Ninth Gate Balkan Lecture Lobby Card

[kalkamel]

 

[mrwax]

To be fair, the amount of data reverse image searches have available now is much larger than it was 10+ years ago. If anything, it's a good reminder that sometimes the same techniques are worth trying again if the environment has changed.

 

[RafalFett]

Edit: Hey RafalFett...... have 30 mins to spare?

A quick work for now (the font is close enough), but I'll have to look at the movie to do some better screencaps and eventually a better job:

 

[Odin82]

Please don't get mad but it only took about 10 min. I searched the traditional way for about 5 min and didn't find much that yall didn't discover. Ultimately I brought up the movie, screenshotted the title card and did a reverse image search. Popped up immediately on an auction site. I think I spent more time posting the darn image than locating it.
I'm so sorry guys, I truly admire your dedication to the hunt. You guys are the legends.

What year/month was the auction? Any reverse image searches/google lens for me never worked when trying it. I was even searching before Christmas too. But have neglected my ebay.fr saved searches for it.

You're a wizard aren't you?

Seriously man, kudos, and I'm delighted it only took you ten minutes to bring so much happiness to a bunch of us here! I woke up in the middle of last night and loaded up the RPF, and saw a notification... thought I was dreaming!

 

[Odin82]

A quick work for now (the font is close enough), but I'll have to look at the movie to do some better screencaps and eventually a better job:

That's fantastic man!.

If you haven't seen the film, it's quite a good watch... but don't read past this point as it has spoilers.



So now, sidequest for everyone (This hunt WILL NEVER END!)... lets find the photos on the wall in the hotel room where Green Eyes and Corso are chatting. The photos have some symbolism if I remember correctly.

In this world, everything is a symbol, and every symbol yields to interpretation. Coincidence is excluded. The Girl appears at a lecture on demons and medieval literature, and camera looks at her exactly at the moment when Balkan, the lecturer, gives a definition of “witch”. The faces in the three-century-old engravings are those of the characters. The codes Balkan punches on the keypads are, invariably, 666. The femme fatale smokes Black Devils. The camera repeatedly fixes on Shell Oil Logo (symbol of Aphrodite, who is associated with The Whore of Babylon and, via her other symbol - the Morning Star - with Lucifer himself). In France, Corso drives a Chrysler Dodge Viper (viper is already significant enough, plus Chrysler logo is a pentagram; the color – red – also matters). Before the end, Corso hikes a ride in a truck with sheep (his antiXmas). The postcard of the Devil’s Tower has The Girl’s photo as a stamp.There are scores of those, scattered all over the movie, but I think I’ve discovered the following one myself (I don’t remember ever seeing anyone mentioning it): the picture in Corso’s hotel room in Paris is an old engraving of Porte St.Martin (St.Martin being the maiden name of Lianna Telfer, and the castle where the devil worship takes place), I think this:

Only one on that site is this, but pretty small quality. (The analysis is a great read - Roman Polanski)

Also checked the Soubrier site, and it's not a piece in their collection for rent. Last time I tried searching for it, couldn't find it... but well... my searching skills aren't the best it seems



I had found it here before , but the picture is even smaller. IIRC, I tried scraping the page with JDownloader to see if there was a bigger version on the server, but no luck.

 

[bmcdowell]

I'll do some research.

Side note, the poster card in question appears to be 12x18 portrait and have come to that by various means. This is also just the book cover, not the bronze/gold backer.
1. Johnny Depp is 5'10 like me and found the average head height for that size is about 9inches. Confirmed with my head.
2. Allowing for some error since he is closer to the foreground than the poster, this scales pretty close to 18in tall
3. Using that I could find the width using the scale getting ~12in.
4. Making a markup on some paper, the positioning of the left elbow and about the lip if looking straight ahead aligns with my proportions.
5. You can buy a print with RafalFett's design and have no scaling issues for about $15-16 on Staples.

 

[Knightmare]

Gonna make some 11x17 and super thick

 

[Odin82]

Google babe.. what did I do to hurt you...

I can't even get a Google lens match, even using the new Hi-Res pic

 

[Odin82]

Printed the pics out on A3 earlier this morning after a spot of photoshopping. Hugely delighted with the result.

Kudos to BmcDowell again for discovering it!

 

[bmcdowell]

Ok Odin82, quest complete. The one above the headboard was easy to find as well as opposite of the bed, picture on left; these are both from a collection called Paris dans sa Splendeur 1863. The other picture opposite of the bed, picture on right was a little more trickier; its called Paris Saint Paul and Saint Louis Church 1861 - Phillipe Benoist. These are the only three pictures I saw in the room in all 3 scenes. Best shot of all 3 start at 1:15:30

Paris dans sa Splendeur: 1863 - Colonne de la Grande Armee (opposite wall, left)


Paris dans sa Splendeur: Porte and Boulevard Saint Denis (above headboard)


Paris Saint Paul and Saint Louis Church 1861 - Phillipe Benoist (opposite wall, right)

 

[Odin82]

May I direct you towards a paper prop thread called 1408....... there's a few paintings left to be identified!

 

[Reckoner]

I'm still new here and rarely post, but I've spent probably 20 hours looking for that image over the past few months. So glad it's been found. Nice work, bmcdowell!

 

[MAKE BELIEVE]

I'll do some research.

Side note, the poster card in question appears to be 12x18 portrait and have come to that by various means. This is also just the book cover, not the bronze/gold backer.
1. Johnny Depp is 5'10 like me and found the average head height for that size is about 9inches. Confirmed with my head.
2. Allowing for some error since he is closer to the foreground than the poster, this scales pretty close to 18in tall
3. Using that I could find the width using the scale getting ~12in.
4. Making a markup on some paper, the positioning of the left elbow and about the lip if looking straight ahead aligns with my proportions.
5. You can buy a print with RafalFett's design and have no scaling issues for about $15-16 on Staples.

 

[MAKE BELIEVE]

Ok Odin82, quest complete. The one above the headboard was easy to find as well as opposite of the bed, picture on left; these are both from a collection called Paris dans sa Splendeur 1863. The other picture opposite of the bed, picture on right was a little more trickier; its called Paris Saint Paul and Saint Louis Church 1861 - Phillipe Benoist. These are the only three pictures I saw in the room in all 3 scenes. Best shot of all 3 start at 1:15:30

Paris dans sa Splendeur: 1863 - Colonne de la Grande Armee (opposite wall, left)
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Paris dans sa Splendeur: Porte and Boulevard Saint Denis (above headboard)
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Paris Saint Paul and Saint Louis Church 1861 - Phillipe Benoist (opposite wall, right)
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[MAKE BELIEVE]

Used an old frame I had at home to see how it turns out.
Will print the 3 images on a larger scale and try to get some closer frames to this one

 

[RafalFett]

Here's a better version of the poster (this should print at 500 x 330 mm):

 

[MAKE BELIEVE]

I think I found the image used for the Winston criminal record file:
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The 1st image was cropped from this photo from the media section:
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And because that image has the glare/reflection from the glass, I will replace that photo with the color one (of course made as grayscale) and will also add the missing background.

I'll do some research.

Side note, the poster card in question appears to be 12x18 portrait and have come to that by various means. This is also just the book cover, not the bronze/gold backer.
1. Johnny Depp is 5'10 like me and found the average head height for that size is about 9inches. Confirmed with my head.
2. Allowing for some error since he is closer to the foreground than the poster, this scales pretty close to 18in tall
3. Using that I could find the width using the scale getting ~12in.
4. Making a markup on some paper, the positioning of the left elbow and about the lip if looking straight ahead aligns with my proportions.
5. You can buy a print with RafalFett's design and have no scaling issues for about $15-16 on Staples.

On post #97 you said it poped up on an auction site. Auction sites always inform the measurements of the items so let us know what auction site that was and we'll have the correct measurements.

 

[bmcdowell]

On post #97 you said it poped up on an auction site. Auction sites always inform the measurements of the items so let us know what auction site that was and we'll have the correct measurements.

[CARTOUCHE]. RAGOT DE GRANVAL. Le Vice puni,... - Lot 19 - Pierre Bergé & Associés

Remember, this is from a book and the lobby card will have been a blown up version from the original.

 

[MAKE BELIEVE]

Yeap. Forgot it was from a book...

 

[Brigandia36]

I think I have what you're looking for. Hope this helps, its called 7th song from page53 of Ragot De Granval , Le Vice Puni

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/578853358374677392/

Nothing is impossible ! GG !