Lost season 6 with spoilers beware

But then we found out that he was a regular guy who just wanted to leave and see the world, but Not-Mom said no and her explanation was "because." Since the protector needed to keep people away from the light, allowing him to get as far away from it as possible would be a great idea.

Maybe because she was afraid that he would decide to come back and bring more people with him.
 
So.. If jacob and mib couldn't leave the island..

why was jacob touching everyone in their pasts?

who the hell was watching the island when he was screwing around with everyone on the mainland?

Just another massive loophole in the "rules" that ended up just being a bunch of hogwash that they never cared to explain.
 
So.. If jacob and mib couldn't leave the island..

why was jacob touching everyone in their pasts?

who the hell was watching the island when he was screwing around with everyone on the mainland?

Just another massive loophole in the "rules" that ended up just being a bunch of hogwash that they never cared to explain.

I wonder if he ever left the island, or if he was doing some sort of 'astral projection', possibly via the mirrors in his lighthouse. As we saw all throughout this season, mirrors seem to be the vehicle by which people can catch glimpses/feelings of other places/planes/realities, and each of the lighthouse mirrors provided a direct line to the candidates, wherever in the world they happened to be.
 
I rewatched the finale, and still agree. One of the best endings of a series to date. I have always believed that this show was centered on faith, and to believe anything that was going on you had to have some faith. Fitting end, that everything they had been through did'nt matter, only what decisions they made and friendships mattered:thumbsup
 
I'd have liked to see Ben kill MIB instead of Kate. That's better because:

  • Ben killed Jacob. To redeem himself he should have been the one to kill MIB
  • Ben also killed Locke, so it would have been a nice mirror image there too.

There was no real reason for it to be Kate other than she loved Jack.
 
The island is apparently impossible to reach unless the island's protector let's you in.

No, you just have to know the bearings. The Lighthouse Station can calculate its position in space and time, which accounts for how my man Lapidus got the helicopter in, how the freighter found it, and how Ben was able to give Michael the "325" bearing at the end of Season Two.
 
No, you just have to know the bearings. The Lighthouse Station can calculate its position in space and time, which accounts for how my man Lapidus got the helicopter in, how the freighter found it, and how Ben was able to give Michael the "325" bearing at the end of Season Two.

Well that's where the writers gave themselves the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card by giving themselves the 'God wills it' button. All of the instances you cite where someone was able to find the island 'on their own' could have just as easily been a case of Jacob's manipulation of events. Every single thing that ever happened on this series, good or bad, could be said to have guided the characters toward the final resolution of events. I don't think it's possible to say that anything that ever happened on this show happened by accident, or because someone acted outside of Jacob's expectations.
 
I'd have liked to see Ben kill MIB instead of Kate. That's better because:

  • Ben killed Jacob. To redeem himself he should have been the one to kill MIB
  • Ben also killed Locke, so it would have been a nice mirror image there too.

There was no real reason for it to be Kate other than she loved Jack.

I COMPLETELY agree with this. I still wish for the LOTR ending where Ben plays the Gollum role of the character who, being inherently flawed, ends up doing the right thing for the wrong reason. If Ben shot Locke, even if he did so as an act of vengeance (which would be considered ignoble or 'bad'), he would have performed a good service. Having Kate do it seemed like a case of the writers throwing a truly superfluous character a bone and a reason for being there. I would rather Kate had died of the gunshot wound. She was utterly worthless in the finale.
 
/\ Except for the scenes of her in that dress during the concert! WOWZA!!!!!! Hummuna! Hummuna! Hummuna!!!!!

Charlie you lucky dog (in real life!)
 
/\ Except for the scenes of her in that dress during the concert! WOWZA!!!!!! Hummuna! Hummuna! Hummuna!!!!!

Charlie you lucky dog (in real life!)

Well to be clear, sideways Kate of course needed to be there, but on the island she could easily have been killed off (as could Sawyer, Miles and every other non-essential member of the gang) and still made their necessary appearance in the church scene.

No way I'd argue about Kate rocking the black dress. :love
 
I don't think it's possible to say that anything that ever happened on this show happened by accident, or because someone acted outside of Jacob's expectations.

Yeah? Ben certainly seemed surprised that Keamy was able to kill Alex. I guess this would be a lot less fluid to discuss if anyone had any idea what "the rules" actually were. :)
 
No, you just have to know the bearings. The Lighthouse Station can calculate its position in space and time, which accounts for how my man Lapidus got the helicopter in, how the freighter found it, and how Ben was able to give Michael the "325" bearing at the end of Season Two.
Yeah, the technologically advanced Dharma Initiative and Widmore's people have the resources and technology to find it. If pre-smokey MiB left the island and then wanted to come back, I don't think Roman sailors would be able to find it.

Also remember that Faraday's mom could find the island with the Lighthouse station, but the six had to see "if the island would take them back."

My point was, the possibility that MiB might come back with friends is not a compelling reason to prevent him from leaving at any cost.
 
Hey so whatever happened to Roussou? She had been on the island along time! Shouldn't she have had a role with the Losties? She had been on the island a very, very, very long time!!! I wonder what caused her extended stay on the island other than going crazy like Claire!
 
Yeah? Ben certainly seemed surprised that Keamy was able to kill Alex. I guess this would be a lot less fluid to discuss if anyone had any idea what "the rules" actually were. :)

But Ben's not Jacob...I'm just saying that there's nothing to indicate that ANYTHING happened on the island that Jacob didn't anticipate, and possibly even manipulate into happening. Even his own death at Ben's hand seemed engineered (just as Mother seems to have engineered her own demise).
 
Yeah, the technologically advanced Dharma Initiative and Widmore's people have the resources and technology to find it. If pre-smokey MiB left the island and then wanted to come back, I don't think Roman sailors would be able to find it.

Also remember that Faraday's mom could find the island with the Lighthouse station, but the six had to see "if the island would take them back."

My point was, the possibility that MiB might come back with friends is not a compelling reason to prevent him from leaving at any cost.

Well this is a fair point, and begs the question of how much of Jacob's power MIB shared. If we accept the premise that Jacob controls everything that happens on the island and that he has final say over who can find it and who can't, then why WAS he so adamant about MIB not being allowed to leave? If Jacob is all-powerful with regard to who comes and goes from the island, then why couldn't he simply prevent MIB from ever finding it again? Maybe MIB was the one person Jacob wouldn't be able to hide the island from? This might explain why Mother was so disturbed by MIB's birth, and why she kept him so close--he's an unknown variable, and she knew that if he was allowed to leave the island, he could find his way back there whether she wanted him to or not...and he might bring friends...
 
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