Lightyear

[teragon]

I believe this film, given how sci-fi it looks, is supposed to be a live action fictional film, like Star Wars in our universe, that Andy saw in cinema. That film then kicked off a toy line, with the toy Buzz we know, and a derivative cartoon as well. Same way Star Wars has toys and multiple cartoons behind it. That’s my take anyway ! Now why would the game we saw in Toy Story 2 feature the toy Buzz and not the real Buzz, that’s going to be hard to explain. Maybe they didn’t have the lives for the likeness of the Buzz “actor” and thus used the toy instead.

 

[dascoyne]

I knew nothing about this before the trailer.

I almost cried it was such a good trailer.

 

[Treadwell]

I really don't care if it canonically ties in with the TS movies. I almost prefer it didn't. It either stands on its own or it doesn't.

 

[joberg]

Maybe, in another Universe all toys are real "people". Their Hell is to be expelled from this Universe and transformed as a toy.

 

[Jaitea]

It’s exactly the same concept as the ‘Woody’s Roundup’ backstory

J

 

[AJTaliesen]

Much ado about nothing. They still used Allen for Buzz in Toy Story 4, long after Allen got on Disney's nerves.

This is not supposed to be about the toy. It's a cash grab Buck Rogers using a name that they own and people recognize.

 

[Halliwax]

I tell ya this looks wicked cool

 

[teragon]

A Pixar movie ? A cash grab ? While they may be reusing owned IP, I have no doubt this will be a success by its own merit frankly. I like some more than others but I have yet to be disappointed.

 

[JLeezy23]

Zurgbots! I have a feeling someone is playing 2 sides of a war and the guy behind Zurg is a mentor to Buzz. The clarification on which world this takes place in, it is indeed the movie Andy watched! I'm guessing the toy Andy received is based on the cartoon and video game version of Buzz, sorta like how we have multiple versions of comicbook characters (live action, comic, cartoon, etc.)

 

[sbaxter]

The canonicity of this movie is of the utmost importance and I will not rest until it’s clear.

I’m standing by that this movie is a movie in-universe that is meant to reboot the Buzz character for a younger audience (i.e Andy’s kids)

That was one of the ideas I was trying to convey earlier, but I'm not sure how clear it was (for all of its verbosity). One reason I lean a bit harder in this direction is the way the whole thing works for us in the real world in essentially the same way it would work for a grown-up Andy and any children he might have. Another reason is just the overall look of what we see in the trailer; if we presume that in Andy's world, this is a live-action film, this looks a lot more like a live-action movie from today than one from ~25 years ago, especially in terms of visual effects and such.

SSB

 

[harrisonp]

Yeah I don’t buy this as being the “original Buzz” in the sense that it was the movie Andy watched as a child and inspired the popularity of the toy.

 

[TJackFx]

Chris Evans is the voice of the real Buzz Lightyear. Tim Allen is the voice the toy makers used to voice the toy based on the real man.

Yes, this.

Lightyear Movie Timeline: How Long Before Toy Story Is It Set?.

Lightyear isn’t about Buzz Lightyear the toy, but about Buzz Lightyear the man, the astronaut who ultimately inspired the Tim Allen-voiced space cadet.

 

[Lightning]

I'm guessing the toy Andy received is based on the cartoon and video game version of Buzz, sorta like how we have multiple versions of comicbook characters (live action, comic, cartoon, etc.)

It's like Ghostbusters, where there were no toys made for the movie. Toys came out 2 years later with the cartoon, so they had the cartoon designs.

 

[CadetTK2386]

Yes, this.

Lightyear Movie Timeline: How Long Before Toy Story Is It Set?.

Lightyear isn’t about Buzz Lightyear the toy, but about Buzz Lightyear the man, the astronaut who ultimately inspired the Tim Allen-voiced space cadet.

I do not agree with ScreenRant's assessment that "Lightyear" is the story of a *Real* Person named Buzz Lightyear in the Toy Story world who eventually had toys and cartoons and video games made up around his exploits. (*Real* as in exists in the same world as Andy, His Mom, Molly, Bonnie, et cetera, and was someone they could meet and interact with directly, not a fictional Character to them.) The technology shown in that Trailer far outpaces anything seen in the Real world of the Toy Story films, which seems rather to just be like our own in terms of technological development. As another member pointed out, Stinky Pete clearly references Sputnik in Toy Story 2.

I think the idea that this is intended to be a piece of media that Andy and his Friends saw either as kids or a new movie about Buzz Lightyear that Andy would go see "now" as an adult makes much more sense than the idea that this is supposed to be the story of Real Astronaut/Explorer. Heck, it could also just be an entirely new reimagination of the Character and his story that is not intended to tie directly back into Toy Story and its narrative world, but rather just be Pixar getting to do a fun riff on one of their ideas and characters.

Either way I really don't think this is supposed to be a "True Story" in the Toy Story universe.

 

[TJackFx]

Believe what you want, but Pixar themselves confirmed this movie is about the “real” buzz who inspired the toy

 

[The Portugeek]

I do not agree with ScreenRant's assessment that "Lightyear" is the story of a *Real* Person named Buzz Lightyear in the Toy Story world who eventually had toys and cartoons and video games made up around his exploits. (*Real* as in exists in the same world as Andy, His Mom, Molly, Bonnie, et cetera, and was someone they could meet and interact with directly, not a fictional Character to them.) The technology shown in that Trailer far outpaces anything seen in the Real world of the Toy Story films, which seems rather to just be like our own in terms of technological development. As another member pointed out, Stinky Pete clearly references Sputnik in Toy Story 2.

I think the idea that this is intended to be a piece of media that Andy and his Friends saw either as kids or a new movie about Buzz Lightyear that Andy would go see "now" as an adult makes much more sense than the idea that this is supposed to be the story of Real Astronaut/Explorer. Heck, it could also just be an entirely new reimagination of the Character and his story that is not intended to tie directly back into Toy Story and its narrative world, but rather just be Pixar getting to do a fun riff on one of their ideas and characters.

Either way I really don't think this is supposed to be a "True Story" in the Toy Story universe.

wait... so Andy, his mom, Buzz etc... they are all in the "real world"? The technology in their "real world" is comparable to our own?
Remember this is a "real world" where toys come to life when no one is looking.

 

[CadetTK2386]

Believe what you want, but Pixar themselves confirmed this movie is about the “real” buzz who inspired the toy

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Those tweets just say "original," not "real." If this is supposed to be the Media Property that inspired the toys, it could still be the "original" Buzz Lightyear fictional character that inspired the Toy without the intent being that Buzz was a Person that Andy could have met, not a character played by an actor. For me, there is just nothing in the rest of mainline Toy Story films or their various spin off specials to indicate the Human characters in Toy Story have achieved Interstellar travel or have that level of technology as presented in the trailer.

wait... so Andy, his mom, Buzz etc... they are all in the "real world"? The technology in their "real world" is comparable to our own?
Remember this is a "real world" where toys come to life when no one is looking.

In terms of the Fictional Universe being presented to us, yes, Andy, his Mom, Molly, Bonnie, are the "Real World." Any successful fictional media property that fosters a suspension of disbelief inherently requires the audience to buy into the idea that the characters being presented are "real" and live in a "real world". A solid grounding allows the creator to then introduce fantastical elements that don't make the user completely lose that suspension of disbelief that makes them emotionally disconnect from the characters and setting.

In Toy Story, the Toys Coming to Life are the fantastical element that sets it apart of our world, while the rest is grounded in a setting similar to our own so that the suspension of dis-belief for children is easy. We see them driving cars, flying in planes, using TVs and Video Game systems, all comparable to the world world we live in. All of that makes it so that kids they can go "It's just like our World, but Toys come to life!" Which is easier for a them to associate with than "It's a world full of amazing technology that dwarfs anything we currently have, including interplanetary travel AND the toys come to life!"

I get that this a way too heavy of analysis for a Pixar film, and I'm not trying to argue with anyone. I'm just working it out in my head both as a logic puzzle and as how I am going to explain it to my nephew, who always looks to me to explain movies to him. It will be a whole lot easier if when the movie comes out if we see Emperor Zurg or any Toys coming to life in the background. That would settle it pretty completely one way or another.

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

The technology shown in that Trailer far outpaces anything seen in the Real world of the Toy Story films, which seems rather to just be like our own in terms of technological development. As another member pointed out, Stinky Pete clearly references Sputnik in Toy Story 2.

Maybe the scene in the trailer when we see Buzz sling-shotting around the sun (à la Stak Trek IV) is Buzz going from his future time back to Andy's time? Maybe the toys/cartoon is because he's a hero, or it's a government cover-up spun as a publicity stunt when a spaceman arrives on earth from the 'future'.

 

[Lightning]

Maybe the scene in the trailer when we see Buzz sling-shotting around the sun (à la Stak Trek IV) is Buzz going from his future time back to Andy's time? Maybe the toys/cartoon is because he's a hero, or it's a government cover-up spun as a publicity stunt when a spaceman arrives on earth from the 'future'.

The whiteboard in the trailer clearly indicates that time will be slower for Buzz on that trip, and thus from his perspective he will be traveling several years into the future.

 

[JLeezy23]

He's the real Buzz just as Robert Englund is the real Freddy, or Peter Weller is the real Robocop. Actors playing as iconic live action characters. Lightyear the movie in the Toy Story universe is just as real as Kill Bill in the Tarantino universe. Its a movie within a movie universe, but it isnt self aware as being as such