Lost season 6 with spoilers beware
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Starkiller0613
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To answer someone's question as to where the name Faraday came from...I believe, unless I'm not remembering correctly, that Charles and eloise arent together in our present and haven't been for quite some time. But in the flashsideways, they are married. So I'm pretty sure Eloise remarried after she gave birth to Daniel, to someone named Faraday in our timeline, but in the flashsideways she didn't, making Daniel's last name Widmore. But Penny's last name being Milton in the flashsideways still seems to be from some affair Charles widmore had in the past...since daniel referred to her as his half sister.
I do remember Eloise telling Charles last season that for the first time she didn't know wha was going to happen. That could be because of Desmonds ability to change the past, but it may not be at all. I started wondering how she knew so much about Desmond in the flash sideways world and I think it's possible that maybe She's like Desmond, or she at least had some way of attaining knowledge of the alternate timeline...perhaps with Daniels journal that was left behind in the past when she shot him.
Another thing I noticed that I forgot to mention is that what Daniel wrote in his flashsideways journal said something about real spacetime and imaginary spacetime. very interesting.
I do remember Eloise telling Charles last season that for the first time she didn't know wha was going to happen. That could be because of Desmonds ability to change the past, but it may not be at all. I started wondering how she knew so much about Desmond in the flash sideways world and I think it's possible that maybe She's like Desmond, or she at least had some way of attaining knowledge of the alternate timeline...perhaps with Daniels journal that was left behind in the past when she shot him.
Another thing I noticed that I forgot to mention is that what Daniel wrote in his flashsideways journal said something about real spacetime and imaginary spacetime. very interesting.
clonesix
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dropshipbob
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When Illiana slammed her water bottle into the bag, I was surprised THAT didn't set off the dynamite, and then not a few seconds later...
Larry Young
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Larry Young
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Those of you checking out my theories and analysis should know the new one's up:
http://www.spectacularry.com/?p=182
I talk a little about Little Matt Damon and why Willy Wonka was an awesome pic for next week's scenes.
http://www.spectacularry.com/?p=182
I talk a little about Little Matt Damon and why Willy Wonka was an awesome pic for next week's scenes.
Jedi2016
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I've gone back and watched some of the earlier episodes, knowing what we know now. I was thinking that when Arzt was handling the dynamite, he shouldn't have told Jack to back away.
In the same way that Richard is good insurance against that kind of stuff, moreso than Jack (Jack is protected by fate, Richard by immortality). I was thinking "Ilana.. you really need to let Richard carry the damn-" *BOOM*... "TOLD YOU SO".
I think Smokey screwed himself.. he just dropped Desmond right on top of one of those electromagnetic pockets. Des is going to do something down there.
And what about Des saying, quite matter-of-factly, "You're John Locke". He didn't sound confused, and it didn't quite seem to be simply ignorance of Locke's death. There's a theory out there that Smokey is Locke, and always has been. Or maybe it was just ignorance, and may Des really does think that's the real Locke. I don't think he's aware of Locke's death, is he?
Larry Young
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I think Locke's shocked reaction when Des said that proves that something's up. I think Des is aware of the endgame and the melding of the two universes.
Although it is pretty compelling to think Locke always has been the Smoke Monster. He certainly explained the "rules" of the game right there in the pilot episode.
Kerr Avon
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Except that Locke got off the island. If he was Smokey, why'd he come back to the island?
Larry Young
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Not our Locke. The essence of Locke. The Locke-Dressed Monster. There's no one-to-one correlation; you've been watching the show.
Jedi2016
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Nah, you got it backwards.. I think the theory is that Locke goes through all of this (and apparently comes back to life.. the theory doesn't address the fact that he's suffering from a slight case of death). Anyway, Locke goes through all of this, gets bitter and angry, and gets thrown way back in time. The "man in black" that was around in the 1800's is just another guise, some random dude that Smocke is impersonating.
Ooooo.. I just realized something... How is it that Smokey knew what Locke's final thoughts were? He can read memories, but Locke died off-Island.. he couldn't have been there. We don't know if he can read the memories of a dead body, but it seems unlikely (unless he's like Miles in that regard, but Miles can only read the dead, not the living). So maybe he's just remembering. Damn.. maybe this theory has some credence after all.
Then again.. I've tried theorizing before about this show, and I've been dead wrong every time. It wouldn't be LOST if it wasn't ten shades of crazy.
The way Desmond was going around in the "alternate" world and visiting everyone reminded me of how Jacob went visiting everyone through their lives.
I have a feeling that Jack isn't going to be Jacob's replacement as much as Desmond might be, who knows, maybe the island was Jacob's alternate world, and now he's free from it, but smokey is still stuck there...
I have a feeling that Jack isn't going to be Jacob's replacement as much as Desmond might be, who knows, maybe the island was Jacob's alternate world, and now he's free from it, but smokey is still stuck there...
OppositeofAngel
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Also going with the theory of Locke not being dead-dead. The original Locke has never came to speak with Hurley- as most other dead Losties have done throughout the series, after they have passed.
oblagon
Sr Member
It's a good assumption that the MIB can read peoples memories after they're dead. He did it with Remy, Ekos brother and with Jacks father.
I don't see how it could make sense that Locke could have been the smoke monster all along. In the first or second episode Locke met the smoke monster and had that stare down; the same person can't be in two places at the same time. After meeting the smoke monster was when Locke explained the "rules" to Walt, perhaps the monster told Locke something.
cboath
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I keep thinking about the S1 episode (i think it's where lock had the stare down with smokie) where the monster grabbed him and was dragging him through the jungle and was about to pull him down a hole and jack (et al) "saved" him. Afterwards he was all upset that they saved him and said it was all right and that he wanted to have gone with the monster. It DEFINITELY seems as if something's there.
Smokie seems to happy to be in locke's body, too. Not sure why though. Then, add to the fact that ilyana said that now that he's in that form, he can't change to anything else (other than smoke apparently). Why? Something IS different with locke. I like the idea that somehow he got tossed back in time and was able to take other forms as 'smokie' and not that he's found his original form, he's stuck with it. It makes 'some' sense.
oblagon
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I thought Locke when being dragged by smoke thought it was ok because he had faith in the island. That from his point of view the island would take care of him, perhaps? Looking back on it now I wonder if that was the MIB trying to kill Locke so as to take his form early on.
Concerning MIB not being able to change again. Isn't this due to Jacob being killed? I thought that once Jacob was murdered the rules locked smokey into that form.
