Smith is in for Series 8 but I have a feeling it won't start until the fall of 2014.
New Doctor Who Series Discussion *Spoilers*
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But I'm sure we'll get a load of 2 minute web spots as well as another spinoff series... :rolleyes
greatwazoo42
Master Member
You never know...he may be planning on breaking Tom Baker's record and just not telling anyone in case he doesn't.
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
I wish he would. To me, in my opinion only, Matt's Doctor is the best bits of Tom and Christopher rolled into one with his own 'mad scientist' quirkiness!
I find there's a lot of Troughton in him. Don't see a lot of Tom or Christopher...
Force Commander
Sr Member
There are definitely Tom Baker aspects about Matt Smith's Doctor.
Can I get a WOOHOO for one more day!!!!
8 straight weeks of Who.
8 straight weeks of Who.
Would love to hear your guys' thoughts on that. I don't see it.
timelordjedi777
Sr Member
I don't see it either.
cboath
Master Member
In the mini-doc on Troughton last month, Moffat, a producer, and someone else said that Matt's doctor is explicitily based on Troughton's. Not that there aren't other bits in there mind you, but Troughton is his main basis.
greatwazoo42
Master Member
Watch Tomb of the Cybermen (like Matt Smith did) and also Image of Fendahl or City of Death and you'll see parts of 2 and 4 in 11.
I finally realized one of the things missing from New Who that I missed in Old Who. Many of the cliff hangers in Old Who had the Doctor fearing for his life and sure he was probably about to be dead. In New Who the Doctor has this mix of arrogance at having been there and done that so many times it's routine combined with this sense immortality like he now feels the Universe feels he's so important it won't let him die. Suffer? Yes. Die? No.
I finally realized one of the things missing from New Who that I missed in Old Who. Many of the cliff hangers in Old Who had the Doctor fearing for his life and sure he was probably about to be dead. In New Who the Doctor has this mix of arrogance at having been there and done that so many times it's routine combined with this sense immortality like he now feels the Universe feels he's so important it won't let him die. Suffer? Yes. Die? No.
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
Well, I'm too lazy to write my own ex-positive as to why the 11th reminds me of the 4th, so I'll quote the parts of Wiki that say it best...
To an extent, the Fourth Doctor is one of the most unpredictable in terms of his emotional depth, slightly more distant and alien than his previous incarnations.[5]
Despite his obvious moments of whimsical charm, offbeat humour, permeated by his manic grin, the Fourth Doctor is more aloof and somber than his previous incarnations. He could become intensely brooding, serious and even callous. He also displays a darker edge to his personality and in The Invasion of Time he seems to cruelly taunt and play with the Time Lords, after his emergency inauguration as President. He also has a strong moral code, such as when he faces the dilemma of whether to destroy the Daleks in (Genesis of the Daleks) stating that if he did, he would be no better than the Daleks himself. He is truly appalled at the actions of the Pirate Captain in The Pirate Planet and refuses to listen to Professor Tryst's attempts to justify drug-running in order to fund his scientific work (Nightmare of Eden), simply telling him to go away.
At the same time he is capable of moments of genuine warmth. In The Ark in Space, he salutes the human race's indomitability and latter stories establish that Earth is his favourite planet (The Ribos Operation). He is the first Doctor to refer to his companions as his best friends.
To his companions, especially Sarah Jane Smith, he was protective and somewhat of a father figure. In stories such as Pyramids of Mars he is concerned that he is approaching middle age with almost melancholic weariness, something which becomes the main focus of his personality in his final season. He often contemplates his outsider status to both humanity and his Gallifreyan heritage, as he seems more inclined toward a solitary existence (The Deadly Assassin). In contrast to this "outsider existence" he emphasises that he found mankind to be his "favourite species" as if he was scientifically studying it. He could also be furious with those he saw as stupid, frivolous, misguided or just plain evil. When taking charge, he could be considered authoritative to the point of controlling and egocentric. He generally maintained his distance from the Time Lords, remarking in The Pyramids of Mars that, while being from Gallifrey, he doesn't consider himself a Time Lord. He clearly resents that even after they had lifted his exile, they continue to beckon the Doctor whenever they deemed it necessary (Genesis of the Daleks).
Although like all his other incarnations he preferred brain over brawn, he is a capable swordsman (The Androids of Tara) and fighter when needs dictate, following on from the martial expertise of his immediate predecessor. He improvises non-lethal weaponry when necessary (Genesis of the Daleks), but was also not averse to more lethal weaponry as a necessity against both sentient and non-sentient beings, like the matter-destroying DeMat Gun (The Invasion of Time) or contemporary firearms (Image of the Fendahl and The Talons of Weng-Chiang).
One of the Doctor's most significant relationships occurs during his fourth incarnation and is explored further in his tenth incarnation. His friendship with Sarah Jane Smith is implied to be deeper than the relationships he shared with other companions to that point (as alluded to in the Tenth Doctor episode "School Reunion"). She is consequently still profoundly affected by their separation many years later in her personal timeline and he admits to loving her.
To an extent, the Fourth Doctor is one of the most unpredictable in terms of his emotional depth, slightly more distant and alien than his previous incarnations.[5]
Despite his obvious moments of whimsical charm, offbeat humour, permeated by his manic grin, the Fourth Doctor is more aloof and somber than his previous incarnations. He could become intensely brooding, serious and even callous. He also displays a darker edge to his personality and in The Invasion of Time he seems to cruelly taunt and play with the Time Lords, after his emergency inauguration as President. He also has a strong moral code, such as when he faces the dilemma of whether to destroy the Daleks in (Genesis of the Daleks) stating that if he did, he would be no better than the Daleks himself. He is truly appalled at the actions of the Pirate Captain in The Pirate Planet and refuses to listen to Professor Tryst's attempts to justify drug-running in order to fund his scientific work (Nightmare of Eden), simply telling him to go away.
At the same time he is capable of moments of genuine warmth. In The Ark in Space, he salutes the human race's indomitability and latter stories establish that Earth is his favourite planet (The Ribos Operation). He is the first Doctor to refer to his companions as his best friends.
To his companions, especially Sarah Jane Smith, he was protective and somewhat of a father figure. In stories such as Pyramids of Mars he is concerned that he is approaching middle age with almost melancholic weariness, something which becomes the main focus of his personality in his final season. He often contemplates his outsider status to both humanity and his Gallifreyan heritage, as he seems more inclined toward a solitary existence (The Deadly Assassin). In contrast to this "outsider existence" he emphasises that he found mankind to be his "favourite species" as if he was scientifically studying it. He could also be furious with those he saw as stupid, frivolous, misguided or just plain evil. When taking charge, he could be considered authoritative to the point of controlling and egocentric. He generally maintained his distance from the Time Lords, remarking in The Pyramids of Mars that, while being from Gallifrey, he doesn't consider himself a Time Lord. He clearly resents that even after they had lifted his exile, they continue to beckon the Doctor whenever they deemed it necessary (Genesis of the Daleks).
Although like all his other incarnations he preferred brain over brawn, he is a capable swordsman (The Androids of Tara) and fighter when needs dictate, following on from the martial expertise of his immediate predecessor. He improvises non-lethal weaponry when necessary (Genesis of the Daleks), but was also not averse to more lethal weaponry as a necessity against both sentient and non-sentient beings, like the matter-destroying DeMat Gun (The Invasion of Time) or contemporary firearms (Image of the Fendahl and The Talons of Weng-Chiang).
One of the Doctor's most significant relationships occurs during his fourth incarnation and is explored further in his tenth incarnation. His friendship with Sarah Jane Smith is implied to be deeper than the relationships he shared with other companions to that point (as alluded to in the Tenth Doctor episode "School Reunion"). She is consequently still profoundly affected by their separation many years later in her personal timeline and he admits to loving her.
That's just a description of 4, not a comparison. I'd love to hear what aspects people see as the same. I see a good amount of 4 in Tennant, but not Smith.
There are certain aspects that are the same or similar between all Doctors because that's the character. However for how it's portrayed I see Smith as a younger carbon copy of Troughton with a dash of bubbly added.
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
Sigh........
IMOO I see bits of 4 in Matt's portrayal. You're own mileage may vary!
:lol
I'm not fighting with you man, I'm genuinely interested to hear what some people think are the similarities! This is a discussion forum right?
greatwazoo42
Master Member
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I'm not fighting with you man, I'm genuinely interested to hear what some people think are the similarities! This is a discussion forum right?
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