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Maybe I'm just having a mental block but aside from Jack, who is a very overtly sexual individual, what companions/characters have the equivalent of the "Hello, Doctor, I'm gay!" moment?

Most that I recall you don't find out until a bit later and IIRC it seems to be a little more subtle than you're saying.
 
From what I've seen a lot of the original interiors were done on budgets, and looked fairly corny. The last two looked liked different materials all cobbled together. Eccleston and Tennant's looked steam-punk, Mat's had nothing too technological - nothing but knobs, switches, and levers. This new one, imo, looks like 2009's Star Trek puked everywhere.

Maybe I fell asleep during 2009 Trek...but wasn't everything sleek and white?

This one is more muted, grey and more industrial looking than Trek...

I look forward to seeing it in action next week for sure!
 
Maybe I'm just having a mental block but aside from Jack, who is a very overtly sexual individual, what companions/characters have the equivalent of the "Hello, Doctor, I'm gay!" moment?

Most that I recall you don't find out until a bit later and IIRC it seems to be a little more subtle than you're saying.


More subtle, yes. That was a bit of hyperbole!
 
too modern?

Agreed. The Time Lords were one of the most advanced species in existence, right? And it's too modern?

I think things like homosexuality should absolutely be treated as "no big deal" in DW. To the Doctor why would it be?

As long as the contemporary reactions are realistic I'm all good with it. Like Nixon's reaction to "Yes, HE'S black". :lol

On the gay subject. I'll either hate this or love this, with me being gay. I live in North Carolina, which is full of bigotry, but I live in The Triangle (Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill). The Triangle is one of the most progressive parts of North Carolina, tied only with Asheville, which is a woo-woo, vegetarian, about 50% lesbian, wiccan, "legalize weed" hot spot. Can you tell that I have mixed feelings about Asheville? Anyway, I get everything from "Okay, cool." to "Oh my god, I've never met one, let me ask you questions until you implode, explode or create a new kind of plode." to the good old fashioned "You're going to burn in hell, and I'm going to be the one to put you there." *pulls out shotgun* Yes, all those reactions happen in the same space.

"Hello, I'm The Doctor!"

"Hello, Doctor, I'm gay!"

I don't care, really, but why so much emphasis on it? Should they not give just as much equal mention to straight, transgendered, or A-sexual characters?

Besides finding that amusing I'll give you why that might be the first thing out of a gay person's mouth.
A) Recently the Doctor has been quite sexy by straight female and gay male standards. If I ran into Matt Smith or David Tennant in the street without knowing who they are my first priority would be to have a, preferably romantic, relationship with them. I, myself, would not just say "I'm gay." I'd be more subtle and find something else that would mean we'd keep in touch or talk until they just happen to figure it out or I figure their sexuality out. At which point I'd be dissapointed. A gay person who hasn't known it or been out for very long might just say "I'm gay." because they don't know how else to go about it. Oh, and if I knew they were time travelers from outer space who spent their time exploring and saving the universe? That increases sex appeal by unmeasurable amounts.
B) They find out that the Doctor is from a highly advanced society and that is fascinating. They want to have a conversation about it, so they get straight (pun somewhat intended) to the point.
C) It's the first thing out of a newly out gay person's mouth. They want to make sure that they aren't about to make friends with someone who is going to later hurt they're feelings.
D) I had a lot more, but now I forget because I have a whole lot of other things to say about it.

Maybe I'm just having a mental block but aside from Jack, who is a very overtly sexual individual, what companions/characters have the equivalent of the "Hello, Doctor, I'm gay!" moment?

Most that I recall you don't find out until a bit later and IIRC it seems to be a little more subtle than you're saying.

Good question, besides Jack, Shakespeare and background dancers I actually don't remember anyone else being gay. Shakespeare is only hinted at too. Oh and the gender confused horse.

All that being said, here's some more.
I learned more about sex, drugs, violence, racism, etc. from going to school with other people my age than I would ever have picked up from anywhere else at any point in my life. And I learned about it a lot earlier than 13.

Gay people disproportionate to the amount in real life? That depends on whose life you're looking at. I was born and partially raised in NYC. My two godmothers are partners. My mom came out briefly after I did (my parents had already been separated for two years). I didn't even know being gay was taboo until middle school. But, looking for out gay people my age in North Carolina. Very hard to find.
In the Doctor's life? Of course there are a lot of gay people, we inhabit history everywhere. Gay people get a lot of crap early in life and end up moving to big city's or anywhere else they can find acceptance. The Doctor doesn't spend a whole lot of time in the suburbs and the suburbs are the number 1 spot to get the hell out of if you're gay. Either you go to nature or the city, and those are places the Doctor spends time in. When space travel becomes more possible of course we'll be trying our hardest to get a one way ticket to a different galaxy.
The reason why the gay people you meet don't talk about it a lot is because they don't need to or want to. When you're with friends it's just another subject. When you're on the internet with straight people all trying to figure it out though you can go crazy like me and give an epicly long speech because, well, I'll face it. This is probably the only topic on this forum that I know more about than you probably do. I'll end talking about this subject by saying that talking about this has made me remember a lot more of the gay moments I've seen in Doctor Who. Maybe I don't know what I'm saying after all :facepalm

By the way is Michael Bergeron related to Patrice Bergeron from the Bruins?
Sometimes people don't realize I'm gay simply because I like things like hockey and carpentry. But then again most people are pretty goll darn stupid.
 
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By the way is Michael Bergeron related to Patrice Bergeron from the Bruins?
Sometimes people don't realize I'm gay simply because I like things like hockey and carpentry. But then again most people are pretty goll darn stupid.

Yes, but I've never met him, he's my cousin descended from my grandfather's brother. :)

As NMR (and you) pointed out gay people are normal with the same interests as anyone else. They just are attracted to the same sex.

Your posts were a good read. :thumbsup
 
Just watch School Reunion. MUCH more powerful once you seen the originals. I was pissed at the way the end SJS's run in the original series, glad to see the new runners agreed and fixed a terrible wrong :)
 
"Gay people are normal" perhaps. I'd say "Gay people are people"* they have just as much right to be 'not normal' and oddball as anyone else. Heck, most of the folks on the RPF aren't really 'normal', me included (and I mean that in a nice way)



*Or to quote "Muppets Take Manhattan" "Peoples is peoples"
 
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Due to the illness of Elisabeth Sladen, and her subsequent death on 19 April 2011, filming for the second half of the fifth series, which was due to air in the autumn of 2011, was postponed and later cancelled.[44] Filming for three stories of the fifth season had been completed.[45] The final series was aired from 3 to 18 October 2011 on CBBC and ended with a tribute to Elisabeth Sladen in the form of a video montage of scenes from SJA and Doctor Who.[46]



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Series 5 (2011)

Filming for the first three stories of series 5, two by Phil Ford and one by Gareth Roberts, was completed prior to Elisabeth Sladen's death. [6] Production for the second half of the series, comprising three more two-part stories, was planned for spring 2011[5] but never commenced due to Sladen's illness.[45] The filmed episodes of series 5 were broadcast in October 2011, with a short montage of key moments from all five series plus scenes from Sladen's time on Doctor Who added to the end of The Man Who Never Was to mark the end of the programme. The three stories that never entered production were titled Meet Mr Smith, The Thirteenth Floor and The Battle For Bannerman Road.[46] The Thirteenth Floor has since been rewritten for an episode of Russell T. Davies's and Phil Ford's new show Wizards vs Aliens.[47]
 
I had only seen the reunion episode and the first 1/2 season of SJA which aired on syfy here (but nothing else since) when she died. It was sad from the stories relayed on here. Was sadder when watching her original episodes last spring.

I didn't know they made into a fifth season though. Means more to look forward too. Glad they were able to give it some type of end.

Something that I didn't notice the first time was the look in tenants face in their first meeting. Reminded me of the look he had when doing the CIN special with Davison. Kind of a 'kid's dream coming true' look from meeting one of his heroes.
 
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