National Treasure- Ocular Device/ ALL PARTS FOUND!!!

[SgtFang]

Mods- This is NOT an interest thread for a run, this is intended as an old fashioned group project for everyone to build their own. Please leave it in the main forum. -Sarge

Ok, the new movie is coming out soon, I've been watching the original a lot lately, and I want a set of the ocular glasses hidden in the Masons brick.

There's a set that appears on eBay every few weeks, but the BIN is WAY high. I'm pretty certain we can all put together sets for ourselves a whole lot cheaper.

Here's some shots of the originals-

The main frames are from these 30.00 historical replicas from JAS Towsend- (Oh- you'll want the WIDE ones!)

The earpieces are from this other set of 30.00 replicas, also from JAS Townsend-

The colored lenses, I believe are from cannibalized cheap gold frame John Lennon glasses that have been cut up, and had bits soldered on to mount them to the spindles.

The spindles are what's hanging me up. They "look" like an assemblage of small threaded brass sleeves with a small spring on each one, and maybe a small, round brass bead that the colored lens stems get soldered to.

http://jas-townsend.com/index.php?cPath=46

Anybody wanna help me figure these things out the rest of the way?

-Sarge

 

[houdiniguy]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

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[TazVader]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Great Idea Sarge. This looks fun. The "POTC" compass thread was way fun.

So..it looks as though the spring keeps tension on the coloured lense stems and holds them in position once set by the user? The little assembly holding the stems of the coloured lenses looks like some type of threaded screw setup. Maybe from a set of dividers or something??? Anyone else??

Regards
TAZ

 

[SgtFang]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

So..it looks as thought the spring keeps tension on the coloured lenses and holds them in position once set? The little assembly holding the stems of the coloured pieces looks like some tiype of threaded screw setup. Maybe from a set of dividers or something??? ANyone else??

Regards
TAZ

That's the spirit! let's figure these things out! :thumbsup

-Sarge

 

[TazVader]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

What we need is some close up pics of the assembly that holds the coloured lense frames in place...

TAZ

 

[SgtFang]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

What we need is some close up pics of the assembly that holds the coloured lense frames in place...

TAZ

Ehh, that's the best I've got so far... They ain't a whole lot of good reference for these things. :unsure

-Sarge

 

[SgtFang]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Oh c'mon now RPF! 64 views and only 5 replies?!?!?

You got better'n THAT..! Now bring it!

-Sarge

 

[Pirateslife]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Well, I popped in National treasure and, while TazVader is right in saying it looks like the thing connecting the lenses to the glasses is a spring, going 1 hour and 25 minutes in, the scene with Agent Sadusky is fiddling with the glasses while talking, he pushes down absentmidedly on the rod of one of the colored lenses and it pops back into the original position after he releases it. Now it seems to me from that footage that the spring has more to do than hold the lens components in place. I don't know much about metal, but is it possible that the cylindrical parts with the buttons on the top, which the rods of the lenses go through, attach the lenses to the spring part and the spring acts on them because they are attached to it? Let me know if I didn't make sense. Just something to think about.

 

[TazVader]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Mmm...I will have to watch it agian to see what you mean but sounds like you might be right. I thought that the lenses from memory were springy. But when I looked at these caps I couldn't see how LOL We MUST find better pics.

Regards
TAZ

 

[Kevin]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Good excuse to watch this again. My memory must be playing tricks because I was sure the lenses just rest in place and have to be held up.

 

[SgtFang]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Yup, there's definatley some spring tension on the lens levers.

-Sarge

 

[greatgarlando]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Good excuse to watch this again. My memory must be playing tricks because I was sure the lenses just rest in place and have to be held up.

Yes they have to be held up. Remember the scene where agent Sanduskie is talking to Gates at a desk at police/FBI hedquarters. Sanduskie is tapping the arm to one of the lenses it rizes and then falls. This is how Gates relizes that there is more information on the map.

 

[Kevin]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Yes they have to be held up. Remember the scene where agent Sanduskie is talking to Gates at a desk at police/FBI hedquarters. Sanduskie is tappind the arm to one of the lenses it rizes and then falls. This is how Gates relizes that there is more information on the map.

I THOUGHT so! I shall still double check though.
This thread just inspired me to watch the trailers for NT 2. It looks like it might be even more fun than the first one. There are certainly plenty of paper props featured.

 

[HellGhost]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

You guys are making this too complicated
The lens and "buttons" are set screws. they will hold the lens in place. You just need to get a piece of brass and drill three holes. One for the thread post one for the lens and one down for the set screw (though this HAS to have threads!!). you can use a "tap and die" kit to cut these threads.
the spring does NOT do anything but keep tension. remember that glass is heavy, its own natural weight (and good ol gravity) will make it fall down as you guys have seen. You would also need to cut a notch in the collars to stop the lens from continuing to fall.
The image i marked up i hope expalins the part you need to make...

Mods- This is NOT an interest thread for a run, this is intended as an old fashioned group project for everyone to build their own. Please leave it in the main forum. -Sarge

Ok, the new movie is coming out soon, I've been watching the original a lot lately, and I want a set of the ocular glasses hidden in the Masons brick.

There's a set that appears on eBay every few weeks, but the BIN is WAY high. I'm pretty certain we can all put together sets for ourselves a whole lot cheaper.

Here's some shots of the originals-

The main frames are from these 30.00 historical replicas from JAS Towsend- (Oh- you'll want the WIDE ones!)

The earpieces are from this other set of 30.00 replicas, also from JAS Townsend-

The colored lenses, I believe are from cannibalized cheap gold frame John Lennon glasses that have been cut up, and had bits soldered on to mount them to the spindles.

The spindles are what's hanging me up. They "look" like an assemblage of small threaded brass sleeves with a small spring on each one, and maybe a small, round brass bead that the colored lens stems get soldered to.

http://jas-townsend.com/index.php?cPath=46

Anybody wanna help me figure these things out the rest of the way?

-Sarge

 

[Pirateslife]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Yeah, you're right about the spring being just for tension. I didn't take into consideration the weight of glass would be enough to set it back in its original position. It seemed like it to me at first because of the sound effect, but in trinity church they don't immediately snap back to position, like a spring would.

You guys are making this too complicated
The lens and "buttons" are set screws. they will hold the lens in place. You just need to get a piece of brass and drill three holes. One for the thread post one for the lens and one down for the set screw (though this HAS to have threads!!). you can use a "tap and die" kit to cut these threads.
the spring does NOT do anything but keep tension. remember that glass is heavy, its own natural weight (and good ol gravity) will make it fall down as you guys have seen. You would also need to cut a notch in the collars to stop the lens from continuing to fall.
The image i marked up i hope expalins the part you need to make...

 

[HellGhost]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Here is a render of what the collars need to look like...

Does this make since?? You would need 3 collars (according to the photo but two would work) and they would each catch one another. and the "cube" shape of the part holding the lens would catch the other side of the collar. I am not positive that I have made he notches in the right place!! You might have to modify the location of this! These would use the spring tension to lock it in place when they hit the ridge, hence why you need the spring

All of these parts can be bought at your local Ace hardware!

Yeah, you're right about the spring being just for tension. I didn't take into consideration the weight of glass would be enough to set it back in its original position. It seemed like it to me at first because of the sound effect, but in trinity church they don't immediately snap back to position, like a spring would.

 

[SgtFang]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Here is a render of what the collars need to look like...

Does this make since?? You would need 3 collars (according to the photo but two would work) and they would each catch one another. and the "cube" shape of the part holding the lens would catch the other side of the collar. I am not positive that I have made he notches in the right place!! You might have to modify the location of this! These would use the spring tension to lock it in place when they hit the ridge, hence why you need the spring

All of these parts can be bought at your local Ace hardware!

Aha! I'll have to look for those next time I go to Plainfield or Greenwood- They closed the last of the "real" hardware stores nearby, and just left us with Lowes and Menards- home improvement stores with just a (usually under equipped) hardware "aisle".

I was positive these spindles were made from existing stuff, but the closest things I ever saw were the threaded sleeves. What are these notched ones used for in the real world?

Oh- on the colored lenses, I'm going to google some dollar store suppliers tonight to see if the right ones can be bought in bulk.

Thanks!

-Sarge

 

[SgtFang]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

Hey, if anyone reading is from Indiana, JAS Townsend always has a tent set up at Feast of the Hunters Moon (a huge black powder era reenactment) http://www.tcha.mus.in.us/feast.htm

We go every year anyway, so I was thinking of emailing them to bring a few pairs each of the glasses, so I could save on shipping.

The dates are Oct 13th and 14th, 9:00 - 4:00

-Sarge

 

[HellGhost]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

I hate to say it but I'd try to find some real glass glasses I don't think you'll find this at a 1$ store. If the lens are not glass they will stick up in the position you move them...
And its just called a " brass collar" you will have to Cut in the ridges with a file (that should not take too long)...they are used as a spacer. Actually exactly what they are being used for in the glasses

 

[blufive]

Re: National Treasure- Ocular Device/ 3D Glasses

I can custom make optical quality plastic (CR-39) lenses with the correct tint for this project but I don't have the equipment to run glass.