MR CloneTrooper Helmet ARRIVES !! PICS !!!

[rudolpht]

Originally posted by Barry@Dec 30 2005, 12:18 PM
When ILM scaled the CloneTroopers larger they didn't rebuild the data files they just scaled them up percentage wise, so everything was proportionately bigger by 2% to 3%.

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Thanks Barry for providing some concrete history. Scaling up 2-3% from was already, as stated by LFL 10+% still leaves the buckets too small proportionately.

Gytheran,
Besides the photoshop tricks you are perpetuating, the size issue was discussed at the time you were doing your ha, ha it's an FX helmet routine. The Surf Camp dude would have to wear his skin on the outside to match the propotions to LFL concept art.

Agreeing with the creative license in filmography, there is a delta between the film world and real world, which is why the helmet is an EXCELLENT shelf hemet and an undersized trooping helmet except for skinny 14 year olds or pinheads. Given that stormie was used as a stand in for composition, one just needs to tip over a stormie, squater by design, and an MR to see the issue.

Sometimes it's easier to stick your head in the sand vs a helmet, though. Regardless the MR was meant to be a collectible, and the disconnect between the advertised paint scheme and the as shipped paint scheme just makes it more collectible.

Echoing Barry, "I think these helmets are incredible." I'm sure good folks did a lot of hard work on them. They are the best display hemets offered, issues and all.

 

[mandybat]

A bit late to jump in....but I've just returned from my xmas hols..
I'd just like to add another COOL to the ones that started arriving on this topic before everybody began nit-picking and posting comparisons.
Variety makes this hobby/obsession as fun as it is, some RP's are super accurate..some are not...but most are cool in their own way.
Steve I hope your clone bucket brings you much joy.

If I ever proudly post a pic of something I have purchased or created I will read the replies from behind the sofa....it seems to get a bit scary sometimes...


(I wonder how many other forumers instantly saved the "DO NOT COPY" trooper pics into their pictures?...it's like saying "DO NOT OPEN UNTIL XMAS" ) :lol

 

[Gytheran]

Originally posted by RE: rudolpht

So the MR helmet is "too small" based on the fact YOU cannot put it on...

I'm not entirely sure what the point of the red lines is, other than to prove they(The CT and TK) are two different helmet designs, in which that specific area cannot be compared. The purpose of the image was to guage the overall size between a 'movie-sized' TK helmet(a point of reference) and the MR CT.

What's this nonsense about "My FX helmet routine" you're whining about? It is widely known the FX is greatly over-sized to what was seen in the movie. This is not a slam or opinion. It is fact. Ask ANYONE who knows their troopers. So, if the FX is "greatly over-sized", it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to compare it to the MR if you're looking for a comparison to movie-sized helmet, does it?

Why is it you cannot have a civil, objective discussion without resorting to personal attacks and alienating anyone who can put the helmet on by calling them "pinheads"? Although it may be your goal to lump me in and goad me into some petty squabble, I have yet to receive my helmets and really have no idea if they will fit or not. Of course, IT DOESN'T MATTER. :lol You still do not understand that 'accurate' does not equate to 'one size fits all'. :confused

And the whole point of my posts have been to determine if it is, indeed, accurately sized... and for the reference MR was provided, that would be an afirmative.

 

[rudolpht]

Originally posted by Gytheran@Dec 30 2005, 01:20 PM
I have yet to receive my helmets and really have no idea if they will fit or not.

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Finally, unlike your photoshop, some honesty. Fanboyism based on doctored images. Science at it's best.

Incidentally my fat head does fit inside, but that does not make it scaled appropriately to an adult earth human wearing TC armor.

As much as you like to take everything out of context and insult while feigning indignation, I still love my MR collectible display helmet.

 

[RKW]

You all keep forgeting that the clones aren't human so don't expect it to fit a human.

MR clearly used the wrong CG file.

 

[TOKI]

"The MR CloneTrooper Helmet is NOT smaller than any of the ones seen on screen"

Rudolph-

When quoting Barry you apparently missed this line. How convenieny you didn't see it.

Arthur

 

[rudolpht]

Originally posted by TOKI@Dec 30 2005, 02:18 PM
"The MR CloneTrooper Helmet is NOT smaller than any of the ones seen on screen"

Rudolph-

When quoting Barry you apparently missed this line. How convenieny you didn't see it.

Arthur

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I quoted what I agreed with, which was the introduction to the statement and quote about thinking they are great helmets. I guess it depends on how big the theater is where you measure screen size. I assume most people are literate and can read Barry's words. I leave it for the rest of the fanboys to regurgitate the MR Old Testament or MR New Testament gospel.

 

[AT-AT Luvah]

With all due respect, Rudolpht, I will take the informed opinion of somebody who actually worked on the helmet over your photoshop examinations any day of the week.

Why can't we just accept what he has to say?

Besides, was this item EVER advertised as a wearable piece? If so, then there is a valid issue to debate. Since it is meant to be a display piece, Master Replicas has delivered what was promised. The only point I'll concede is the unpainted mohawk and their advertised photo with the painted mohawk. But as a reasonable adult, I understand they were working with what was provided and I do not see it as an unforgivable disconnect.

 

[Benkenove]

I really dont understand why you all are trying to impose you viewpoint about the size of the helmet...

Why must the helmet be smaller??? because you say that ??? because it cannot fit your head ???

Man, it has been said that they use the CG files, EXACTLY the same used in the movie... So what´s the problem ???

This is the first time I see a PERFECT helmet (dont care if it´s not weathered)... So guys, if you dont like ti, simply dont buy it, or if you have bought it, sell it...

I really think this kind of chimes are stupid for me...

Sorry for expressing my opinion this way, but I think all of this is stupid...

 

[rudolpht]

Originally posted by AT-AT Luvah@Dec 30 2005, 02:36 PM
Besides, was this item EVER advertised as a wearable piece?  If so, then there is a valid issue to debate. 

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Good point. It was never advertised as Studio scale or as a wearable helmet, though being in a helmet category my make some people infer that, but you know what they say when one "assumes." That is why I say repeatedly it's a great display/collectable helmet, and anyone that collects helmets with an ounce of objectivity will see the rest.

Logic, and facts are negligible, LFL downsizing by 10% to reduce "bobble" and MR screen inaccurately (?) upsizing 2-3% still leaves a delta, maybe not 10-15% that I contended, but a delta none the less. It's a great display piece that doesn't match what was advertised. I have 2, I'll get the rest, I'll be happy, and they'll look great on the shelf where they belong.

 

[The Mantis]

For all of you that HATE your MR helmet please rebox it up and send it to:

David Zaritsky
15 Happy Collector Avenue
Satified, PA 10007

I will hug it, and hold it, and call it George...

 

[KevVader]

Originally posted by AT-AT Luvah@Dec 30 2005, 02:36 PM


....Besides, was this item EVER advertised as a wearable piece?  If so, then there is a valid issue to debate.  Since it is meant to be a display piece, Master Replicas has delivered what was promised.  .

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Yup....straight from the MR site....

"Each helmet is wearable with a fully lined and padded interior with a see-through, tinted plastic lens"

 

[rudolpht]

Originally posted by KevVader+Dec 30 2005, 03:04 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KevVader @ Dec 30 2005, 03:04 PM)</div>

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@Dec 30 2005, 02:36 PM


....Besides, was this item EVER advertised as a wearable piece?  If so, then there is a valid issue to debate.  Since it is meant to be a display piece, Master Replicas has delivered what was promised.  .

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Yup....straight from the MR site....

"Each helmet is wearable with a fully lined and padded interior with a see-through, tinted plastic lens"

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I stand corrected.

 

[qwa_raig]

I think it looks pretty sweet. Is there a way you can drink beer and wear it at the same time? : )

 

[OldKen]

so MR made it 2-3% larger than the movie CG files... and people are complaning that it is too small???

if they woulda made it big enough to fit your heads but was inncorrect purportionately to an accurately purportioned screen used set of armor... wouldnt it then still be incorrect?

wouldnt people then still be bitching???

heres the point... in 76 when they made the original TKs they were pretty small (you guys know this) some of the troops were even WOMEN. which is why i wonder why so many costumers out there insist on being troopers when they are 6'5 400 lbs.

im guessing that LFL wanted teh CTs to resemble the TKs in size so...

i mean that would be like if and when MR makes a 3P0 "head" for most it wont be wearable... but for some it would be a helmet...

i for one bet i could wear the MR CT because i fit in screen accurate TK stuff...

is this not the case? or were you guys really wanting a bobble head FX CT???

i dont get it, and dont want to read every page since the bashing began, so please enlighten me, how many of you that cant fit in it also cant fit in a TE or GF TK???

 

[AT-AT Luvah]

Kev, thanks for the clarification. Then, okay, I stand corrected.

However, the debate then becomes that Master Replicas should have stated that one size does NOT fit all.

See, I can admit when I'm wrong.

Thanks.

Hector

 

[foxbatkllr]

Enough arguing. Post more pics, especially of people wearing them... Since I cannot afford one of these helmets at the moment I'm hoping to live vicariously through those who already have one, lol.

 

[The Stig]

It's not that the helmets are out of scale, it's that you're out of scale with the CG files... now go lose some head fat.

 

[rudolpht]

Originally posted by The Mantis@Dec 30 2005, 03:04 PM
For all of you that HATE your MR helmet please rebox it up and send it to:

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David, I thought you lived in Satisfied, PA

And you can have my MR (mispainted or misadvertised) undersized excellent Clone Trooper display helmets (4 total) when you pry them from my cold dead hands.

Tim

 

[Benkenove]

However, the debate then becomes that Master Replicas should have stated that one size does NOT fit all.

It´s more than clear that if you make any costume, helmet or whatever MOVIE SIZE cannot be a "ONE SIZE FIT ALL"... Image that you are a big guy, or fat one.. with a big head... This would be insane...

It´s MOVIE ACCURATE, 1:1 size... that means that is an especific size... not a ONE SIZE FIT ALL ... ...

We are not kids, we should not need everything chewed... It´s understood...