National Treasure- Ocular Device/ ALL PARTS FOUND!!!

[Gigatron]

Well, I just ordered all the parts to make myself a pair of these.

Does anyone have some WIP pics of how the earpieces come off? Just want to see what I'm up against when the parts get here.

Also, can anyone repost the screen caps of the originals?

Thanks,
Fred

 

[Gigatron]

OK, here are some screen caps. If anyone needs some others, just give me a time stamp.

-Fred

 

[SgtFang]

Hey guys, been busy for the last few days on the King, thanks Gigatron for posting those pics, here's a few of the Mason brick -

And here's a nice, basic Masonic symbol-

-Sarge

 

[Gigatron]

Looking at the screen caps and the pics that bbabich posted, I think that the glasses have yet to be correctly identified.

There are several differences in the shape of the eyeframe and the bridge is completely wrong. The bridge on the screen pair goes up, the bridge on brian's pair, goes out.

I can't seem to Jas' website to work now, can anyone else?

-Fred

 

[Walter]

Fred,

I could not agree more.

Thanks for those screencaps.

The bridge is close on basic shape, but it is indeed different as the details connecting to the frame near the lense is different. Furthermore the lense frame is too square on the pair I have. The screen used pair is a bit rounder in the lenses.

The earpieces still looks like a match, but the area between the earpiece and the lense portion of the frame is longer on the screen used piece. The area actually looks like it has been welded or something along those lines.

I think the screen caps brought a great deal of clarity here. I think we have nailed the ebay pair very well, which will make many people happy as is, but for a screen accurate pair, I think some more work will be needed.

-Bryan

 

[Gigatron]

I came across this website here http://www.optiboard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=155696#post155696

If you look in post #7, the guy lists a ton of different replica glasses manufacturers. I've been going through them, but I could really use a few more pairs of eyes working on it.

If anybody's interested in going through these sites, I'm sure everyone would apreciate it - especially if we find the correct screen seen pair.

Thanks,
Fred

 

[SgtFang]

The earpieces still looks like a match, but the area between the earpiece and the lense portion of the frame is longer on the screen used piece. The area actually looks like it has been welded or something along those lines.

I think the screen caps brought a great deal of clarity here. I think we have nailed the ebay pair very well, which will make many people happy as is, but for a screen accurate pair, I think some more work will be needed.

-Bryan

You could be right about them being braised or soldered on. I think if someone wanted to go to the trouble, they could cut probably the earpiece and the hinge off here-

...and solder it on to the rectangular frames (SHUDDER! I burn myself w/ soldering irons...).

We DO have someone here on the board who worked on the movie, who told me a little about the originals... I'll see if it's ok to repost what he told me and see if I can persuade him to pop in here w/ some first hand knowlege. :thumbsup

For myself, mine are just going to be shelf sitters, so I'll probably stick with the Townsend glasses, and get some lenses from blufive. :lol


-Sarge

 

[Pirateslife]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Well, from this picture, it appears there was no soldering on the frames, and also looks very much like the townsend glasses, moreso than the screencaps (the bridge is seamless, and the whole front is gold). Is this screenused?

 

[Gigatron]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Well, from this picture, it appears there was no soldering on the frames, and also looks very much like the townsend glasses, moreso than the screencaps (the bridge is seamless, and the whole front is gold). Is this screenused?

Nope, this is the ebay pair, which is built on townsend glasses.

But I don't get how you can argue with the screencaps. There's nothing more accurate than the pair seen on screen.

-Fred

 

[Pirateslife]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Nope, this is the ebay pair, which is built on townsend glasses.

But I don't get how you can argue with the screencaps. There's nothing more accurate than the pair seen on screen.

-Fred

True, but I thought they could be a stunt version of the prop, in which case the townsend version of the glasses would be more relevant than if they had no relation to the movie whatsoever.

 

[SgtFang]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

But I don't get how you can argue with the screencaps. There's nothing more accurate than the pair seen on screen.

-Fred

Who's arguing with the screencaps? :confused

-Sarge

 

[Gigatron]

Who's arguing with the screencaps? :confused

-Sarge

Quote from Pirateslife: "Well, from this picture, it appears there was no soldering on the frames, and also looks very much like the townsend glasses, moreso than the screencaps (the bridge is seamless, and the whole front is gold)."


To me, I read that as, "these glasses appear to be more accurate than the screen used glasses"

I understand how that can happen, because when I was getting caps, I thought those glasses were from the movie as well, but I wasn't able to find this scene anywhere in the film. That's when I realized the pictures posted were from the ebay auction, not the movie. But after the screen caps were posted, the glasses in the caps should be considered the ultimate canon on that prop (assuming it wasn't a stunt set).

-Fred

 

[Pirateslife]

Quote from Pirateslife: "Well, from this picture, it appears there was no soldering on the frames, and also looks very much like the townsend glasses, moreso than the screencaps (the bridge is seamless, and the whole front is gold)."

To me, I read that as, "these glasses appear to be more accurate than the screen used glasses"

I understand how that can happen, because when I was getting caps, I thought those glasses were from the movie as well, but I wasn't able to find this scene anywhere in the film. That's when I realized the pictures posted were from the ebay auction, not the movie. But after the screen caps were posted, the glasses in the caps should be considered the ultimate canon on that prop (assuming it wasn't a stunt set).

-Fred

Well I hope it's clear what I meant by it now, which was a question as to the origin of the picture. the key phrase was "from this picture".

Anyway, upon looking at the screencaps, it seems bbabich could be on to something concerning the frames when he said the sides look like they are from the round townsends. Another thing that looks like it's from the round townsends is the bridge. The frames around the lenses of the round glasses are also the same thickness as the screen piece. What I'm trying to say is it is possible that the frames were adjusted and the glasses used in the movie are purely the round townsends, only modified.

 

[Gigatron]

What I'm trying to say is it is possible that the frames were adjusted and the glasses used in the movie are purely the round townsends, only modified.

That's completely possible. It looks like if you took the round ones and compressed them from the top and the bottom, you'd end up with the glasses in the screen caps.

So, the question becomes, can you compress those frames and what do you do about the glass?

-Fred

 

[RelicMaker]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Sorry it took me so long to chime in on this!
I do want to clarify that the picture above is definitely a fan-made piece, since I've spoken with the guy who made this particular pair when he started selling these, which he's sold quite a few of.

Here's some pictures of the actual prop when it was auctioned off on eBay after the movie was made. These should help answer any questions you guys have.

This particular pair below, I believe, was used in the scene when the FBI agent was flipping the lens up and down on the desk. This way they could add whatever CGI they needed to add without the colored lenses and give the dollar bill effect.

Best,
Brenton

 

[Gigatron]

Thanks for those pics, Brendon. It's nice to be able to study the glasses without all the background noise (i.e. nick cage :lol)

I sent townsend an email to see if he can cancel the order for the wrong glasses before he sends out the order. The order was still in pending this morning, so hopefully he sees the email before we have to go through the return process.

So, my plan is to take the round glasses, pop the lenses and slowly compress the frame to square off the top and the bottom. Then take some plexi and cut/file to shape. Hopefully this will work.

Or even more hopefully, we can find the correct pair of frames that were used.

-Fred

 

[SgtFang]

Relic Maker, Great pics! I'd only seen the top one before.

Ok, I've PM'd our member here who worked on the movie and asked (begged actually :lol) him to pop in here when he gets a chance.

Here's what he's told me so far about the original glasses-

The glasses are an off the shelf set of "Ben Franklin" style glasses. We made the loops from scratch to fit lenses that were colored and custom ground from our eyeglass department. Unfortunately, there was only one set made of these glasses. The same pair of glasses were later redone and used again in "Click". I have not seen this movie but they should be in there.

I've asked him if he remembers where they got the base glasses and if he remembers the model number. With luck he'll be able to shed some light for us.

Cross your fingers!

-Sarge

 

[Gigatron]

Here's to hoping that you hear back from him and he remembers where in the world he got them.

I've run every search string I can think of on google and I just keep coming across the same set of glasses over and over again.

-Fred

 

[SgtFang]

Here's to hoping that you hear back from him and he remembers where in the world he got them.

I've run every search string I can think of on google and I just keep coming across the same set of glasses over and over again.

-Fred

Just to be perfectly clear, I don't know that he actually made the originals, just that he worked in the same shop and knows how they were made.

-Sarge

 

[Gigatron]

Just to be perfectly clear, I don't know that he actually made the originals, just that he worked in the same shop and knows how they were made.

-Sarge

Anything would be better than the info we have now :lol

-Fred