenders are sometimes rearrested for another sex offense, but those that were incarcerated for another offense are much less likely to be rearrested for a sex crime.

One note I WILL mention is this: amongst sex offender populations specifically, recidivism rates tend to be higher for males that commit acts involving minors that they don't know (ie, non-family members, etc.; Raz would fit this picture). Amongst the broad spectrum of sex offenders, rates are lower than most expect....but, wide variation exists.

Watch...this'll somehow be framed negatively like the last time I opened my big mouth...:lol

 

[Kerr Avon]

So, besides raising a little paranoia, what good has this thread really done? If Matt "knows" that Raz is back, why not put forward his evidence to the mods privately, instead of publicly starting a witch hunt? This thread has been even more pointless than Enterpise D vs Star Destroyer threads.

 

[defstartrooper]

but you felt the need to add to the other 121 posts ?

 

[Treadwell]

moved to prop forum for the sake of new member awareness.

 

[MattMunson]

...for the sake of new member awareness.

The answer to Kerr's question.

PS, read the whole thread before asking questions that were already answered

 

[mgoob]

If you think he's here, that's good enough for me.

Like the other 'wackos' of this hobby, he can/ has messed with people's lives and jobs. I'm sure some of them are registered here due to their mental shortcomings.

Real world threat that should be dealt with.

For the record, I'm not probing the hypothetical with this thread.

GUY RAZ IS ON THE RPF.

No doubt in my mind.

 

[JoeR]

Niall, you know I love ya to death, and appreciate your openness here.

I'm doing my darndest not to comment on much of this stuff, as I've probably tried to do it one too many times here (ha!)....but I must say, this statement:



is absolutely right on. It's very much like alcoholism...it's a problem of psychology, not morality. We can think of it this way: plenty of ex-sex offenders go on to commit other crimes like burglary and robbery, but rarely does it happen the other way 'round.

In fact, data speaking to this is often used in misleading ways....take this note from BOJ:


Read quickly, it sounds like it's saying that sex offenders are more likely to recidivate generally...what it's actually saying is that sex offenders are sometimes rearrested for another sex offense, but those that were incarcerated for another offense are much less likely to be rearrested for a sex crime.

One note I WILL mention is this: amongst sex offender populations specifically, recidivism rates tend to be higher for males that commit acts involving minors that they don't know (ie, non-family members, etc.; Raz would fit this picture). Amongst the broad spectrum of sex offenders, rates are lower than most expect....but, wide variation exists.

Watch...this'll somehow be framed negatively like the last time I opened my big mouth...:lol

If you think he's here, that's good enough for me.

Like the other 'wackos' of this hobby, he can/ has messed with people's lives and jobs. I'm sure some of them are registered here due to their mental shortcomings.

Real world threat that should be dealt with.

Well said.

 

[PTK]

greeeaat!......i just join a forum to chat with other people about props, and maybe find some cool stuff or make some trades....and i find out that there is possibly a psycho that lives in a city about 10 minutes from my house that likes to start fights and get people fired.......awesome!

(what have i gotten myself into? :rolleyes)

 

[PHArchivist]

greeeaat!......i just join a forum to chat with other people about props, and maybe find some cool stuff or make some trades....and i find out that there is possibly a psycho that lives in a city about 10 minutes from my house that likes to start fights and get people fired.......awesome!

(what have i gotten myself into? :rolleyes)

Reverse your perspective.

Consider that many if not most on-line communities have some weirdos attached that most folks don't even know about... At least we're aware and can take precations...

 

[Blad]

This is unbearable.

I've been so busy with real-world stuff for the last few months, working every hour possible and having to ignore my fun 'hobby' because of work and ridiculous deadlines. When I finally have a few days with less pressure the sickening Raz reappears. A 'man' who tarnishes my profession (teacher) as well as my hobby.

Honestly, I think I might take up flower arranging.

 

[b26354]

Honestly, I think I might take up flower arranging.

wanting to be a florist is supposed to be bad

from Buffy s03e16:
Buffy: The Watcher Council shrink is heavy into tests. He's got tests
for everything. T.A.T.s, Rorschach, associative logic... (grunts and
sits up) He even has that test to see if you're crazy that asks if you
ever hear voices or you ever wanted to be a florist.
Willow: (looks over at Buffy) Ooo, I used to want... (reconsiders)Wait. Florist means crazy, right? (turns back to her pencil) I never wanted to do that.

 

[ssdesigner]

greeeaat!......i just join a forum to chat with other people about props, and maybe find some cool stuff or make some trades....and i find out that there is possibly a psycho that lives in a city about 10 minutes from my house that likes to start fights and get people fired.......awesome!

(what have i gotten myself into? :rolleyes)

I hope you are being EXTREMELY cynical....if you are not, then I suggest you hang around awhile before passing any judgment on this forum as a whole. As previously said, this forum protects and polices it's own, and it does so with much pride, better than alot of forums out there.

-Ss

 

[PTK]

I hope you are being EXTREMELY cynical....if you are not, then I suggest you hang around awhile before passing any judgment on this forum as a whole. As previously said, this forum protects and polices it's own, and it does so with much pride, better than alot of forums out there.

-Ss

yep, i was joking (hence the little eyeroll face thingy) i'm certainly not passing an judgement.

 

[ssdesigner]

I kinda figured you were, which is why I didn't go too kooky with my reply....even though this is a topic that, although I've remained silent in so far, I hold a bit of interest in. I was amongst the "fooled" by Raz with his semi-triumphant return....and therefore I guess you could say that I hold a bit of a grudge.

I personally think that our RPF member Kris should be put on a temp-ban. This isn't about how HE feels according to the laws in HIS land, it's about **** that this guy did in the US, against US laws. If Kris does not see that, he should be sternly reminded. If he does see this, and chooses to take his current stance, his membership should be in the same jeopardy as those who are banned for stealing and re-casting.

I don't speak out a lot here, although I'm a long time member, but that's my heart felt .02


-Ss

 

[Hermes]

Master SSDesigner, I agree with your assessment. That kid has been unnerving since the last Raz debacle, standing up for him, and though in another situation I might find that commendable, that tool just does NOT see that it is NOT commendable to defend a sexual predator, for God´s sake!

A temporary ban would be a good thing to rid US of that influence, to rid US of anyone who might even BEGIN to think of defending this foulness. I am glad and I am sorry that I am not a Mod to make this call, if I were, the call would be for a permanent ban on you, Kris.

I, like many others on the RPF, am a father. A father of a daughter of 2 years and nine months. As I speak here, she sleeps in her mother´s home, where she lives, clueless to the filth that lies in the world outside, clueless that there are peo.... sorry.... there are... ..... I don´t know what to say.... like this creature.

I am not sickened to my stomach, I am revolted down to the core of my soul for that person, and I would like to extend the mods and Admins a question: Just exactly WHY can´t you ban the whole of Pasadena? I mean.... the RPF is mundial, I understand, but couldn´t that be a deterrent?

Matt, we never spoke to one another, but I have always considered you to be just what you are - an upstanding member of the RPF, and you´ve done it again, however, why not talking to the Mods and Admins? I don´t mean OUT the ******* for all of the RPF to see, but bring the attention to them of the ONE you feel he is? I mean, I don´t know if Personal Messages are readable by the RPF Staff, but if this is what it takes, why not?

I am not a Republican, a Democrat, an American, even, I am from Brasília, Brasil, as you guys know, and I agree one hundred percent with the disclosing of personal information by the authorities and ONLY amongst them if it leads to the discovery of such a criminal.

I am sorry, RPF, but am I being too harsh? Am I being even too naïve?

I am a father, and God knows that it would take a LONG time after I caught any offender who might have so much as touched a strand of hair of hers before I employed lethal force. Pain is all they seek to inflict, all they seek to bring on to their victims´s lives, as Master BigDaddyVader said, and PAIN is what they deserve.

I am sorry, RPF, if this sounds too harsh, but being a father, you would know.

 

[Ti-el_terall]

Hey Matt thanks for the warning, I didnt know anything about this guy, and Im glad I know now. I hope that his false identy is found so that he can be removed from the forums.

 

[Darth_Nickel]

I don't know if it would be possible or not, but why not "turn the board off" for unregistered users (aka - no guests). There can still be open enrollment for members, but even guests can't ready for forums unless they are providing some information. Once open enrollment comes around, they can have a thread opened up to "upgrade access" to new member and we are right were we are today.

This would give the staff at least some clue as to the individuals reading/lurking in our community. Most importantly, it will provide an IP that can be compared to banned members IPs and help remove people. Sure it's not 100% accurate, but it may help keep unwanted individuals from taking information from our community.

To ease the burden on the staff, they can automate the process to register as a guest (email notifications and spam controls/instructions).

 

[defstartrooper]

I don't know if it would be possible or not, but why not "turn the board off" for unregistered users (aka - no guests). There can still be open enrollment for members, but even guests can't ready for forums unless they are providing some information. Once open enrollment comes around, they can have a thread opened up to "upgrade access" to new member and we are right were we are today.

This would give the staff at least some clue as to the individuals reading/lurking in our community. Most importantly, it will provide an IP that can be compared to banned members IPs and help remove people. Sure it's not 100% accurate, but it may help keep unwanted individuals from taking information from our community.

To ease the burden on the staff, they can automate the process to register as a guest (email notifications and spam controls/instructions).

I think any more measures than are currently in place wont serve to keep these people out, regardless of what measures you put in place there are ways around them and these people will use them.
Aside from that closing the board from being viewed by guests will only discourage genuine people from signing up,plus i think it serves a better purpose that these boards are visible by the public at large because they can see this thread and might recognise this Guy as someone who is on maybe another board or something somewhere else and they can pass on the warning.

 

[Blad]

I don't think the issue is who can see the board, it's who's registered.

If Raz is registered under a SP, then he could pm or email other members including minors. Although I don't believe he was ever accused of pursuing minors here.

Blocking the board to everyone who is not a member is overkill and blocking regions or areas equally so.

 

[Darth Clouds]

Just my 2 cents, since we do not have a fool proof method to screen and prevent entry;

1. How about issuing a notice to all members not to reveal their gender and age to any one on forums.

2. Put a notice on the PM interface to remind again.

3. Birth dates should not be required at registration?