New Doctor Who Series Discussion *Spoilers*

[NuRF]

Hopefully in a couple of days this will get put to bed.

 

[Goodwolf]

Hopefully in a couple of days this will get put to bed.

I'd say your naive optimism is charming.

 

[Tom Starkiller]

Then how do you rectify the introduction of John Hurt as "The Doctor" at the end of The Name of the Doctor?

The show itself called him The Doctor! So that explanation doesn't seem to fit fully.

But that whole last episode was about the Doctor being a title, not just a name. 11 even states that he(Hurt) was the Doctor-that-wasn't-really-the-Doctor-but-is-the-same-person, but that would have been a tight squeeze in the sub-title.

 

[Kerr Avon]

"The Day of the Doctor" was AMAZING!!!!

I liked the little digs about the Doctor becoming childish. I hope that Capaldi really reverses the trend.

No more farting aliens for ****'s sake.

 

[Nwerke]

DotD was good fun. I liked it. It delivered. John Hurt was great. Couldn't agree more about ending the farting aliens phase. Do the Harry Potter thing - they went for a young audience and got it, but got adults too. Grow things up a bit now.

But it wasn't the big news, IMO. Watch the piece after it, 'An Adventure in Space and Time' - the biopic covering the origin of the show and William Hartnell. David Bradley plays Hartnell brilliantly. This is a Mark Gatiss piece and it's the first time I have unreservedly LOVED his writing. I had to stop watching, got too emo, lol. Can't say enough good things.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Yeah, I've got "Adventures in Time and Space" saved to watch at a later time. I did see spoilers about the last few minutes of it already though, and went ahead and watched that part.

 

[Hovito loincloth]

So season 8 will be dealt with finding Gallifrey and season 9 will deal with getting rid of the millions of Dalek ground troops time locked at the same time?

 

[DuneMuadDib]

Interesting twist that Moffat's introduced. After Hurt's introduction that'd make Matt Smith the 12th Doctor (technically) but Moffat says that since Ten burned up a regeneration in Journey's End when he created the Meta-Crisis Doctor that Matt is actually the 13th and out of regenerations. Obviously we're getting Capaldi in a month so there's a work around for the 12 regeneration limit, but we're dealing with it sooner than many would have suspected.

I gotta say I like that he's addressing the concern many had about Ten cheating the process like that. It also makes Trenzalore a much bigger deal if Eleven is what should be the last incarnation and thus when he dies it's game over for the Doctor.

 

[Primrodo]

The only thing there is that it's source is from the Mirror...a tabloid magazine. Until Christmas u am remaining skeptical on that, and believing Capaldi is the final life.


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[AshGL1914]

Coming in January.

 

[Deric]

So thoughts on the xmas episode "The Time of the Doctor"?

It seemed rushed - very rushed. I really wished they would have done a 90min episode. I was confused on who Clara's family was. I was also confused why the 12th doctor didnt know how to fly the tardis. Speaking of the 12th he just popped in place which was a downer. I expected the morph we always saw with the past 3 and maybe they cut it to save money.

 

[Angelus Lupus]

It was... different. Moments of action interspersed with the Doctor hanging around for hundreds of years while the Daleks fail to blow up a tower, and the cracks again? Really? So why on earth did I suddenly get all teary-eyed when Amy appeared, to say goodnight to the Raggedy Man? I suspect Murray Gold might have had more to do with that than Moffat.

 

[DuneMuadDib]

The abrupt shift caught me off guard, but he explained he'd already regenerated and it was just taking a bit to kick in since it was a new cycle so I'm not complaining too much. Good wrap up to Eleven's overall arc, addressing the lingering things. I was a little concerned that he'd gotten Gallifrey back already but that was a decent curve. Nice to see him regenerate due to age, and also not be such a freaking drama queen about it like Ten was. Also nice that Meta-Crisis Doctor used up a regeneration, glad that rumor was true (such a BS cheat by Davies otherwise).

Not the best Eleven episode, but it did it's job and I'm still sad to see Smith go so I'm happy with it.

 

[0neiros]

Smith is #13, John Hurt earned his place. I did not like this episode, not after the last one. I'm sick of the Daleks, first they're destroyed, now back in force etc. Enough Recycling plot points. I'll reserve judgement on #13, but so far in 10 seconds of him I'm not feeling it, starting with his voice. Oh well, We'll see.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

A robot head stuck into tho console?????

I did that 5 years ago...

Timelord Last Legs - Episode One - YouTube

 

[NormanF]

I kept wondering how they were going to get around the regeneration limit or if they were just going to ignore it.

One thing that is annoying me is the Daleks. When they were reintroduced there were only a few individual survivors. Every time a they are in a story their numbers increase exponentially.
Also, I hope that program to hide Galifrey was running on the TARDIS and not the sonic screw drivers. I have been binging on classic Doctor and Peter Davisons screw driver is destroyed in one episode.

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[DuneMuadDib]

Well "Day of the Doctor" actually fixes that issue with the Daleks. They say that the Daleks at Gallifrey could call for reinforcements, implying that the totality of the race was not present at the Fall of Arcadia. The Doctor was just under the impression that they'd all been wiped out, but clearly reserve forces were still around and have been popping up ever since.

Even aside from that, I'll take just ignoring the issue and moving on to accept there are plenty of Daleks left over the increasingly convoluted explanations for them during Davies' run.

 

[moffeaton]

The show runners really run their oogie boogies into THE GROUND. Oooh the Weeping Angels (rolls eyes). They are no more a threat than ANY of the other "enemies" now. The Daleks literally did NOTHING while the Doctor was in the tower - this show drives me bonkers. There is silly, and then there is just SILLY.

But hey, I'll watch the new season. It'll probably only be 5 hours long anyway, and divided into three "mini-seasons" of one episode each, right?

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I'm also pissed that Downton Season 4 was 8 episodes. Guuh. That is simply not enough Dowager Countess!!!

/grumpus

 

[Captain Carter]

We were disappointed in the episode. I felt it really jumped around and there were short spurts of rushed dialogue followed by explosions and action shots. I think Matt got a bit of the raw deal for his final episode. About the only thing we really got out of this is that he will most likely go past a 13th regeneration but even that is not real clear. I don't know if Galifrey gave power in general to kill the daleks, and it can be used to regenerate, or if it was intended for just regeneration. (And when did the high council befriend him?) Maybe Moffat should take a break, focus on Sherlock Holmes (which I really like) and let someone else turn this around. But im sad to see Matt go. Hoping that Capaldi will succeed despite these things, and the fans who complain about his age. But here's hoping he will pick a cool outfit with a knitted scarf! I'm a sucker when it comes to collecting scarves!

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[DuneMuadDib]

He saved Gallifrey from being destroyed, and he's the only Time Lord in the proper universe and thus the only one who can tell them when it's safe to come out. Keeping him alive is in their own self-interest.