New Muppet show?

http://www.polygon.com/2015/4/3/8340563/muppet-show-revival-abc-big-bang-theory

I want this so bad.

It'll happen if we all think it hard enough, right?

 

It's only good news if the show turns out to be good. These last few installments of the Muppet line hasn't been up to par, to say the least. However, Muppets: Most Wanted was better than that last one, but it wasn't much of a competition.

 

Sadly I think the Muppets time has come and gone........

 

True, sad but true...the last couple of movies are not very good. The Muppet most wanted wasn't too bad. I think the real actor cast helped save it. They just can't seem to get the magic right. I still laugh and enjoy the old Muppet show and movies. Most Muppet fans are older these days too. Kids just are not into them unless their parents are. If they bring the show back. I think they need to remove a few muppets...ok just the littke brother one from the movie. I hated that one so much. Can't go wrong with more Sam eagle too

 

I think that is the biggest problem, the next generation just isn't in to them and the new movies just didn't satisfy us older fans.

At least we have the old series and Movies! :thumbsup

 

That's what it is; that's exactly what it is. That magic, I think, was all in the material. Kids liked it because it was silly puppets but adults could get into it because they got the humor; the reason why you had all these comedy greats in the original show. I think they've had a real hard time with that balance ever since Disney gobbled them up and failed to see there's a clear distinction from them and the Sesame Street crew. It's like comparing old Disney toons to WB toons; sure they're both cartoons but the humor between them is what skews them so far apart.

What I see with them now, compared to then, is how precious they're presented as now. In their original show, the Muppets were anarchic and very self-defacing with jokes to not only them but show business, in general. Most Wanted kind of touched on this but I thought that if the whole movie wasn't about a heist but about the Muppets trying to stay relevant, that would've been more interesting. We'd actually have a movie about the Muppets and not something with the Muppets. Another big problem I see with them today.

 

I actually liked both of those movies a whole lot. The first moreso.

 

I, too, LOVED the first film. The second film was fun, but didn't have as much heart.

As for this new show, glad to hear they'd bring it back to TV. NOT enamored of the writing crew.

 

It will be great if :
A. Waldorf and Statler are major characters.
B. Will Ferrell guest stars
C. Uncle Deadly is in it a lot.
D. Animal isn't the main character. I like Animal but I can only take so much.
E. Crazy Harry.......

 

Kinda deserved that one.

 

Exactly! The Muppets under Henson and Oz had such a gentle humor. These days no one can write without injecting their own cynicism into the mix, and that damages the final product.
That and make them the stars, not the setting.

 

waldorf and stadler:

"they say all good things come to an end"

"whats that got to do with this show?"

i loved growing up with muppetshow but i doubt it would still work

 

I really think the days of the Muppets has passed, at least as far as movies anyway. I haven't really enjoyed one since the second or third movie.

But I do think it could work on TV again, if done right. It would be hard, though. While I actually liked Muppet Babies, you would really need to get that out of your head. The original Muppet Show had an adult wit that grown ups could relate to, good music, and great guest stars. If you tuned into The Muppet Show thinking you were going to get Sesame Street, you were sadly disappointed. It was so much better. They need to bring all that back. I like the idea of a variety type show better than some kind of muppet sitcom.

 

Don't forget the masterminds behind The Muppets. Without them they are just a bunch of puppets with no soul. What they would need is someone with the same heart and humor as Henson who held true the type of material they did back then and doing that now. Once in a while I see a little something in it, but with the new Muppets stuff overall they're just not what they used to be.

Jim Henson was THE MAN.

 

Yeah bottom line is the Muppets died with him.

I had high hopes for Brian but sadly it just is not there.

It was, and still is, as it ever will be, a tremendous loss the day we lost Jim.

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HAHAHA

 

I think that one of the problems that a new Muppet show would suffer from, if you used the same format as the original, would be you'd have a hard time getting A list actors to do guest appearances on it. Now a days, the only special appearances that big named actors do are interviews on talk shows and SNL, but very seldomly do you see them on any sort reality show of any kind which makes me believe that you wouldn't see any on a new Muppet Show. They'd probably only get old, washed up actors that are just a step above the ones you see in the dealers room at cons, and some minor celebrities like the ones you see on Dancing with the Stars and other such "celebrity" shows these days.

 

You're probably right.

 

I think most actors would jump at the chance.

 

That was my thought. Actors in their 30's would probably love to show up on a new muppet show.

 

Right, but they have to be funny and good actors / music guest. If ones of the K's show up on the show. I seriously would burn all my Muppet stuff...no joke. Seeing it's ABC/Dinsey I wouldn't have to worry about it, but you never know.

 

trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfJkusicBa4

I was SO looking forward to this..then I see it's in "The Office" format.

I HATE that format.

What they ironically have Gonzo say in the trailer is actually correct. It's lazy and annoying.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm probably going to have to skip the new Muppet show.

 

Yeeeeah. I don't know about this.

 

:eek EEEYIKES!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek

 

I'm looking forward to this. I still find the comedy of the original Muppets show funny many years after initially watching it in middle school.

 

Um. No.
Easy pass.
I don't want muppets that act like people, I want muppets that act like muppets.

 

I'll definitely give it a shot.

 

Totally agree, and that is why this Franchise continues to fail :unsure

 

I didn't see Muppets acting like people, I saw them dealing with real people things like Muppets would, and I think it's a genius move. This looks like a lot of fun to me.

 

Not loving the concept of the show structure. But I'm hoping to be proven wrong.

 

I don't get it.
It's not a variety show?
Why isn't it a variety show?
I'm so disappoint

 

Because a variety show probably wouldn't do too well these days. Outside of SNL I don't think we've had anything resembling a successful variety show since the '90s. I don't think that most Americans would watch a variety show, Muppets or no Muppets, these days, I think that ship set sail a long time ago.

 

I think a variety show could totally work these days.
Just 2 weeks ago the whole Avengers crew was doing the PR rounds together.
Imagine the cast of the Avengers goofing off and poking fun at themselves - on the Muppet Show!
You'd watch. I'd watch. Everybody would watch. It'd be the coolest thing since Mark Hamill's Muppet Show appearance.
Now imagine Lady Gaga and Tony Bennet - with Muppets!
Christian Bale and Gonzo doing a Dork Knight skit.
It would totally work, and everybody who's anybody would want to be a part of it, just like in the old days.

 

While you and I, along with most of the rest of the RPF might like the idea we make up a tiny portion of the TV viewing audience nation wide and I'm not sure the rest of this country is interested in a variety show. That and it also seems to be very difficult to get A list actors on anything but SNL & talk shows these days; every other reality show since the '90s that have involved celebs always have either people who are pretty low on the celebrity totem pole or has beens. I suspect that it's largely a matter of cost, big name A list actors are just too expensive to get and with social media there's less need for them to make appearances on anything and everything to get their names and faces out there. There's probably a certain amount of their reps wanting to carefully maintain their client's image so they've become very selective of what their clients appear on and if there's a perception by the general public that variety shows are passe then you can bet that they won't let their clients appear on one.

 

I think you're wrong.
We'll just have to wait and see how Joe Public receives The Office with Puppets (I doubt it will last 1 season).

 

I agree it ought to be a variety show. Muppets work best in short spurts of vaudeville-esque humor. After about the second Muppet movie I was tired of 90 minute Muppet stories.
Bring back the fast shotgun humor. The original Muppet show had that variety yet still always had an underlying plot going on backstage in every episode.

 

The Muppets on ABC....

It's pretty obvious that jim henson WAS the muppets. he was the creative brain child of the whole thing that knew how to bring heart and fun and spot new talent.

Everything since jimhenson has left me feeling just kind of... whelmed. Treasure Island and Christmas Carol where OK (the latter being far better)....but they where theme movies..something I think the muppets where above sinking too. Muppets from space tried to bring it back down to earth, but we didn't really need to know where gonzo came from....and I don't thinnk it ever explained how or why he was sent to earth ;o).

then they did a bunch of forgettable tv movies. two christmas ones. probably just to give the replacement voices a chance to get used the charatcters.
Then came Muppets and Most Wanted. the first movie relied way too much on nostalgia. it wasn't bad, but it wasn't really funny either. the second one was a little better, but again, not so much on crazy, zany and funny. that seemed to have died with jim.

I feel like this new pilot is finally a step in the right direction. It made me laugh more than the other productions did. I think scooter hadthe best scene and Sam had the best lines. I could have done without the blatant cross promotion (dancing with the stars, who doesn't know about thatby now?) Mac Book air (what, apple needs help selling things andgetting the word out?) and Imagine Dragons (nothing funny about them and they added nothing to the show.....you listen to radio and you either know who they are by now or don't.)

but, I guess that's modern tv these days. one reason why I don't watch as much...

but,still it was a great first episode.

 

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I loved it

 

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Super Green !!!!!

 

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It was like The Muppets do Larry Sanders...Totally Enjoyed it.

 

The new muppet show is great. Kermit is such a sly frog. I can't believe he traded in miss piggy for a younger hotter pig. Yes I said hotter pig.

 

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I really enjoyed it. I'll be watching this one every week. I kind of left the Muppets after the first couple of movies, haven't really cared for any of their stuff since, but this seemed really new and fresh.

And of course I saw something yesterday where some parents were criticizing it for being too strong for young children. * parents, they ruin everything.

 

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I thought it was a good first show. I wasn't sure but once I saw the old men in the crowd I had to watch. And who knew Kermit was so sly to trade in piggy for a younger model

 

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Watched it this morning. Really really enjoyed it. I love that Sam is in charge of Standards and Practices. "Can't say hell."

 

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they missed a great tom bergeron joke. Pepe should have said something along the lines of 'Kermit... have you SEEN the lineup of the show the past few seasons? Tom Bergeron IS the biggest star there!'..

another missed muppet joke. Tom Bergeron waits to find out if he's on the show or not in a little star room...Scooter comes in and says.. Mr.Bergeron, Mr.Bergeron, we're waiting to see if your going on.......scooter looks out door....dancing music plays when Tom announces people voted off....
still plays....still plays...a minute later... "Now I know how the audience feels!'... this could have been a running gag....;o)

 

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I just hope they are going to be able to incorporate sketches into the show somehow. I'm afraid that if this is done purely as a "reality" show it might run out of steam fast.

 

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that's what felt off about the imagine dragons bit. in the original show, if they had a guest on singing, something muppety and zany would come in to interupt it, and the guest and muppets would find a way to wreck the segment.

with that last skit, just having animal fall through the drum while so much of the song was heard, didn't cut it.