Logans Run Carousel Mask Replica

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by Vandark, Nov 18, 2005.

  1. Vandark

    Vandark Sr Member

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    Hi there,

    I recently aquired a Logan's Run style Mylec Hockey mask.

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    What i'm wanting to do is to convert it to look just like the mask used in the movie.

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    To begin with, I need to fill in/re-shape some of the existing holes in the mask.

    What i'd like to know, if anybody can help, is:

    1) What would be best used to fill in the holes in the mask?
    2) What would I use to cut/re-shape new holes into the mask?

    Taking into consideration that the mask is made from plastic.

    Although i'm a novice at this sort of thing, i've got good clay sculpting and cardboard modelling skills, so I think I can do a pretty good job on it, I just need a few pointers.

    Thanks for any help.

    Richard
     
  2. imaginager

    imaginager Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Richard,

    Cool project. I love that mask, in a '70s kinda way... :)

    Anyhow, sounds like you want to fill in the holes on your existing mask and then recut them to match the movie prop? This has come up before and IIRC the filming prop was vac-formed and the cape/hood was stitched over the vac'ed plastic.

    Instead of reworking your existing mask, it may be easier to lay some bondo into the back of it and slowly build it up into the eyes and mouth until you can sand the areas you want to reshape smooth. Then use that as a buck and vac directly over it. Then, you can cut your vacu-formed mask anyway you want. And make more, if you cut too much... ;)

    I picked up one of these from an online sporting goods store awhile ago, and coincidentally, just last night at about 2am, decided to hang it over my DSG. I have given some thought to cutting the eyes to better match the film prop, but short of vac-ing my own, that's probably as far as I'd want to take the OEM mask.

    DSG courtesy of Rylo. Thanks, Ry. :D

    Good luck, and post whatever you decide to try...
    Allan



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  3. Rylo

    Rylo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Allan's plan sounds good to me.

    In fact, I was considering something similar but just have no time to even try right now. FYI/ The originals were V-formed and hot cut.

    Cool display, Allan.

    Rylo
     
  4. Apollo

    Apollo Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Love that Display.. :)
     
  5. Vandark

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    so, what i'd probably be best doing, is basically re-fill the entire mask and re=shape it to how it would have looked before the holes were cut.

    Then i'd neet to vac-form it (I have no idea how i'd get this done)

    Then i'd need to re-cut the new holes into the mask.

    I was planning on making more than one anyway, but i've gotta get it perfect first.

    Thanks

    Richard
     
  6. Clutch

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    If you make multiples, count me in.
     
  7. Eyes Only

    Eyes Only Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Fyberdyne Labs offered to help me out vac forming the one I was going to get but due to my time constraints I just made one out of a plain hockey mask.

    Drop him a PM and I'm sure he'll be glad to help you fix it up and vac form it.

    Lowell
     
  8. Vandark

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    What do you think would be best to make.........

    .........an Exact copy of the movie prop, or a more idealised version thats prettier up close?
     
  9. imaginager

    imaginager Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Thanks for the comments, guys. :D It's all about the GUN, though...

    Richard, I'd go for as exact as you can get it. However, I'm not sure where to get that level of exacting information. I've always wondered what's behind the eyes & mouth. Looks like there's a black...er, something, behind the face of the mask. Maybe that's just supposed to be the actor's face painted black, or maybe the prop had some kind of "depth" behind the eyes and mouth. Do you plan to put a hood on it, too?

    Allan
     
  10. Vandark

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    As for getting it exact, i'm trying to get some hole templates made from a screen used mask.

    I think the actors faces were painted black in the movie, but for the sake of a display version, i'd probably put some sort of black fabric behind any holes.

    I'll probably be doing the hood too, I know a couple of people who could do that no problem.

    Your display looks great BTW, the mask just finishes it off.

    Myself, I just collect movie masks and helmets and the Logans Run one is one of the ones i'm missing.

    .......what a great movie.
     
  11. Funky

    Funky Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Which hockey mask IS this?
     
  12. imaginager

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  13. TOKI

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    I this does make it to a "run", I will be most interested in one.

    I would take it fresh off the vac machine uncut, or cut if done well.

    I love Logan's run, even remember when it came out. Saw it in the theatre.

    I have a one off custom Deep Sleep Gun (calcium carbide) that would look great with a carousel mask.

    Let's keep this going.

    Arthur
     
  14. Vandark

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    OK, I started work on the mask last night, I test filled some of the holes and sanded them off this morning and it looks great.

    I think this project will go faster than I expected.

    I could post some progress photos if you like.

    Richard
     
  15. NEKROFANATIC

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    yes please.
     
  16. Rylo

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    Guys...don't turn this to a "I'm in" thread otherwise the mods will move it.

    I'd like to see it stay on the main forum.
     
  17. Vandark

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    i'll probably be ready for the vac-forming in the next couple of days, but I'm from the UK, does anybody know the best way to go about this please?
     
  18. imaginager

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    Richard,

    You're best bet, if you've never done it before, is probably to farm it out. Vacu-forming requires specialized (read, not necessarily expensive) equipment and some learned skills. You may want to place an ad in the JY, or make some inquiries if you're in a hurry.

    Otherwise, you could certainly go about making your own table. There are some sites with info on tables and equipment. It's really not much more than a special table, frame and shop vac. StudioCreations.com has some information. You can also Google and find some interesting information.

    I've read some interesting info at these sites:

    http://www.tk560.com/vactable4.html (not sure if this is an RPF member's site?)
    http://www.studiocreations.com/howto/vacuumtable/index.html (This is.)
     
  19. Vandark

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    Ok, this is the progression so far, not very interesting, I know, but I like doing progression shots of every stage my projects.

    One more lot of sanding and the basic mask is done.

    I've found a few local companies that specialize in Vac-forming, so hopefully I'll have something finished this week.

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  20. Prop Runner

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    I've always wanted to see one of these made accurately. A finished version should also include the hood:

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    - Gabe
     
  21. Clutch

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    Dang, they have some long necks. :)
     
  22. franz bolo

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    Are you going to reshape the eye holes?

    The eye holes give it that innocent zombie look.

    The eyes do something like / \ rather than the common \ /

    FB
     
  23. forttusken

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  24. Vandark

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    The more I work on this mask, the more I realise the extent to which the hockey mask must have been modified. It's completely different.

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    I'm almost there now though, but it's a lot more work than I expected.

    The eyes are the only part i'm leaving in, they can be modified at a later stage.

    Richard
     
  25. TOKI

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    Looks like it's coming along nicely.

    Nice work.

    Arthur
     
  26. Gojira61

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    Wow....an old Bill Blake 23rd Century Emporium catalog...

    Now that really takes me back.

    Jim
     
  27. Apollo

    Apollo Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I wonder if Bill is still in hiding. :lol
     
  28. Fyberdyne Labs

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    As Dark eyes said I would love to help on this. I have a vaccume form table.
    LMK
    Mark
     
  29. Vandark

    Vandark Sr Member

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    That's great, maybe I should take you up on the offer.
     
  30. Reddobie

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    Looks great, keep us informed.
     
  31. Vandark

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    For those who are interested, the Death Mask is coming along very well, but it's been a LOT harder than I ever imagined.

    When I started doing it, I was under the impression it was just a case of filling in the holes that weren't needed and a bit of sanding.

    What has actually happened, is that i've practically re-sculpted the entire mask from the brow down, because the movie mask is just so different from the original goalie mask.

    But it won't be long now, i've got the profile almost identical.

    Richard


     
  32. Prop Runner

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    Thanks for the update. :)

    Looking forward with anticipation to the final product.

    - Gabe
     
  33. micdavis

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    Are you planning to change the shape of the eyes.

    A big part of the look of that mask is the reverse "sad" droop of the eyes.

    Think about it.
     
  34. Vandark

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    I'm changing it to look exactly like the movie mask.
     
  35. Gojira61

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    Hehehehehe....

    One can only wonder.;)

    Jim
     
  36. Rylo

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    I've got a few ideas for a mask, too. Hope to get to mine around the first of the year.

    Post some pics when you get time. :)
     
  37. Prop Runner

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    *BUMP*

    Anything new, guys?
     
  38. Apollo

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    Looks like some Sandmen gotta hold of this Project. :lol
     

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