NIKE MAG Knockoffs

[AlexBC]

I'm eager to see Cloneprops' release his Mags once his schedule is quieter and he has more time to devote to that. His shoes are almost indistinguishable from the 2011s.

Though Clone's are going to be several hundreds of dollars. I guess Red's will also be as expensive?

 

[MRBATHINGAPE]

I have a feeling Red's will be just as good or better than the real deals. Plus, he's working for a finish date at approximately 2 weeks.

 

[Red Aeternum NW]

I'm eager to see Cloneprops' release his Mags once his schedule is quieter and he has more time to devote to that. His shoes are almost indistinguishable from the 2011s.

Though Clone's are going to be several hundreds of dollars. I guess Red's will also be as expensive?

I will diclose all information once the initial pair is completed. I can say that it will be coming as a package deal, shoes and box both (if you couldn't tell from my earlier post.) They won't be $130 Chinese shoes, I will tell you that, but they won't be $5,000+ either as the originals.

I guess to leak a little more information, the initial pair I am creating are size 9.5 but I am already in the works of sizing for 10, 11, 12 and 13. I am also working on prototype kids sizes. Again, as I stated previously, I am doing a few things that nobody has done yet.

You read it here first, note the time and date stamp so if anybody later on says they have created he first kids sized 2011 Air Mag.

 

[AlexBC]

So, is it two weeks to the reveal of a prototype or two weeks to the point where you can start shipping these out?

 

[Red Aeternum NW]

Two weeks when the prototype 9.5 will be complete. As far as production goes that is another story. I need enough orders to warrant the production costs. My cost into this so far is over what I was hoping. If I made all 9.5's then I wouldn't need so many orders. To produce different sizes, I would need twice as many orders paid for...because let's face it, we aren't all size 9.5 (I'm a 14 and I will not be making a shoe for myself). Any one-off custom sizes will cost more....and ****, I was throwing around the idea of making a Shaq sized 23 just for the hell of it. SCRAPPED that, unless the big guy himself would sign the shoe and I can sell it for BOOKOO BUCKS

 

[cavx]

You read it here first, note the time and date stamp so if anybody later on says they have created he first kids sized 2011 Air Mag.

Don't know if this counts but during the many paper 3D models, I made a pair paper mags for my 5YO. I was supposed to make him foam ones, but thought it better to finish my own first.

He walked around the house wearing his paper MAGs and loved them. Then he went and taped them to a piece of paper so he could stick them to his wall.

 

[punisher]

Because a big tube just for shoes is a waste of space. A foam padded box offers better protection too. And seeing how the tube in the movie could be used for anything and is too big for just one pair of shoes, it's certain that the shoes had their own box before Doc put them in the tube.

Who said anything about me thinking a tube box was of any use either? :lol I think they are too cool to have stored on anything buy a lighted acrylic display pedestal but to each his own.

Brad, I was just messing around with a spare buckle I had laying around, I think I need to go easy on the weathering on the actual pair or either make it slightly cartoony but definitely with a stencil but I dont think this was bad for a 5 minute paint job!
I've decided Im 85% positive that I'm going to do the Fettmags at this point. If I do, Ill just take what Ive got so far with my current ones.

Do you have any suggestions as to how I should do the weathering to make it fit more with the cleanliness of the shoes?

 

[AlexBC]

So, assuming the target of the 10th was indeed met, this very minute there are boxes upon boxes of newly made Mags sitting in warehouses waiting to be shipped out to the various stores.

opcorn

 

[Red Aeternum NW]

Don't know if this counts but during the many paper 3D models, I made a pair paper mags for my 5YO. I was supposed to make him foam ones, but thought it better to finish my own first.

He walked around the house wearing his paper MAGs and loved them. Then he went and taped them to a piece of paper so he could stick them to his wall.

Awesome! Although I am certainly working on a kids version, full on production probably wont ever happen. I dont see there ever being enough interest for the price I would have to sell them for.

 

[cavx]

2000 yeah!

I've decided Im 85% positive that I'm going to do the Fettmags at this point. If I do, Ill just take what Ive got so far with my current ones.

Do you have any suggestions as to how I should do the weathering to make it fit more with the cleanliness of the shoes?

I like the look of the top/middle one. If I was to do this, that would be the way I'd do mine.

So, assuming the target of the 10th was indeed met, this very minute there are boxes upon boxes of newly made Mags sitting in warehouses waiting to be shipped out to the various stores.opcorn

Yep and one pair has my name on them and several others have yours and Jedifyfe's name on them

Awesome! Although I am certainly working on a kids version, full on production probably wont ever happen. I dont see there ever being enough interest for the price I would have to sell them for.

That will always be the limiting factor to any kids shoes - their feet grow too fast for many to want to spend big $$$ on shoes that a kid might only wear for 3~6months.

The purpose of the exercise was to test that scaling actually worked and smaller shoes are easier to print on A4 paper.

My youngest boy has grown out of his Jordan's (got them for $20 for him from a NIKE outlet) and now wears his older brothers. At the rate his feet are growing, I might as well just make him a set of 10's like mine for him to grow into :lol

 

[cloneprops]

I'm eager to see Cloneprops' release his Mags once his schedule is quieter and he has more time to devote to that. His shoes are almost indistinguishable from the 2011s.

Though Clone's are going to be several hundreds of dollars. I guess Red's will also be as expensive?

I see a lot of expectations...Most of pleople knows my project(a year project, Im the slowlest!!) and I put all the process of molding ,modelling parts, designing and testing materials(yes,is more important the materials used for wearing!) guys, is not easy to made that shoe,my work is easily confirmed only entering in my mags blogs viewing videos and photos of all the process:

www.cloneprops.blogspot.com

I dont making "air" .my stuff is real
and mostly of the people here in Forum, honestly, I think that must be more practical, and believe the things that can be seen.
I dont trust at the things that cant be seen.... Its too easy to put in words that the chinese mags arriving in two weeks(that so funny messages of the chinese webs), or put that any can have an extraordinary mags in all sizes in two weeks, sorry is not for making fights an confrontations between mags builders, is only a matter to avoid false expectations to the rest of people that waiting and hoping a 100% accurate mags.
MY CONCLUSION: guys,believe that all you can see and be demonstrable with facts/photos/videos ect,I prefer FACTS than hopes.

 

[cavx]

a year project, Im the slowlest!!

Good things take time. You've raised the bar so high, you are with a doubt the best at this. I mean that

 

[cloneprops]

Good things take time. You've raised the bar so high, you are with a doubt the best at this. I mean that

Thanks cavx, but honestly I think that the most of mags builders like jedyfyfe and the rest, are continously posting every new upgrade, any progress,new material test, new ways of developing parts, ect. Imagine that all of people waiting to have the final work to post... With that situation nobody learns and RPF forum would not be useful to the users.

 

[AlexBC]

True. Therpf works best when people share and learn.

 

[cavx]

When it comes to MAG builders, I think you (cloneprops) are the ONLY true MAG builder as every other MAG project has used parts from an existing MAG copy shoes.

My own pair (far from accurate, but I am still proud of them) still uses the mid-sole of a pair of V1 K-MAGs as I was able to build my own at that time. I learned how sew and how to Vac Form just to make some of the parts and experimented with casting to make the clear soles. They are not accurate and certainly not perfect by any stretch, yet I am still proud of them and why I kept posting updates for some 7 months.

So whilst there are many great MAGs out there, yours are the ONLY pair that I know are 100% scratch built and not a conversion of an existing pair.

 

[Red Aeternum NW]

I have something to respond to each of you:

Cloneprops, I see where you are coming from and it is true. One should believe and have hope in what they can see...an actualy finished piece, rather than tall tales and specific deadlines. I say two weeks, I mean that...but none of you know me well enough yet to know I am not bs'ing so it is understandable that everyone has their doubts. On another note, as far as sharing of information...why should I put out trade secrets that most Mag builders already know the general concept of? There are only so many ways to sew an upper, so many ways to cast a sole, so many ways to vacform, etc. Everything is posted already except for a few things here and there that I implemented. Why is it bad that I wait until the prototype is finished to give details?

Cavx, in regard to the kids shoes...yes, that is an issue. Until teen years where shoes may be worn for 6-8 months at a time, it just isnt feasible to produce a kids size. Maybe for the sake of just doing it, but unless I am selling to highly paid politicians I dont think your "average Joe" would want to buy them. As for your comment on cloneprops making his own parts...I too am making everything from scratch, not a MP conversion or any other parts from shoes available. Until I show the shoes, I know you take what I say with a grain of salt, but once I make them public you can change that to 2 people that built Mags from scratch

 

[MitasTouch]

Even if big secrets were revealed, most people wouldn't have the skills or enough money to do them.

 

[AlexBC]

Then again, if everyone knows the method then it's not a secret. It would be great if you could show us your progress. Though, I can understand if you're just not comfortable showing half completed stuff and would rather wait to show a completed item.

Unless you're recasting an RD...just kidding.

 

[Jedifyfe]

Guys, just let him make his Mags. There is no reason to carry on worrying about how he will make his shoes. I agree with Red, there are only so many ways to skin a cat, so I will be interested in seeing the final product.

Now where are these damn knockoff shoes????

 

[Red Aeternum NW]

Then again, if everyone knows the method then it's not a secret. It would be great if you could show us your progress. Though, I can understand if you're just not comfortable showing half completed stuff and would rather wait to show a completed item.


Unless you're recasting an RD...just kidding.

It's not just the fact that I don't want to show off an imcomplete product, it has more to do with me not wanting people to steal some things. I won't be selling any part of my shoe as a kit or in pieces...if you want one part, you'll have to buy the whole thing. I have worked and reworked several times the light setup on my shoes to implement a few things that I don't think have been implemented yet EXCEPT FOR the RD version of these shoes **BTW, if I spent $5000 on the RD, I certainly would not tear it all apart to recast it!)

Yes, people figured out how to put lights in their shoes, THAT isn't a huge feat to overcome. And yes, cloneprops made a rechargable battery setup much like the original. BUT I stemmed off on a different branch. Not only do I have a rechargable battery setup, BUT the light setup mimics the RD and this took quite a few times to finally get down pat.

Guys, just let him make his Mags. There is no reason to carry on worrying about how he will make his shoes. I agree with Red, there are only so many ways to skin a cat, so I will be interested in seeing the final product.

Now where are these damn knockoff shoes????

Thanks, good to know someone sees eye to eye.... too am interested for the knockoffs. I suppose we will have to wait until Monday.

My main question would be.....if they were supposed to have hundreds and hundreds of pairs already made and then claimed to need to make some revisions, why wouldn't they have made those revisions before all the pairs were made? It seems a bit goofy to backtrack and revise hundreds of pairs already made.