TK9120
Sr Member
You may be right about that. I think the new Jacob will either be Jack or Hurley. But if it's Jack I could picture your scene happening.
Lost season 6 with spoilers beware
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You may be right about that. I think the new Jacob will either be Jack or Hurley. But if it's Jack I could picture your scene happening.
cboath
Master Member
At some point, the MIB was contained in the cabin in the jungle. We don't know when he was contained, we only know he got out in season 3 or 4. He could have been captured prior to the building of the hatches.
Westies14
Master Member
We did see (in a way) one of the late-era dharmaites setting about building the cabin, I believe it was during Locke's vision quest or whatever. The hatch would already have existed, if this is the case...
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cboath
Master Member
Maybe he was capture elsewhere at the time. I doubt we'll get answers to that stuff either.
We saw the smoke in season 1 and 2 as well.
He seemed to go after the black rock crew once the storm ended and they woke up. We could also then ask why he didn't just storm the beach after the losties landed (and the tailes) and wipe them all out day one as well. It's not like he's going to miss two sections of 767 or whatever landing on either side of the island.
Maybe he didn't feel the time was right, who knows. It'd probably be like trying to guess why a sociopathic serial killer picks the victims he does. There's not always a logical reason for it. Being trapped on a deserted island has to be boring. Maybe the dharma folks and the building of their hatches and whatnot was entertainment for him. Like a 1970's reality show or something. Watching gave him something to do other than stare at the ocean all day.
We saw the smoke in season 1 and 2 as well.
He seemed to go after the black rock crew once the storm ended and they woke up. We could also then ask why he didn't just storm the beach after the losties landed (and the tailes) and wipe them all out day one as well. It's not like he's going to miss two sections of 767 or whatever landing on either side of the island.
Maybe he didn't feel the time was right, who knows. It'd probably be like trying to guess why a sociopathic serial killer picks the victims he does. There's not always a logical reason for it. Being trapped on a deserted island has to be boring. Maybe the dharma folks and the building of their hatches and whatnot was entertainment for him. Like a 1970's reality show or something. Watching gave him something to do other than stare at the ocean all day.
Capn_Jack_Savvy
Sr Member
Interesting prediction about the last two remaining people on the beach:
Not Locke Monster and Jackob!!!
Not Locke Monster and Jackob!!!
maboot38
Well-Known Member
Ah, ah, ah. Don't forget, Dharma had the "sound fence" keep out the smoke monster. Remember when it was chasing Kate and Juliette right after their mudwrestling match?
cboath
Master Member
True, but only the barracks were inside the barrier. I was addressing why smokie didn't off everyone on the island during dharma times. The sonic fence wasn't protecting any of the hatches. Had to take a long time to build each of them and therefore all the workers and supervisors would be fair game for smokie. But he didn't wipe them out. He didn't seek out kate and Juliet either, he just came upon them.
Like I said, we likely aren't getting an answer as to why he killed of some people but not others.
Another one which I doubt we'll get an answer to is why does the noise assoicated with smokie have gears or chains to it and sound so mechanical?
Like I said, we likely aren't getting an answer as to why he killed of some people but not others.
Another one which I doubt we'll get an answer to is why does the noise assoicated with smokie have gears or chains to it and sound so mechanical?
Larry Young
Master Member
We pretty much have, already. The ones on Jacob's Lists (both the fake one in the cave and the real one at the lighthouse) are protected by The Rules. Dogen says as much in Japanese to Hurley in the Temple a few eps back. "I'd kill you if you weren't protected."
oblagon
Sr Member
Concerning the mechanical noise with smoky; we to date have never gotten the connection between him and Rose. In the first episode Rose said the noise sounded familiar to her. Why? I agree with you, we probably will never get an answer.
With the Dharma workers I doubt every one of them was a candidate and there for off limits to smoky. Most likely the MIB was planning steps to use them to eliminate Jacob.
For example, we still don't know who ordered the purge of the Dharma group; my guess is that it was the MIB and that from his point of view it was the first of many steps using the survivors/others to get where he is now.
Jedi2016
Sr Member
Actually, the answer to that question is far simpler, and is worth nothing in the scheme of things.. the effect of the "chittering" noise that it makes is the sound of a New York taxi's receipt printer. Rose is from Brooklyn. That's all it is.. it literally just sounded familiar to her, there's no connection there at all.
The more interesting question after this last episode is how the monster can make those noises long before any mechanical device existed that could make those sounds. It's been theorized that back in Season 1, it was making noises pulled from the memories of the Losties, in order to sound more "scary", but now we know it was making those noises at least 150 years earlier.
Is anybody else disappointed in how young Richard really is? They kept implying this huge length of time that he'd been on the island.. "He's had that job for a very.. VERY long time." "Longer than you can possibly imagine!!" and "Richard? He's always been here." I'd gotten the impression from all of that that he'd been there a lot longer than a measly 150 years. I was thinking more like thousands of years, from the Egyptian times. Now, I know 150 years is a really long time for a normal person, but the Island ain't exactly normal.
Noeland
Master Member
Yeah, I think the writers were just having a little fun with that. I don't think either of them is "the devil".
oblagon
Sr Member
Nice:lol
Back when the writers said everything mystical was going to be explained away by science. I thought the chittering noise was from the magnetic field controlling the black cloud and Rose heard that noise from the machinery while undergoing radiation therapy.
Larry Young
Master Member
Man, that noise is quite the Rorschach Test; to me it sounds like Jacob Marley dragging his chains around.
Mechinyun
Sr Member
Excellent video about the smoke monster sound.. wish they had kept with this idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEG9z3PZdFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEG9z3PZdFs
Knightsaber
Sr Member
I heard somewhere that it was originally pitched as a movie...not sure of the validity of that though.
SmilingOtter
Master Member
Not necessarily "always" in a literal sense. More like "as far back as there's been continuous human presence (Dharma/Others) there's been Richard."
Noeland
Master Member
Watching supernatural tonight reminded me that Titus Welliver, who plays smokey in his "original" form, played the one of the horseman of the apocalypse. WAR.
Which makes the roles they play on LOST even funnier!
Jacob is the devil, and the man in black is war. Awesome.
ABC wanted a scripted dramatic version of Survivor. The producers talked about it a few times in the first few seasons in interviews, and I believe one of the early podcasts. That's why they had two camps of survivors, and IMHO why Richard looks like Jeff Probst.
Which makes the roles they play on LOST even funnier!
Jacob is the devil, and the man in black is war. Awesome.
ABC wanted a scripted dramatic version of Survivor. The producers talked about it a few times in the first few seasons in interviews, and I believe one of the early podcasts. That's why they had two camps of survivors, and IMHO why Richard looks like Jeff Probst.
