Always is! :lol
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Always is! :lol
Straker
Sr Member
Shhh! They're so dangerous we shouldn't even mention them!
No! I shan't be afraid of them! Dumbledore told me that to not speak openly of them that it just gives them more power.
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
A bit off topic, and it may be because I am now middle-old, but what in the world does XD mean? I see it in so many posts and have no idea what it stands for!
It's a guy laughing hard with his eyes closed tightly.
Oh and don't feel bad. I just recently figured that out. :lol
Straker
Sr Member
Wow, really? I mean, I'm not quite 40 yet but it was the first thing I ever learned when I got on the net...I suppose I can't say TOO much though because I had to ask someone once as well. XD
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
Ah, I get it now. Thanks, I remember having to meditate for a while to figure out Rotflol. I now return you to Doctro Who :lol
I guess it's because there are so many emoticons here that I just use those. Instead of XD I use :lol
OMG spoilers! I didn't know that the Doctor's evil twin Doctro was in this season!
DuneMuadDib
Sr Member
Okay, back to Skaro. Was it stated anywhere that Skaro is time-locked too? The war is time-locked, Gallifrey is time-locked, but is Skaro in fact time-locked?
Also, wasn't Skaro around and just fine in the Eight film? So either the Master was on trial before Seven roasted Skaro, or it got better.
Also, wasn't Skaro around and just fine in the Eight film? So either the Master was on trial before Seven roasted Skaro, or it got better.
Straker
Sr Member
Well, here's the thing about the time lock as well. It MAY only have lasted the duration of the war. It's a time lock after all and may only been there to keep Daleks and Time Lords from going back in time and trying to one up each other (like Curse of the Fatal Death for example) by making actions of the other side not happen. The lock may only have extended far enough in time to just before the war and just after it meaning Skaro and even Gallifrey (if it wasn't destroyed...which it was) if they existed could be approachable and landed on, after all, if the war is over, no time lock. It's just a question of WHEN you try to go there in the planets history. The time lock still exists during one part of it's existence when the Time War is still the present so you can't go there then but before or after that point in its history and you're good.
I once had an idea for a story where a Time Lord decided to breach it by calculating the distance to the outside of the time locks influence and the time it would take to travel it manually, or without any time travel, just by a Tardis' own space propulsion only to find out that the time lock was so vast and the wars duration from the outside would make it so that by the time he escaped it would be well beyond his twelve regenerations and he would be dead by the time he managed to get past the Time War and time locks influence meaning that even that method of escape to leave the Time War would be impossible .
As for Skaro...I have fannon theories like, the super nova wasn't so super and once it calmed down the planet just needed to cool. Or that the Daleks moved the cinder of a planet into orbit around another sun or that the writers of the TV movie didn't know what the hell they were doing sometimes...I'm thinking the latter really.
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Angelus Lupus
Sr Member
Or, one of the two planets (the one burned by Doc #7, or the one we saw in Asylum) was a different one and the Daleks either lied or are very unimaginative about naming planets.
JBReplicas
Master Member
Thing is, we'll never get an episode titled 'how this all works' where we finally find out why the Daleks were wiped out, yet there are still loads of them running around, why the Cybusmen lost their 'C' How Skaro was blown to bits in Remembrance Of The Daleks yet was absolutely fine in the McGann TV Movie when the Master was on trial ON SKARO, on trial? By the Daleks? thats another thread altogether right there :lol It is fun to speculate though.
Birdie
Master Member
The simple answer is that Moffat doesn't give a crap about continuity (particularly to RTD plots) or plot holes as long as we get a big 'wow' factor.
I thought the episode was actually pretty good, probably the most enjoyable he's written since he took over.
I was also let down tho', by creating a cool idea like a planet of insane Daleks, then have them do nothing different from the standard ones.
I think it would have worked a lot better if the Oswin dalek had actually been a true Dalek that thought it was human. That would have justified the insane dalek plot, and how dangerous they could be to 'regular' ones.
Dunno if I missed something, but how come The Doctor didn't start losing track when he gave Amy his bracelet?
I thought the episode was actually pretty good, probably the most enjoyable he's written since he took over.
I was also let down tho', by creating a cool idea like a planet of insane Daleks, then have them do nothing different from the standard ones.
I think it would have worked a lot better if the Oswin dalek had actually been a true Dalek that thought it was human. That would have justified the insane dalek plot, and how dangerous they could be to 'regular' ones.
Dunno if I missed something, but how come The Doctor didn't start losing track when he gave Amy his bracelet?
cboath
Master Member
You may not be that far off the mark. She was in a singular cell, with seemingly more security than the rest, and chained down as well.
I mean, why would mental daleks have the presence of mind to segregate possibly the most dangerous one of them all?
It'd have been nice to see them acting more insane though. One seeing the doctor and running away screaming would have been funny. But just one.
As for the Doctor giving up his bracelet, they've used his Galifrean physiology as the reason for lots of things over the last 50 years. Could be as easy as that while he could still turn, it would take 2-3x longer than for Amy/Rory and he knew they were on their way out shortly anyhow. Could also be that it took X amount of time for Amy to start turning and he knew they'd be out in < X. Better to save the one in danger already especially when he knew he was in the clear.
I mean, why would mental daleks have the presence of mind to segregate possibly the most dangerous one of them all?
It'd have been nice to see them acting more insane though. One seeing the doctor and running away screaming would have been funny. But just one.
As for the Doctor giving up his bracelet, they've used his Galifrean physiology as the reason for lots of things over the last 50 years. Could be as easy as that while he could still turn, it would take 2-3x longer than for Amy/Rory and he knew they were on their way out shortly anyhow. Could also be that it took X amount of time for Amy to start turning and he knew they'd be out in < X. Better to save the one in danger already especially when he knew he was in the clear.
greatwazoo42
Master Member
There's also the item in the dialog about "love slowing the process and hate speeding it up." Who's got more love of danger, adventure, risk and saving the lives of the people who just took on an adventure, put in danger and at risk than The Doctor? As long as he's loving what he's up to those Nano Upstarts don't have squatola of a chance.
TheDoctor
Sr Member
I don't know why everybody is so surprised there are so many Daleks. The "New" Daleks were encountered in the fifth season. Since then, 200 years have passed in The Doctor's timeline, and they're in the future (don't know WHEN in the future...).
Also, there are a number of possibilities for the new companion:
- The Doctor could have rescued the Dalek version just before the explosion, wired her Dalek body into a new Tessalecta giving her the illusion that she's human again.
- It could be a retcon where the Dalek just THINKS it's the woman (The Doctor having rescued her already).
- Could be "The Flesh"
- Could be a completely different character (but the same actress) - because, you know, that's never been done before.... =)
Also, there are a number of possibilities for the new companion:
- The Doctor could have rescued the Dalek version just before the explosion, wired her Dalek body into a new Tessalecta giving her the illusion that she's human again.
- It could be a retcon where the Dalek just THINKS it's the woman (The Doctor having rescued her already).
- Could be "The Flesh"
- Could be a completely different character (but the same actress) - because, you know, that's never been done before.... =)
greatwazoo42
Master Member
Ah yes, the Freema Agyeman principle. She played cousins. One's dead the other one walked the world in a splinter timeline.
As for there being so many Daleks: TIME TRAVEL!!! You can plant a seed, hop in the Tardis and see it as a full tree in no time at all.
B-Movie Zombie
Sr Member
I thought that Rory give his braclet to Amy not the Doctor?
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