New Doctor Who Series Discussion *Spoilers*

[Goodwolf]

Am I going to have to add Doctor Who to the list of shows I 'used' to watch?

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I have a 13 year old daughter who watches the show with me. I don't want these issues in front of her. And it's not a matter if the lizard lady is gay or not, could not care less. I would not want her talking about sexual exploits if she were a straight lizard lady!

That's kinda one of my minor niggles about the show, especially under RTD. You couldn't go 3 weeks without having some equality theme shoved in your face. Usually it was a gay couple treated as no big, but sometimes it was other stuff.

I'm all for equality, love me some equality. I just don't feel like it needs to be served up like a Southern Baptist sermon. But I guess he felt like it had to be served up with all the subtlety of a kid's show math problem because, ostensibly, it was supposed to be a kid's show...

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Agreed. Don't like my Who to be too preachy but it is what it is I guess.

 

[JBReplicas]

I do really like the new interior, it harkens back to the classic series which may be a deliberate move seeing as it's the 50th anniversary year?

 

[Shade88]

I am a big fan of the new interior. :thumbsup

 

[Sundowner]

I like the new interior and the Doc's new digs!

 

[cboath]

Any chance it's the backup control room? Should be interesting to see the change explained...

 

[JBReplicas]

Any chance it's the backup control room? Should be interesting to see the change explained...

Agreed, last time it was regeneration energy damage so who knows

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Agreed, last time it was regeneration energy damage so who knows

Or maybe he was just tired of the desktop theme. :lol

I have no problem with the current control room, or any past version to be honest. Do like the more classic feel though. :thumbsup

 

[greatwazoo42]

He probably wanted a change of scenery as there was too much heartsbreak associated with the last one. Especially the Idris/Tardis incident and the Ponds being lost to him.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

Not to mention that the TARDIS console room is now over 300 years since it's last regeneration!

 

[greatwazoo42]

Yeah, even block transfer computation generated virtual matter objects wear out after a while.

 

[Norse Iron Man]

too modern?

From what I've seen a lot of the original interiors were done on budgets, and looked fairly corny. The last two looked liked different materials all cobbled together. Eccleston and Tennant's looked steam-punk, Mat's had nothing too technological - nothing but knobs, switches, and levers. This new one, imo, looks like 2009's Star Trek puked everywhere.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

This new one, imo, looks like 2009's Star Trek puked everywhere.

Not enough lens flares to be JJ Trek! :lol

 

[cboath]

He probably wanted a change of scenery as there was too much heartsbreak associated with the last one. Especially the Idris/Tardis incident and the Ponds being lost to him.

That's what I thought. If it was me, i'd goto the back up room for a change of pace, i wouldn't redesign the whole thing. I may not want the room to remind of them 'now', but a few months down the road, I could very well be ready to go back.

For a realistic reason....i'd guess that maybe the existing 2 story control room was much more difficult to shoot in/on/around. One floor, basic set, etc, could be substantially easier to work with and maybe even let them explore more of the interior. I mean, we haven't seen the pool in decades FWIW, i remember coming upon that episode with the pool and remembering the joke in the new series and thinking 'holy crap! there really is a pool!'

 

[Angelus Lupus]

That's kinda one of my minor niggles about the show, especially under RTD. You couldn't go 3 weeks without having some equality theme shoved in your face. Usually it was a gay couple treated as no big...

Non-sequiter, your argument is self defeating. Something cannot be simultaneously "shoved in your face" and "treated as no big", the two are mutually exclusive.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

I think things like homosexuality should absolutely be treated as "no big deal" in DW. To the Doctor why would it be?

As long as the contemporary reactions are realistic I'm all good with it. Like Nixon's reaction to "Yes, HE'S black". :lol

 

[Kerr Avon]

The only problem is having the Doctor run into a disproporationately number of gay/lesbian characters. When we're talking about roughly 10% of the populace being gay/lesbian, is seemed to be happening to a lot of the primary characters they ran into. I'm fine with them, but make it more natural, not so forced.

 

[Goodwolf]

Non-sequiter, your argument is self defeating. Something cannot be simultaneously "shoved in your face" and "treated as no big", the two are mutually exclusive.

Then allow me to clarify my apparently poor phrasing. The situations were shoved in our, the viewers' faces, while the other characters reacted as if it were no big even though contemporary society would have definitely treated is as a big deal.

Better?

 

[Michael Bergeron]

The only problem is having the Doctor run into a disproporationately number of gay/lesbian characters. When we're talking about roughly 10% of the populace being gay/lesbian, is seemed to be happening to a lot of the primary characters they ran into. I'm fine with them, but make it more natural, not so forced.

I hear ya there. Doesn't really bug me but it's definitely convenient.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

"Hello, I'm The Doctor!"

"Hello, Doctor, I'm gay!"

I don't care, really, but why so much emphasis on it? Should they not give just as much equal mention to straight, transgendered, or A-sexual characters?

Or when they do, Jack is supposed to be omnisexual, however, the only on-screen relationships we see him in are with other men. Okay, he has a daughter, and had a grandson. It would have been nice to see the relationship he had with the woman, instead of a throw away scene just to PROVE he had one.

I guess the point is they make them gay just for the sake of BEING gay. Any of the gay people I work with are just like me, except gay. They don't go around talking about being gay, or making a point of it. We eat lunch together, I sometimes talk about my wife, they talk about their partner, but mostsly we just talk about the insane amount of work we have to finish by the end of the week, and how much hospital food sucks!