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Skotbot2099
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September 8 2015 is the official release date for the nike air mags with self lacing tech $350 price point also!!!!
it is official!!!
it is official!!!
airair
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$350 for a power laced shoe? i doubt it.
there is no official confirmation of anything.
Its always blogs and websites spouting information without any facts!
Richard
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Skotbot2099: Where did you read that? It's the first I read of a release date. I'll never understand how movie studios think. If Nike and/or Universal wanted to wait until the Fall of 2015, the release date should be later in October. I'm an "obsessive" Ghostbusters fan. Sony didn't re-re-lease the anniversary screenings until Labor Day. Uh, Ghostbusters came out in June 1984. I think that was more for marketing as the new blu-rays will be out next week. Semantics I guess as both franchises are and will be within their 30th anniversary years.
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Skotbot2099
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Hey Richard! My buddy owns a high end shoe store in NYC and he gets all the release dates and the shoes for the up coming year (he has to buy a certain dollar amount to keep his store at that status) and he knows how huge of a back to the future nut, nike should be releasing a press release within the next 6 months!!! I'm guessing they want to do it around the same time they released the Parkinson's edition mags since they can out early sept 2011 but I feel you on the October date would be better!! But who cares there are coming out in a limited run like the retro jordans so they will go fast but accessible to normal humans with real jobs and not $4000+
Also so the reason for the $350 is there making a pretty large run
Also so the reason for the $350 is there making a pretty large run
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Skotbot2099
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Have to remember that was for a good charity auction and nike loves money
I hope they choose translucent white rubber for the soles. I wasn't a fan of the ice blue.
DL4567
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I don't believe anything at this point. But there do seem to be some rumors circulating.
http://www.kicksonfire.com/2014/09/10/september-8-2015-huge-day-nike/
http://hypebeast.com/2014/9/is-nike-on-track-to-release-the-mag-2015-on-september-8-2015
http://www.kicksonfire.com/2014/09/10/september-8-2015-huge-day-nike/
http://hypebeast.com/2014/9/is-nike-on-track-to-release-the-mag-2015-on-september-8-2015
cavx
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airair
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for $350 you are right. no chance in hell can Nike afford to put in a complex lacing system AND lighting system and then sell it for $350.
$350 is probably for a shoe without lighting.
If they do put them out for $350 with lace system AND lighting, then a lot of people who payed thousands of dollars in 2011 and after will not be happy.
I just can't see it.
The bottom line is profit.
I doubt Nike is that kind to put out a wide general release of a power laced shoe!
Almost all of their main releases are limited editions designed to keep the price high and increase value.
Releasing hundreds and thousands of pairs of complex electronics, battery, and lacing system for $350 is highly unlikely.
cavx
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What about warranty? If I recall, NIKE gave just 4 months and one free return for any faults in that 4 month time frame. After that, you were on your own. Imagine at $350 how many broken wires there would be because people actually wore these out or played sport in them?
On the weekend passed, I wore my shoes to the Oz Comic Con with no issue until and the moment I stepped foot onto the Time Machine stand and my left shoe starts to blink - yep, broke a wire and my wire is like 18 gauge which is way thicker than what will be in the RD MAG shoes (not to mention the V2 MAG). I was able to repair it that night, but goes to show how easy things like this can happen. During the repair, I dislodged a connection on the front LED of the left shoe and I can't fix that unless I rip the soles off. Based on the way the last side sections tore apart, this would be a total write off if I attempt a removal.
Luck is on my side though because the spare I have (very first sole I made) just happens to be the spare lefty for the side I need
Exactly and people can say how it was all for charity and all that, but yeah, you'd be PO'd too if you paid $4K+ for an item only to be able to buy a better version later for about 10% of the price. Not gonna happen. The money machine that is NIKE is smarter than that. If there is a limited run of "power laced" MAGs, bet they are auctioned off with a 5 figure price tag.
Power Lacing might actually find its way to a consumer product at a realistic price (and I hope it does), but it won't be the NIKE MAG.
airair
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What about warranty? If I recall, NIKE gave just 4 months and one free return for any faults in that 4 month time frame. After that, you were on your own. Imagine at $350 how many broken wires there would be because people actually wore these out or played sport in them?
On the weekend passed, I wore my shoes to the Oz Comic Con with no issue until and the moment I stepped foot onto the Time Machine stand and my left shoe starts to blink - yep, broke a wire and my wire is like 18 gauge which is way thicker than what will be in the RD MAG shoes (not to mention the V2 MAG). I was able to repair it that night, but goes to show how easy things like this can happen. During the repair, I dislodged a connection on the front LED of the left shoe and I can't fix that unless I rip the soles off. Based on the way the last side sections tore apart, this would be a total write off if I attempt a removal.
Luck is on my side though because the spare I have (very first sole I made) just happens to be the spare lefty for the side I need
Exactly and people can say how it was all for charity and all that, but yeah, you'd be PO'd too if you paid $4K+ for an item only to be able to buy a better version later for about 10% of the price. Not gonna happen. The money machine that is NIKE is smarter than that. If there is a limited run of "power laced" MAGs, bet they are auctioned off with a 5 figure price tag.
Power Lacing might actually find its way to a consumer product at a realistic price (and I hope it does), but it won't be the NIKE MAG.
whilst on the subject of power lacing.
If you look at Blake bevins power lace V1 and V2 that is pretty much exactly the setup required for emulating the Movie shoe lacing system.
The Top half lace (instead of the strap) tightens first, then the bottom laces tighten, then a light comes on.
A small button is also attached to untighten everything.
I've been analysing the way its been done, and its doable once you reduce the size of the arduino controller or use something equivalent thats smaller. The only problem is that you need to reduce the size of the motor shield (which allows you to use 2 servos), which is exactly the way to do it. The first motor tightens up the strap, the second motor tightens up the bottom laces.
It took me a while to understand how the hell this arduino thing works, but i now understand it.
All you have to do is reduce the size of that arduino controller, and the motor shield, and try and reduce the size of the servos so that they can fit in the soles. You don't even need much length in the laces to do the tightening, just a small length of say 4cm or so. The same with the strap.
So basically, as soon as you can work out how to reduce that arduino controller and motor shield into a small compact size, the lacing system can be done without much issues.
It may mean creating a sole from scratch though, so all the components fit in.
I believe Blake Bevin made 3D printed customised parts and probably custom designed circuit boards printed to reduce the size to miniature.
On her last version, I believe she did away completely with 2 motors, just sticking to 1 motor for a single set of laces.
The arduino motor shield is huge as is the main board, although you can get smaller boards. If there is a mini motor shield, that would be great.
An alternative to Bevin's system is to come up with a manual or wind up system, but you will still need something to inform the shoe to turn the lights on after everythings laced.
No it's not that. I just would like movie accuracy.
cavx
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Yes. Even on that experimental thing I did, the ankle strap needed to be secured first or the system failed.
There was a 3rd video (not sure if it was Blake's work or not) that looked about as compact as this can be. The laces didn't move much and I guess as long as you can slip of your foot into the shoe, they don't need to. The problem with the MAG being a tall high top is that I can't get my foot into the shoe with the ankle strap connected to the inner side of the buckle. It just pops out suggesting that the strap should be a bit longer. if you have a longer strap you need more space to store the excess.
A wind up system like Puma Disc from 1991 could work. Just where do you put that part. Maybe on the side like the concept drawings of the MAG show.
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Wouldn't we all. I am sure there was a reason NIKE did the blue.
cavx
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Hope this is not the V3.
http://www.halloweencostumes.com/back-to-the-future-2-light-up-shoes.html
http://www.halloweencostumes.com/back-to-the-future-2-light-up-shoes.html
I don't know, but they look different haha
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