Imperial Weapon
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Well yeah I'm just happy he's got more lights on his chest box again.
Kenobi TV series Darth Vader armor and helmet
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robstyle
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In regards to how the armor fits compared to the bulk of the person wearing it, during the EP3 promo work we did the guy wearing the Vader armor, if memory serves was a dentist from Redondo Beach named Tom whome had the height for the part but not the bulk. He is the one in the Orange UK / Cingular adverts. There was a length of cut foam worn under the armor to bulk it out and help it fit securely. If my understanding is correct that foam is absent from the Kenobi series armor. But I may be wrong on that. Tom had said that foam alone changed the way he moved in the suit feeling more secure in movements. Just tossing that out there.
HMSwolfe
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I’m watching ANH (OhTeeDee’s D+ Despecialized), and I kind of wish that Vader in this series had the tabards? robes? whatever they’re called, over the armor rather than under. I love ESB, I think Vader looks the best there, but part of that is his role in the film. It’s 100% his movie. The super clean look, the more exposed shoulder and chest armor, they don’t really work for me here the same way they do in ESB.
It's 100% the fit (maybe the difference in material, too) but I can forgive some of it in that padding out someone to fit inside the suit can only go so far. OT Vader mostly had his pauldrons under the chest armor, too, unless they were worn by the stunt guys (who also needed to be padded up to fill the suit). I think with them sitting flush to this chest armor and how high the arms are on the chair also contributes to how awkward the silhouette looks here, making him incredibly squat and square up top while everything just squishes into himself inside.
This is from a deleted scene in RotJ for an example on how it looks with him sat with a cape.
And, of course, without in ESB. Look at this animal.
His belt hanger is a Master Replicas ANH version complete with only 6 grips instead of 7.
InfinityLord
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Thank you.
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Imperial Weapon
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So would it be a gutted 2007 Master Replicas FX saber? because that one has six grips (correct if I'm wrong but I think its also the same for the black series one) also I was wondering if they used a new clamp or just repainted the Master Replica sidebars black.
DISCLAIMER: This is not my image I have a 2005 MR ESB saber not a 2007 MR ANH one, this is a photo from a current Ebay auction as I could'nt find a better image of the bottom of the hilt.
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The costume looks awesome even with the odd details. My questions are, why is the robe under the armor? Why is the widows peak gone? Why are there lights on the chest box when they weren't in ANH? Why is the cod piece so wrinkled? But over all its very nice. Not sure about the faceplate, it looks to symmetrical. The wonky sculpt of the OG made it more menacing. After lloking at more pics, the face plate is more asymmetrical than I thought. I like it. Though the missing widows peak bothers me.
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Imperial Weapon
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And that is why I like the ROTS in this angle of lighting the eyes are almost featureless yet the teeth show and that to me looks terrifying.
Imperial Weapon
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Maybe they thought cuz the ROTS had lights on the chest box ,no windows peck, no robes over armor, I wouldn't say the mask looked too symetrical, super cleaned up yes but symmetrical no as for the wrinkly cod IDK but I prefer this cod over the RO version.
kalkamel
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Jeez, that throne does not make him look imposing at all. Looks like an adult trying to sit on a kid's chair.
darthvader073
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In in-universe logic this is just a life-support equipment with intimidation purpose in its design. Since it's being used frequently, and mostly in battles and harsh environment, I wouldn't be surprised if it changed on a monthly basis a bit. That's why I don't have a slight problem with his look in either film.
Btw. I have 501st approved ESB Vader which I used for trooping extensively from 2015 to 2020. When I compare it to the first time I wore it, and now, it's very much different (and I hadn't even been in a battle, yet...
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Btw. I have 501st approved ESB Vader which I used for trooping extensively from 2015 to 2020. When I compare it to the first time I wore it, and now, it's very much different (and I hadn't even been in a battle, yet...
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The sequence showing the armor and bionics upgrades is disturbing. The chest box has those 4 inch probes on it. thats looks painful.
Imperial Weapon
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Also add that to the fact its an in-universe antique as well means it'll harder to find the same pieces.In in-universe logic this is just a life-support equipment with intimidation purpose in its design. Since it's being used frequently, and mostly in battles and harsh environment, I wouldn't be surprised if it changed on a monthly basis a bit. That's why I don't have a slight problem with his look in either film.
Btw. I have 501st approved ESB Vader which I used for trooping extensively from 2015 to 2020. When I compare it to the first time I wore it, and now, it's very much different (and I hadn't even been in a battle, yet...
Imperial Weapon
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As I said before its to do with the bunched up cape and the cape being tight round the neck.
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VitalNonsense
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The whole scene looked very strange. Some have their issues with the costume itself but I thought the scene looked like obvious greenscreen work, it's got little to do with the costume as far as I'm concered (but the posing could have been better too, he looks like an adult in a kid's seat with his knees up so high, but I digress). It's a lighting/color thing that makes the whole scene look videogamey. Rogue One depicted these environments much more realistically.
The only visible lighting in the scene are all the windows open to the blaring red sky with a light above the center of the room, and yet the interior is completely cool blue as if the windows don't even exist (except for a couple meager reflections). It doesn't make sense to me as a real environment. Many of the surfaces should be bouncing red but instead they're all strongly blue. And the saturation is just off the charts.
Like let's just ignore Vader for a second and focus on the environment. I think all that red pouring in should probably be knocking back the blue considerably. The top is the environment as released and the bottom is closer to what I would expect to see with that exterior:
This extends to Vader himself, whose shiny black armor shows almost no signs whatsoever of being surrounded by blaring red windows. The window views also don't actually match the Mustafar exterior shot, where the sky featured blues and purples in the clouds. Here's my take again:
However an important question remains: Is realistic actually better? My images are certainly less striking than the originals. It could have been an intentional stylistic choice on their part to forgo nuanced lighting in favor of very bold colors. But in that case, they really should have planned better so that Vader better reflected the lighting environment he was to be in.
One thing is for sure: Compared to Rogue One, things are certainly looking...thrifty. The helmet lowering during suit-up looked like it was literally a 2D asset being animated on a flat plane. The sequence I'd been hoping to see since the tease on Rogue One ended up looking like a flash animation. Shocking to me that they take out all the stops and blow the bank for Mando, but for Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader it's time to save money. I don't get it.
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Imperial Weapon
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I prefer your images because the lighting from the previous ones looked like he was on a star destroyer with a picture of mustafar in the background instead of actually being there.
