Moebius Battlestar Galactica. The old one!

[Eagle-1]

Noseless and lumpless.

 

[Eagle-1]

That last bit of surgery made it possible to mount that bridge right where it needs to be. Flat and level and lined up very closely to where it would be forever...

It's too big, too wide and the ramp is too long and the model doesn't exactly lay out proportionally.

Still, like I said, I AM NOT CRITCIZING ANYTHING, but that comparison doesn't lie. As it sits right there, it needs to go back a smidgeon or two and It looks like that will put it very close to where it needs to be? I cam make my new nose a little wider (which it certainly looks like it needs to be) and that should help with the width?

 

[Analyzer]

I might consider moving the bridge back just a few millimeters

i.e. line the back of the bridge up evenly with the back of the studio model bridge.

I might also shave half a mm to a mm off the flat part of the back ramp on the bridge?

I am going to try a similar positioning as well as redoing the ramp in front

 

[edge10]

I agree, I think the main issue with the Moebius kit as you mentioned is the nose part is too long

It looks like the Studio model has a stubbier one and the round raised parts and other greeblies in front of the bridge are too far back.

You almost have to rebuild that ramp section if using the Shapeways bridge or make some kind of compromise

that's what was done here

Modifying + re-fitting the new Moebius TOS Galactica - - - yes, I dare!

Hey folks! Maybe you remember my 2007 TOS Galactica scratchbuilt in 1:4105 scale: Moebius was so kind to send me a testshot of their upcoming TOS Galactica kit. WOW! That kit is simply amazing! The fit of the parts is perfect, detailling is superb and the overall look out of the box is...

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I did warn that once you start looking at the details on how to fit the bridge it opens a whole can of worms and you start seeing how off some of the details/shapes really are

It reminds me of this

take the red pill and go down the rabbit hole of fixing the ramp or take the blue pill and remain blissfully ignorant

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After nine years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.

 

[Eagle-1]

After nine years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.

Well you just stick with me! I'll un-educate you in ways you ain't never... even... Hold up?

 

[edge10]

 

[Duncanator]

That last bit of surgery made it possible to mount that bridge right where it needs to be. Flat and level and lined up very closely to where it would be forever...

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It's too big, too wide and the ramp is too long and the model doesn't exactly lay out proportionally.

Still, like I said, I AM NOT CRITCIZING ANYTHING, but that comparison doesn't lie. As it sits right there, it needs to go back a smidgeon or two and It looks like that will put it very close to where it needs to be? I cam make my new nose a little wider (which it certainly looks like it needs to be) and that should help with the width?

I'd suggest that you are closer than you think.
Your photo was taken with a different lens and camera at a different distance from a different sized model at very likely a different angle to the surface of the model - all factors that will change how things line up and how large they appear relative to one another.

You are doing some great work on a super fine scale!

 

[Eagle-1]

I'd suggest that you are closer than you think.
Your photo was taken with a different lens and camera at a different distance from a different sized model at very likely a different angle to the surface of the model - all factors that will change how things line up and how large they appear relative to one another.

You are doing some great work on a super fine scale!

Yes sir, I don't mean for it to be an exact comparison and I understand and agree with everything you just said...

However...

That bridge extends much farther up that nose, when compared to the Moebius model photo, than that studio model does. The bridge on the studio model is completely contained within that panel made "chevron" detail on top of the model and stops short of the panels with the burgundy stripes on either side of it. No matter how I take the pictures of mine or the original was photographed.

Also, I gotta watch what I do here because the studio model does have a fairly pronounced proboscis as compared to the bridge and how it all gels together on the forward section of the Galactica. If I shorten that nose up too much, it'll stick out like a sore thumb as wrong. What I REALLY need to do here is make that bridge fit this model, but it looks so good I can't stand the thought of doing something that I can't recover from. I don't think Mr. Analyzer will continue to send me more.

I really do appreciate the input here Mr. Duncanator and Thank you for the compliment! Welcome to a build that shoulda happened 10 or 15 years ago when this came out (?)! Thank everyone here with me too for any help as usual!

 

[moonbus]

If you are comfortable with silicone mold making you could try to shrink it with Terpenoid infused silicone. A method one of my coworkers used to shrink objects.

 

[Eagle-1]

Possibly?

Maybe?

It's possible?

I've dabbled?

Seems fairly straight forward?

I can learn?

De-gassed Rubber and pressure cast parts. Now, these are for Space:1999 studio scale builds, but I would imagine Battlestar Galactica techniques wouldn't vary much?

 

[Eagle-1]

If you are comfortable with silicone mold making you could try to shrink it with Terpenoid infused silicone. A method one of my coworkers used to shrink objects.

Yes sir Mr. moonbus, I've made a cast, and all this kidding aside, I haven't shrunk a mold before. Mr. Alex Dumas sent me the method he used to create a small scale "Swift" from Space:1999 (which some here may have seen?), but I've never tried it. His parts came out PERFECT, 'cept smaller, so I'm positive his technique will work, but Please DO share yours too and let me compare notes in case things have changed? That was YEARS ago.

 

[Eagle-1]

This is my first foray into the world of Battlestar Galactica. Space:1999 is where i come from.

 

[moonbus]

Oh man you have the lazar tanks how cool. Space 1999 is where it all started for me. About the terpenoid, all I remember was my co worker had a table that told him if he wants to shrink his mold by 10% he had to add ??% terpenoid by weight I think. Mix the terpenoid into the silicone and cast as usual. Remove the part and form and let the terpenoid dry out until the mold shrinks no more. This was also years ago. He did this process about 6 times, and by the 4th repeat the object was starting to look kind of melted. Sorry I'm not more help, but I hope someone here might chime in if you could tell us how much you want to shrink it by.

 

[Eagle-1]

Oh man you have the lazar tanks how cool. Space 1999 is where it all started for me. About the terpenoid, all I remember was my co worker had a table that told him if he wants to shrink his mold by 10% he had to add ??% terpenoid by weight I think. Mix the terpenoid into the silicone and cast as usual. Remove the part and form and let the terpenoid dry out until the mold is the size you want. Sorry I'm not more help, but I hope someone here might chime in if you could tell us how much you want to shrink it by.

Started there for me for sure. Been doing Space:1999 for a long time now. Built MANY of those tanks. I don't have the laser tanks, I build them and I can show you if you want your own? It's not a kit of any kind now, alotta scratch building will be involved, but I can help you with anything you need, except a 1/25th TAMIYA Chieftain. Wanna build all 3 tanks? You'll need three chieftains, but I have all the 100% accurate parts for all three tanks, measurements and decals.

That HAWK I posted earlier is all mine too. That's what the majority of the cast parts I showed are for.

 

[moonbus]

So much cool stuff. The Chieften, yes. Are those the soft vinyl tracks from the kit?

 

[Analyzer]

I love the Space 1999 stuff!

Very impressive work

I am just a kit builder and have built up MPCs new 1/72 Hawk straight out of the box

1/72 Space 1999 Hawk MK IX

MPC/Round 2 It was quite a change working on something other than Bandai snap kits. I forgot what it was like to work on a glue kit :lol:

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Your scratch build of it is fantastic

Although I did do a lot of scratch building and mod work on the old MPC 1/100 Eagle by opening up the cages and building the stuff inside, modding the spine angle and adding pipping for the engines

MPC Space 1999 Eagle Transporter

I always loved the design of the Eagle Transporter. This kit is listed as 1/72, but it is closer to 1/100 or so. There is also a lot of shape issues with the kit as well as not having an open cage which really helps sell the look of the kit. I have seen lots of amazing builds that leave little...

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[Eagle-1]

So much cool stuff. The Chieften, yes. Are those the soft vinyl tracks from the kit?

Thank you!

The entire chassis gets used from the Chieftain as well as numerationous parts from it.

Check out this one...

(If we're allowed to add youtube links here, I'll do that?

I love the Space 1999 stuff!

Me too Mr. Analyzer! I told you the Galactica wasn't my only thing and told y'all I wanted y'all's input when I started it. I really do appreciate y'all watching me screw this thing up!

Very impressive work

Tryin' to make me blush??? On page 17???

I am just a kit builder and have built up MPCs new 1/72 Hawk straight out of the box

1/72 Space 1999 Hawk MK IX

MPC/Round 2 It was quite a change working on something other than Bandai snap kits. I forgot what it was like to work on a glue kit :lol:

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Your scratch build of it is fantastic

I'm just a kit builder too, don't try to add things to me that ain't there. Just happens to be studio scale stuff this time, that's all. Thank you again.

Although I did do a lot of scratch building and mod work on the old MPC 1/100 Eagle by opening up the cages and building the stuff inside, modding the spine angle and adding pipping for the engines

MPC Space 1999 Eagle Transporter

I always loved the design of the Eagle Transporter. This kit is listed as 1/72, but it is closer to 1/100 or so. There is also a lot of shape issues with the kit as well as not having an open cage which really helps sell the look of the kit. I have seen lots of amazing builds that leave little...

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Well, you would have had to with that one, now wouldn't you have.

Man, this thread took off down a whole new gravel road, didn't it.

FOCUS ON THE GALACTICA. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

(Thank you felleas... )

 

[Eagle-1]

Alright y'all! I didn't fall into no hole or nuthin', as I'm certain some of you all musta thunked I did.

I have made this bridge, although it's STILL a little too big for this model, fit just about as close as I can get it and it seems to look closer to me.

What I ended up doing here, and some of the pictures won't be very clear trying to show some of this, I removed the rear ramp from the bridge and I shaved that rear ramp down on all 4 sides. As y'all saw earlier, I removed the nose again and sliced off AT LEAST 2 MM from the front edge. I went all the way up (for those with this kit) to the first scribed panel line from the tip and removed all that. This ended up being the biggest help. Then, I removed the rear wall from the bridge and moved it forward just a tad. This ended up not being much at all because I didn't want to go deep into the detail on it, but I did shave just a bit and added the rear wall back in.

Worst fix on this whole thing was, right in the middle of all that foolin' around with that rear ramp, I broke off those tiny guns. That didn't look good at all, so I had to make some more.

Please forgive some of these bad pictures. The old NIKON seems to want to focus exactly where it wants to and it's not ideal sometimes.

Now, as I'm showing with these next pictures, I've also added little details as seen on the original (to the best I can, of course) in the form of springs, hinges, doo-hickeys, thingamajigs, snozewankers and greeblies. Still in the middle of some of this as we speak.

It won't be long we gone see if I can't ruin ALL this. It's about to get primed.

Y'all cross your fingers.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Analyzer]

That was a lot of work, but I think it looks perfect that way

 

[edge10]

Looking really good!

On a serious note: When assembling the top and bottom of the gator head, take care, as there are no stops for the locator pins. I had a pair get stuck together, when they were pushed too far.

Moebius was kind enough to send me a replacement, for a nominal fee.