Marvel's SECRET WARS

[Pepperbone]

I can't imagine Secret Wars not happening. And hopefully the Russos will drive it.

D23 should be interesting this year.

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[Ron]

Secret Wars would need to have Iron Man and Cap back as well as some notable villains that haven't appeared yet in the MCU. It's a lot of characters to pack into one movie if they don't make it a two-parter, maybe even three.

The other question is will it serve as an introduction event that introduces the likes of the Fantastic 4 and X-Men or a culmination event like Infinity War. IMHO a culmination event makes way more sense since you need time to build up the new heroes and villains if you want the stakes to be high.

I don't know, as much as I wanted a live-action Secret Wars since I was a kid, I'm burned out on the Marvel formula. Do audiences feel the same way or are they up for a couple of more rounds of movies? We shall see.

 

[Laspector]

Agreed. I'm not really down for another huge team-up movie for a good long while. Let's get back to some personal stories. If they want to spend several years building towards that, fine. But don't just do it for the sake of doing it.

 

[Riceball]

Secret Wars would need to have Iron Man and Cap back as well as some notable villains that haven't appeared yet in the MCU. It's a lot of characters to pack into one movie if they don't make it a two-parter, maybe even three.

The other question is will it serve as an introduction event that introduces the likes of the Fantastic 4 and X-Men or a culmination event like Infinity War. IMHO a culmination event makes way more sense since you need time to build up the new heroes and villains if you want the stakes to be high.

I don't know, as much as I wanted a live-action Secret Wars since I was a kid, I'm burned out on the Marvel formula. Do audiences feel the same way or are they up for a couple of more rounds of movies? We shall see.

You're assuming that they'd adapt the story more or less as it was depicted in the comics. Chances are more likely that the comics will serve as a staring point with the base plot being more or less the seam but will differ in the details and characters.

 

[George]

Secret Wars would need to have Iron Man and Cap back as well as some notable villains that haven't appeared yet in the MCU. It's a lot of characters to pack into one movie if they don't make it a two-parter, maybe even three.

The other question is will it serve as an introduction event that introduces the likes of the Fantastic 4 and X-Men or a culmination event like Infinity War. IMHO a culmination event makes way more sense since you need time to build up the new heroes and villains if you want the stakes to be high.

I don't know, as much as I wanted a live-action Secret Wars since I was a kid, I'm burned out on the Marvel formula. Do audiences feel the same way or are they up for a couple of more rounds of movies? We shall see.

We already have the multiverse
I'm sure Cap & Downey are alive elsewhere (and then in an act of Marvel madness team up with Spidey once more ). To quote Brad Garrett in Everybody loves Raymond:"Catch the fever!!"

 

[JoeG]

Just like Riceball said, they're not going to attempt to adapt the 80s comic version of Secret Wars (or Secret Wars II) or even the version from the 2000s. Just like they didn't adapt the Infinity Gauntlet series exactly as it was in the comics. They'll do their own version. Especially since the original Secret Wars was basically just a marketing tool to sell action figures.

 

[Ron]

Sure, I would expect that it would be more of an adaptation. I agree. I think it would have to be. My thing is more the characters. There's only so many you can fit. Then, do they go with the newer ones (Captain Sam, Miles, Jane, etc.) or do they stick with the classic lineup? Only speaking for myself obviously but I have no interest in any characters from the past generation of comics and even though they're gone in the main MCU timeline, Cap and Iron Man would have to return for me to get invested.

 

[Treadwell]

I'd have no problem with a new interpretation. Although I bought them all, I don't recall being particularly fond of the story. I was mostly a Spidey guy, so the introduction of the black costume is the main thing I remember. Since I didn't follow the other books, it was my introduction to many of the characters. Cap was really cold and bossy, and that was my impression of him for a long time.

And one of the bad guys was made of "solidified sound"? Gimme a break.

 

[Ron]

I mean yeah, let's be honest here. It was basically a spectacle event to begin with as most comic crossover events are.

 

[Cephus]

I mean yeah, let's be honest here. It was basically a spectacle event to begin with as most comic crossover events are.

Which is why Marvel went from having spectacle events once or twice a decade to having them multiple times a year. It's all about trying to milk the rapidly dwindling audience.

 

[JPH]

You're assuming that they'd adapt the story more or less as it was depicted in the comics. Chances are more likely that the comics will serve as a staring point with the base plot being more or less the seam but will differ in the details and characters.

Agreed!

but...

They need to have that scene where cap's shield is in pieces.

 

[JPH]

Which is why Marvel went from having spectacle events once or twice a decade to having them multiple times a year. It's all about trying to milk the rapidly dwindling audience.

I think they are more striking while the post Covid/lockdown memories are still fresh.

I don"t know if it will be another Top Gun, but folks are jonesing for excuses to see movies.

And EPIC stuff too! Imax or 4D, wearing your Secret Wars exclusive t-shirt while you enjoy a beverage and popcorn in a limited edition bucket and cup that you can later sell on ebay to break even

 

[Cephus]

I think they are more striking while the post Covid/lockdown memories are still fresh.

I don"t know if it will be another Top Gun, but folks are jonesing for excuses to see movies.

And EPIC stuff too! Imax or 4D, wearing your Secret Wars exclusive t-shirt while you enjoy a beverage and popcorn in a limited edition bucket and cup that you can later sell on ebay to break even

Not me. I have zero interest. Hollywood is making mostly big, dumb action flicks with lots of explosions and zero intellect. I haven't stepped foot in a theater in decades and, so far as I'm concerned, never will again. I'm not in it for the hype, I'm in it for the quality and that seems to have gone almost completely extinct these days.

 

[JPH]

Not me. I have zero interest. Hollywood is making mostly big, dumb action flicks with lots of explosions and zero intellect. I haven't stepped foot in a theater in decades and, so far as I'm concerned, never will again. I'm not in it for the hype, I'm in it for the quality and that seems to have gone almost completely extinct these days.

Well, it *is* supposed to be entertainment. I have no desire to see The NoteBook in 3d or ImAX, but BIGGER, BRIGHTER and LOUDER for dumb entertainment is how entertainment goes. No one wants to ride a rollercoaster that is being passed up by folks using walkers. Fonzie jumping a tadpole won't attract an audience, Mr. C.

As long as it isn't woke preaching or gutting a franchise I will be happy that I watched it -- I don't have to eat poop to know that it taste bad.
In decades of not going, that means you are missing out on the new gimmicks. Improved BOOMING SOUND and high-detailed, upped framerate image might be worth a try, just to see what if it piques your interest. And sometimes it isn't as much about the movie as it is gathering a crowd of friends and creating an excuse to get together, Conan reboot and Fright Night double feature anyone? How were they? So so

I have a friend who is homebound, and once a week I buy/bring whatever they wanna eat and we watch ...whatever. Sometimes I leave inspired, and sometimes I don't. Atleast I give it a whirl (try).

 

[Cephus]

Well, it *is* supposed to be entertainment. I have no desire to see The NoteBook in 3d or ImAX, but BIGGER, BRIGHTER and LOUDER for dumb entertainment is how entertainment goes. No one wants to ride a rollercoaster that is being passed up by folks using walkers. Fonzie jumping a tadpole won't attract an audience, Mr. C.

It doesn't do any of that for me. I have nothing against action, but if that's all that's on offer, I lose interest quickly. Same as CGI porn. If it's all just flashy effects, I stop caring. Maybe that's because I'm older, but I actually expect a good movie, not just 2 hours of flashy effects and vapid characters.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

Secret Wars would need to have Iron Man and Cap back as well as some notable villains that haven't appeared yet in the MCU. It's a lot of characters to pack into one movie if they don't make it a two-parter, maybe even three.

The other question is will it serve as an introduction event that introduces the likes of the Fantastic 4 and X-Men or a culmination event like Infinity War. IMHO a culmination event makes way more sense since you need time to build up the new heroes and villains if you want the stakes to be high.

I don't know, as much as I wanted a live-action Secret Wars since I was a kid, I'm burned out on the Marvel formula. Do audiences feel the same way or are they up for a couple of more rounds of movies? We shall see.

I’m kind of over it. Endgame was the Marvel send off I needed.

None of the movies have made me want to watch them since Endgame. I haven’t even watched them on Disney + …

The MCU shows have been sliding downhill with each successive show and I’m just sort of burned out on them.

If Secret Wars is another multi movie, multi year thing, I won’t even be bothered with it.

Tony Stark is dead, Steve Rogers is gone, Black Widow is dead, Hulk is a half and half hybrid soft Hulk, and Hawkeye retired after his show, so I kind of don’t care anymore.

Thor’s movie didn’t even draw me in at D+, haven’t watched it.

I watched Black Widow going into it knowing she was dead and didn’t really care about what was going on in it, and I slept through half of it and didn’t bother to rewind it when I woke up.

Man… I sound like my grandpa!

 

[Pepperbone]

Man… I sound like my grandpa!

No. You sound exactly the way you should.

The films leading to Endgame were awesome, and Endgame was it. A great ending to a 10-year run.

It's like having a great party with fun people, then the fun people leave, and the not-as-fun people try to keep the party alive.

I watched WandaVision, Cap/Winter and Loki, and by the time I was done with Loki I felt bloated with Marvel content. They were good shows, but as much as I love dessert: by then I had enough. MoonKnight, Black Widow, and on and on... No. I'm full now.

I liked how Endgame made me feel once it was over. I had been surprisingly, successfully entertained, and they made it clear it was time to move on. So, I'm moving on.

Thanks for the meal, Marvel. It was truly delicious.

 

[enterprise0216]

Everyone has really solid points. I am comic collector as well with other Sci Fi genre. Marvel Movies are good when they are done in moderation. Maybe two a year. However, it's gone a bit bonkers. Marvel does several movies here and more Marvel movies there. Eventually many comic book fans who love heroes/villain's will make people lose interest on several fronts. It's like every year here is another 2 to 3 movies and lets not forget streaming services. At the rate Kevin Feige and his staff are going they will eventually catch up to where comic book storyline are now.

Don't get me wrong Marvel is a money maker, but they literally milking the cow dry. Like with anything good less is great makes people want more later even if there is a 2 year gap. Not all at once than there is nothing on the back end. Its becoming more and more apparent i even hear it at the comic book stores. Some folks are excited about the next movie. On the hand many folks are like its just to soon they needs to be more further apart. Many fans are not to sure what they want. To watch just wait on movies or just watch streaming and forget the movies. LOL Let's not forget DC either who are trailing behind Marvel heal. Black Adam is coming out soon and if they hit a home run great, but it make take alot more to save DC making comic book movies.

How i miss the good ole days have the Lone Ranger, Space Ghost, Black Star Etc etc. LMAO!!

 

[Ron]

Yeah, I'm just not into Marvel anymore. Even long before Endgame, my interest was waning. Seeing how poorly phase 4 has been received, I don't see anything that could bring me back. I am looking forward to Deadpool 3 but I don't consider that an MCU franchise even though it officially is now.

I was thinking about this recently. It's not just Marvel. It's the whole slate of formulated, tent pole movies and shows that have come out in this generation of cinema and TV that I'm burned out on. I think that's why Top Gun was such a hit. It was a refreshing change back to when movies were more than just green-screened, incoherent spectacles. Incidentally, I think it's also why the popularity of re-screening older movies has risen. Audiences are thirsty for great movies and not just "content" to fill a couple of hours of their time. Quality over quantity as it were.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

If a cheeseburger is your favorite meal, great. But if you eat it too often, you eventually get tired of it and leave it along for a while.

Just like JJ Trek. It failed because he didn’t get Trek. Trek movies were winter films that were solid stories. Not summer blockbusters that we’re full of explosions and edge or your seat thrills.