Obi1kenny's Rebel Blaster prototype

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by obi1kenny, Sep 27, 2002.

  1. obi1kenny

    obi1kenny Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of Rebel Blasters, I finally have something to show off.
    I have been working on this project off and on now for a few months, while the rest of my prop group is busy building Fett rifles and Fett helmets. Anyhow from gathering info to scaling and drawing prints and the usual, I have gotten this far with my prototype. But I could still use more help on identifying or coming to some middle ground as to the basic detail of this ANH style gun.


    On to the pics. The sterling parts are from the one and only CHRIMA the great.

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    Well, thatÂ’s my progress so far, and itÂ’s still just my prototype.
    I would like to thank a few people for helping thus far. My buds, Goffcorp and Chrima, and special thanks to Chris (lonepigion) for supplying a few great pics and a bit of info, Richard (TK-818 ) for the awesome tutorial over on ASAP, letting me check out his gun first hand and answering a few question, John (jhyphen) for supplying a few pics too, weird huh. Also, again Wackychimp for the pic hosting [​IMG]
     
  2. Army Scout

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    * it Elvis,
    You have the same mouse pad I got!!!!

    Chris
     
  3. vader71

    vader71 Sr Member

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    That is a very cool blaster. How about better pictures of the one just to the right?
     
  4. obi1kenny

    obi1kenny Well-Known Member

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    vader71 wrote:
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    That is a very cool blaster. How about better pictures of the one just to the right?
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    Thanks.
    I had a thread up a while back on the Sterling metal/resin prototype kit that I was working on. But that was put on hold, so there's not much more to see. But I can't turn down a request.

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    http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=obi1kenny&album_id=82050&image_id=0&courtesy=1

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    I would really like some insight on the Rebel Blaster if anyone can add something I may not know as of yet. Thanks -Ken
     
  5. Chrima

    Chrima New Member

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    Hey Ken, looking great. Here is another piece of the puzzle.

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    The one on the left is the cast version. I used clear resin for the cone. It is kinda blurry because it was some old stock and it got alot of bubbles. The actual scopes cones will turn out much better. They will also have the black part imbeded in the clear cone too.

    Later
     
  6. wolverine solo

    wolverine solo Well-Known Member

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    lookin good, go for it.
     
  7. obi1kenny

    obi1kenny Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.

    Hey Chris, the scopes look great as always! but your red thing inside looks like it got bent.
     
  8. Shadowboss

    Shadowboss New Member

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    WOW Ken that fantastic!!! [​IMG]
     
  9. kimncris

    kimncris Well-Known Member

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    Both of those guns are looking awesome!

    (he..he...we have the same mouse pad too- but uor audience is still watching a blank screen [​IMG] )

    BTW- One of you last 3 guys needs to check your HTML or BB code!!!

    -cris
     
  10. vaderdarth

    vaderdarth Master Member

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    Kenny
    keep me posted on the sterling rep kit if possible.....
    Dave [​IMG]
     
  11. Methos007

    Methos007 New Member

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    Sorry for the dissappearance and what seems to be random editing. The issue was caused by a signature. I have removed it and informed the member. Hopefully we can figure out what happened in order to get that sig back asap.
     
  12. obi1kenny

    obi1kenny Well-Known Member

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    Thank Methos007, you're alright...no matter what Neil says about you!

    Humm, looks like it was Chris.
     
  13. wolverine solo

    wolverine solo Well-Known Member

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    told you it wasnt me.
     
  14. obi1kenny

    obi1kenny Well-Known Member

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    sure WS [​IMG] Oh, and thanks for the other great comments.


    OK, back to the Rebel Blaster.

    This is about the best source picture I have been able to find and used it a little bit to scale off of. So what the hell is that crap on the side of the scope rail?

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    Could we be looking at more parts from the V8 model kit? Just come kind of funny rod that was placed there or is it really a wiper blade?
     
  15. gavidoc

    gavidoc Well-Known Member

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    looks like a resin cast blaster and the part that ahs snapped was a resin copy of a washerblade that has broken.
     
  16. TK818

    TK818 Well-Known Member

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    Not quite on the Single Point.
    That's the old style SP:

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    To make it accurate you need the front cone, an orange "stem" and the covers for the adjustment knobs:

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    You remove the front dome cone, cut down the red sight and add the red stem.

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    It should look like this:

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    Here's my DH17:

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    With holster:

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  17. TK818

    TK818 Well-Known Member

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    On that DH17 pic.
    I think it could be a stunt body from ANH but the scope and rings were probably added later.
    The rings are the wrong type and they used real Single Points in ANH.

    I think the strip that runs along the side of the scope rail is grip material (same for the saber and Sterling barrel).
    It looks like it was removed or fell off and left a glue mark.
    To bad we don't have a shot of the other side.
     
  18. Methos007

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    The Signature has been fixed sorry for any troubles that caused anyone
     
  19. obi1kenny

    obi1kenny Well-Known Member

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    looks like a resin cast blaster and the part that ahs snapped was a resin copy of a washerblade that has broken.
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    OK, this sounds like a good theory.
    I think everyone agrees that this is a resin stunt blaster and that that is basically what was used in the movie, the think trigger guard without trigger.

    I like the looks of the wiper blade on the side of the scope rail, gives it a nice clean look to it. Still looks like it could be a small rectangular greeblie at the front of the rail side then a rod or broken resin blade down the rest of the side.

    Also, looks to possibly be an extra slotted screw run threw the back sight to maybe hold the rail on place before it was cast. ItÂ’s much bigger than the step on the real sterling back sight. Just speculation too.

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    Also, the scope rings on this resin blaster are incorrect and believe to be added years later with another solid resin scope.
     
  20. obi1kenny

    obi1kenny Well-Known Member

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    Richard,
    You typed your response before I got my theory posted.

    On the single point scope that Chrima has copied, I believe that the real scope on the right is a loner from Chris James, but donÂ’t know if the tip is an add-on or what.
     
  21. TK818

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    The real mystery are the gold greblies behind the scope.
    Circled here in blue:

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  22. TK818

    TK818 Well-Known Member

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    "On the single point scope that Chrima has copied, I believe that the real scope on the right is a loner from Chris James, but donÂ’t know if the tip is an add-on or what."

    Chris has one of the VERY old Single Points.
    The cone is the right shape but it's not clear and the mount for the red strip is different.

    There were at least 4 versions of the Single Point.

    The one used in ANH was the late version.

    Castings of the dome Single Point may have been used in ESB.
     
  23. TK818

    TK818 Well-Known Member

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    By the way, the scope on the stunt blaster is the correct scope but they molded it without the protective caps on the
    windage and elevation knobs.

    Which is interesting because that's what they did for most of the ESB blasters (including the Scout Trooper pistol).
    The scope rings are also the ESB type.
    I wonder if that blaster is an ESB blaster they made using an ANH stunt body.
     
  24. blaydrunner

    blaydrunner New Member

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    Nice work Kenny!!!!!! Keep us posted with your progress!!!!

    Cheers!
    GL
     
  25. lonepigeon

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    Actually those scope rings are the ROTJ type, not ESB.
    From what I've heard about that blaster it's a real ANH, but was missing the scope and rings. Whoever replaced them probably looked at ROTJ pics for reference.

    Here's the ESB for comparison:
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    It uses several model parts for detail including a couple from the V8. The camshaft and a part I JUST found looking at the pics again. the tip of the top rail is part #62-H of the V-8.
    Time to go add one more to the page!

    PS- the V8 kit parts don't show up until ESB props, so none of them are on the ANH.
     
  26. TK626

    TK626 New Member

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    Ob1kenny and TK818:
    Have either of you visited the Planet Hollywood in South Lake Tahoe? The last time I was up there (3-4 weeks ago), I was surprised to see that they had a resin one that the plaque claimed was screen used. Then again, they had a picture of stormtroopers holding E-11s behind it and called it a stormtrooper blaster, so I'd take this claim with a grain of salt. [​IMG] Sadly, I didn't have my camera with me then, so I couldn't even tell you which side of the gun was showing. Or is this old news to you?

    Nick

    EDIT: Forgot to mention how nice your blaster looks. [​IMG] I hope to see it in person at the next prop party.
     
  27. TK818

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    And what's up with this part:

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    It looks like a rear blade site turned sideways.

    I wish we had a shot of the other side of the blaster to see if the clip housing is cut away.

    Oh, yes, that's the scope ring from ROTJ not ESB and ANH, my brain just stopped working for a second there : )
     
  28. TK818

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    Here are some other mystery parts on the right side of the Imperial DH17:

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    They sort of look like wire connectors.
     
  29. lonepigeon

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    The pic I posted of the ESB is from Planet Hollywood.
    It's real, or at least cast from a real one (the props were resin anyway). There's a famous publicity shot of Billy Dee from ESB that shows this blaster very well.
    I'll have to did through my pics of other model kits. I might be able to come up with that missle on the side of the ESB DH-17.
    Someone on the Scale Modelling Forum could probably figure it out quick too.
     
  30. soilman

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    I made a real quick one out of PVC and toy parts. It is no where close to acurate but I like it. The next one will be better.
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    Can anyone guess what the grip of the gun was made from? [​IMG]
     
  31. obi1kenny

    obi1kenny Well-Known Member

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    Nick, Thanks for the info. It looks like Chris is saying that that last pic of the ESB style is that same one. Or I might have had to take a drive up that way.


    Richard, Speaking of that part on the Imperial blaster, is that the only place on the movie that is shows up is in the detention block? I know you guys have looked at this on laser disk, so does it show up any better there or did you catch any thing new the last time you saw ANH, like at the Spangler threater?
     
  32. reaper63

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    Soilman, That is the GI Joe version of the LAser Tag Blaster. The old versions of the game.


    The Blaster is looking great! I love it!!!

    Great Job!
     
  33. Cenobyte

    Cenobyte Sr Member

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    Nice job. Metal makes the difference
     
  34. obi1kenny

    obi1kenny Well-Known Member

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    I just came across this small pic in the new Star Wars Insider. ItÂ’s for the new series of CCG cards. Does anyone collect these or have access to these cards yet?

    IÂ’d like to get a large scan off of this card and see if it can pick up any more detail on the back side of this gun.

    [​IMG]

    EDIT: I would still like to get a good scan of this new Gameing card.
     
  35. Corellianexports

    Corellianexports Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Kenny,
    Great, great job on the rebel blaster.

    TK818,
    Here is a photo of my singlepoint scope. I think this may be the later version you mentioned that was used in ANH:

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    Here's a closeup of the front cone:

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  36. Bothan Jedi

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    I believe that's still not the correct scope. I have one of these. The clone is the correct shape (but fogged from age) but the correct one used had screw on caps. TK818 has one so I'm sure he'll post pictures [​IMG]

    All this talk and new discoveries reminds me of when Boba Debt first started to research and crank out Han blasters. I think we remember how mixed up the earlier attempts where. [​IMG]

    I'm assuming Richard/TK818 is aiming for the ANH blaster as it's been his pet project for years. [​IMG]
     
  37. TK818

    TK818 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that's the early style scope.
    Here is the correct version:

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    The main difference is the caps for the windage and elevation knobs.
    The late model scope has metal screw on caps rather than the pop on rubber caps.
     
  38. TK818

    TK818 Well-Known Member

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    These threads need to be combined and archived!
     

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