MR TOS Enterprise - new pics
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The deal with the gridlines is, you don't see 'em from across the room, and up close, you barely notice 'em.
That's the way it OUGHT to be, anyway.
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That's the way it OUGHT to be, anyway.
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pielock373
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Refit1701 @ Jan 26 2007, 06:42 PM) [snapback]1405597[/snapback]</div>
Wow, I think I've only known a very small handfull of people who actually rec'vd their Unobtainium ship..let alone a replacement. Mine of course was handed to me in person @ a Seattle Con. by one of the owners.
When I took it out of the box, I notice a nacelle cowling glued on wrong...but I still loved it. Then once it was home and on display......the saucer began dipping. The dorsel and lower pylon(engineering) began cracking and these flaws only got worse over time. I tied fishline around the cracking components to hold it together. Then of course the outgassing began and the model discolored. My elecronics always worked fine and still do. I LOVED Unob.'s base design, and the fact that it has starship sounds as well as lighting. Mine cost 1500.00. I eventually got this back from credit card, although the company went belly up.
Now, I'm spending another 1200.00 for another dream. I pray when I open my MR box, I don't have to cry, get angry, or ship it back and wait another 6 months for a replacement that may or may not have subtle problems that grow over a short period. Let's not forget...MR has on individual on staff that used to work for Unobtainium, who'd rather not have his name mentioned as being there when the ill fated prop was first bandied to the public as the Ultimate collectible...a product that bankrupt the company. I even have an audio tape from the court preceedings where 1 of the customer's showed up to try and prove fraud to the judge, and brought along his poor starship model to show.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DrMcoy @ Jan 26 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]1405472[/snapback]</div>
When I took it out of the box, I notice a nacelle cowling glued on wrong...but I still loved it. Then once it was home and on display......the saucer began dipping. The dorsel and lower pylon(engineering) began cracking and these flaws only got worse over time. I tied fishline around the cracking components to hold it together. Then of course the outgassing began and the model discolored. My elecronics always worked fine and still do. I LOVED Unob.'s base design, and the fact that it has starship sounds as well as lighting. Mine cost 1500.00. I eventually got this back from credit card, although the company went belly up.
Now, I'm spending another 1200.00 for another dream. I pray when I open my MR box, I don't have to cry, get angry, or ship it back and wait another 6 months for a replacement that may or may not have subtle problems that grow over a short period. Let's not forget...MR has on individual on staff that used to work for Unobtainium, who'd rather not have his name mentioned as being there when the ill fated prop was first bandied to the public as the Ultimate collectible...a product that bankrupt the company. I even have an audio tape from the court preceedings where 1 of the customer's showed up to try and prove fraud to the judge, and brought along his poor starship model to show.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DrMcoy @ Jan 26 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]1405472[/snapback]</div>
I'm not sure what to think about the creaking. My first thought was that there would be some normally. I would think that some movement would be good to allow for the difference in expansion and contraction rates between the frame and the skin.
I'm working out how to clamp it now so we'll see. Normally, I'd just put white glue on such a crack and then paint but I don't have the exact color so....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pielock373 @ Jan 27 2007, 08:02 AM) [snapback]1405854[/snapback]</div>
I'm working out how to clamp it now so we'll see. Normally, I'd just put white glue on such a crack and then paint but I don't have the exact color so....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pielock373 @ Jan 27 2007, 08:02 AM) [snapback]1405854[/snapback]</div>
Well, if the sig. ed.'s are only up to the 40's out of 500...my LE ..even being a first day orderer through MR's Collect. Soc......I don't see mine shipping any time in Jan. 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Refit1701 @ Jan 25 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]1404739[/snapback]</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Refit1701 @ Jan 25 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]1404739[/snapback]</div>
It's here. And a day early. DHL surprised me.
My first impression is that the grid lines are indeed a little dark on top of the primary hull. The bottom isn't so bad. The weathering is pretty faint, not at all like what I'd see in photos. I do see the weathering on the secondary hull, which I had not realized was on the replica. I'm not going to let the grid lines bother me since no one else who sees it will notice.
I don't see any defects yet, except you can see part of the seam on the rear of the dorsal leading up to the primary hull. It's not a deal breaker for me though.
It's a very heavy ship. My wife was duly impressed (though she's not allowed to touch it
I'm going to start taking pictures here in a little while and get them posted as soon as I can manage it.
I got #42 of 500 SE edition.
John
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Check the grids on this kids.....
TheDuc069 over at ASAP...
Some lighter blotches here and there, maybe from erasures, but overall those grids are pretty subdued.
TheDuc069 over at ASAP...
Some lighter blotches here and there, maybe from erasures, but overall those grids are pretty subdued.
An owner over at the MR board reports that after letting his run for almost 24 hours straight, the motors noise level decreased. He did not have excessively noisy motors, but something to keep in mind and try should it be an issue.
pielock373
Well-Known Member
So I take it the dates the MR throw out , the 26th and the 29th for shippng the LE's was just BS to get us off their backs last week because of the shipping delays? :angry
Steve P
Steve P
At this point, I want to hear about delays hoping they are taking some time since these first ones out the gate have obvious issues.
Anyone notice some have grid lines drawn off center?
Meaning that the center line does not intercept the top front saucer light down the middle?
http://home.rochester.rr.com/gregt/DCP_0286.JPG
Come on MR. Some of this stuff is kitten play.
Get it right.
Anyone notice some have grid lines drawn off center?
Meaning that the center line does not intercept the top front saucer light down the middle?
http://home.rochester.rr.com/gregt/DCP_0286.JPG
Come on MR. Some of this stuff is kitten play.
Get it right.
pielock373
Well-Known Member
Yea that one is very odd isn't it...
pyxl
Well-Known Member
Those off center grid lines are intended...
See, the Enterprise hull uses a transatomic molecular "staining" process instead of paint.
That allows them to change registry, color, etc. digitally.
Those grids are a visual indicator tied directly to the helm, showing the enterprise's heading....so, in effect, the enterprise we see in this image is heading a little to the left.
It's overall heading will be back to MR.
See, the Enterprise hull uses a transatomic molecular "staining" process instead of paint.
That allows them to change registry, color, etc. digitally.
Those grids are a visual indicator tied directly to the helm, showing the enterprise's heading....so, in effect, the enterprise we see in this image is heading a little to the left.
It's overall heading will be back to MR.
Mola Rob
Sr Member
I had to cancel my order but I found a great price on the LE that I could not pass up so I reordered. Despite all the current troubles this is something I have wanted for a long time. I only wish Polar Lights had made a 1/350 scale TOS Enterprise, if they had maybe MR would be paying a little more attention to the quality issues. Hopefully whoever paints the one I end up getting has a light touch and can see straight.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pyxl @ Jan 29 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]1407158[/snapback]</div>
:lol :lol :lol :lol
It's overall heading will be back to MR.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol
pielock373
Well-Known Member
Back to the MR drydock and then sold on the cheep at ebay. Everytime they put a failed E on ebay it just sets wrong with me. They are selling bocken units on ebay before that can get good ones out to the customer. :thumbsdown Classy.
It is a unique product with no competition to speak of, that is a big part of it.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE MR stuff, I have all their TOS props, and a Y-Wing to boot, plus a few sabers, and some I have given as gifts and given a kid a great Christmas.
Pleased with all, as advertised. Though that Y-Wing may get a repaint someday. But I knew what I was getting before hand so no fault on MR there. Just not a dirty enough weathered ship for me.
And it is a major effort to do this ship correctly, they nailed it dead on in so many ways.
There has been major gratitude expressed to MR for taking this on, and I STILL extend that gratitude.
Thank you MR for making this long overdue and desired product.
But as PeeWee said, "why does everyone I know have a big but?"
BUT.......
It just is a little heartbreaking to see some stupid things spoil a stunning product. And the product IS stunning when all is well. I mean getting such minor details as the little joke signs, the screens on the windows in the neck, little details inside the homing beacon, then blow it on things like dark and crooked grids and poor assembly issues? Ok some may have been man handled in shipping sure, but that could only cover a few things so far. No way to know without a shock sensor on the box. Which they make by the way, fairly cheap I believe.
So yeah, we kick it around here sure, and MR SHOULD pay attention to our gripes, at least behind the scenes and feed this info back to the people making them, because they are indeed real. Wether the rest of the run will exhibit such things remains to be seen.
So keeping a cool head and waiting to see how things play out with each new owners review.
I just hope that our input from these early deliverys is being taken to heart and making a difference in the production of this truly unique and amazing product, and they are not just counting returns as the quality metric. The customers satisfaction is the metric.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE MR stuff, I have all their TOS props, and a Y-Wing to boot, plus a few sabers, and some I have given as gifts and given a kid a great Christmas.
Pleased with all, as advertised. Though that Y-Wing may get a repaint someday. But I knew what I was getting before hand so no fault on MR there. Just not a dirty enough weathered ship for me.
And it is a major effort to do this ship correctly, they nailed it dead on in so many ways.
There has been major gratitude expressed to MR for taking this on, and I STILL extend that gratitude.
Thank you MR for making this long overdue and desired product.
But as PeeWee said, "why does everyone I know have a big but?"
BUT.......
It just is a little heartbreaking to see some stupid things spoil a stunning product. And the product IS stunning when all is well. I mean getting such minor details as the little joke signs, the screens on the windows in the neck, little details inside the homing beacon, then blow it on things like dark and crooked grids and poor assembly issues? Ok some may have been man handled in shipping sure, but that could only cover a few things so far. No way to know without a shock sensor on the box. Which they make by the way, fairly cheap I believe.
So yeah, we kick it around here sure, and MR SHOULD pay attention to our gripes, at least behind the scenes and feed this info back to the people making them, because they are indeed real. Wether the rest of the run will exhibit such things remains to be seen.
So keeping a cool head and waiting to see how things play out with each new owners review.
I just hope that our input from these early deliverys is being taken to heart and making a difference in the production of this truly unique and amazing product, and they are not just counting returns as the quality metric. The customers satisfaction is the metric.
pyxl
Well-Known Member
I'm with Cessna on this.
One addition: My wife is a bit taken back by the whole "prop/replica" concept, but she's got a keen eye for business. I was defending the difficulty of producing quality products and maintaining that quality in mass. She said this: "I don't know why you guys are willing to spend over 20 bucks on any of this plastic (geesh...) but it seems to me that the concept of spending over a thousand dollars suggests the end product should be high quality. I mean, c'mon...are they telling you these things cost $800 to make? Even $500? Is it even $300 per model? I know they have marketing costs, production costs..but saying your costs are high doesn't do it. The only reason for you geeks (she does love me, I swear) to drop that much money is it means the world to you. It's a luxury item and should be flawless in quality. I know you monkeys are always going to argue over which doo-hicky goes here and that thingy is supposed to be blue...the poor company can't please all of you, but it should be made well.
I pretty much agree with her too.
One addition: My wife is a bit taken back by the whole "prop/replica" concept, but she's got a keen eye for business. I was defending the difficulty of producing quality products and maintaining that quality in mass. She said this: "I don't know why you guys are willing to spend over 20 bucks on any of this plastic (geesh...) but it seems to me that the concept of spending over a thousand dollars suggests the end product should be high quality. I mean, c'mon...are they telling you these things cost $800 to make? Even $500? Is it even $300 per model? I know they have marketing costs, production costs..but saying your costs are high doesn't do it. The only reason for you geeks (she does love me, I swear) to drop that much money is it means the world to you. It's a luxury item and should be flawless in quality. I know you monkeys are always going to argue over which doo-hicky goes here and that thingy is supposed to be blue...the poor company can't please all of you, but it should be made well.
I pretty much agree with her too.
