Carson Dyle
Sr Member
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.
To my eyes Gabe's design looks so self-consciously fussy and baroque as to be Steampunk.
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You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.
To my eyes Gabe's design looks so self-consciously fussy and baroque as to be Steampunk.
feek61
Sr Member
I personally love the simple elegance of the original: by far my favorite starship. This one is just ugly IMO. I also hate the fact that it's built on earth and not in orbit (which I believe is part of GR's original concept, why change that? It's so stupid). What's that about? I'm sure that anything I say has been already echoed in this ever increasing massive thread. Anyway, I am looking forward to the movie and I hope it's good but screwing with the Enterprise and making it so ugly is disturbing.
Will
Will
Rogue Studios
Well-Known Member
The other area of concern is it's in the 23rd centruy and it's being welded together by hand and not computers/robots.
SonofJorEl
Well-Known Member
Agreed--but Gabe did get the basic proportions correct.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.
To my eyes Gabe's design looks so self-consciously fussy and baroque as to be Steampunk.
robn1
Master Member
I'm sorry, but Gabe's ship looks like it was assimilated by the Borg :lol
The new ship is different, but equally ugly. I fully expected the ship
to be rethought for this movie, and I was open to it. But it's just awful,
a mishmash of parts that don't go together.
Rob
SonofJorEl
Well-Known Member
Good point Ramiel--this is Pike's ship after all. It should look different by the time Kirk is Captain. Y'know--they've got to lose all those cheesy gooseneck viewers!!
What if, at the end of the movie, they will show us THE Enterprise we know, while this is the Enterprise of the rest of the movie... Would you like that?
(A sort of refit-before-the-refit...)
Yes. That would be fine. Only if there is some explanation as to why it looks post TMP when it should be Cage era.
nwjedidave
Sr Member
What if, at the end of the movie, they will show us THE Enterprise we know, while this is the Enterprise of the rest of the movie... Would you like that?
(A sort of refit-before-the-refit...)
maybe they will follow Trek lore and we'll see the captain (Pike) sacrifice his ship to save mankind/earth, and we'll get a bit more background on where Kirk gets his ideas from ?
Ramiel
Sr Member
Right... Well, if it ends with a ship too damaged to "simple repairs", and they simply, after the "refit", show us the old big E (refubished "cinema-style":cool), I think we won't need an explanation I suppose...
But I'm just speculating to the nth degree here!:lol
Carson Dyle
Sr Member
What it’s about is the filmmakers taking a bit of artistic license canon-wise so as to create one of those stirring hero-comes-face-to-face-with-his-destiny moments movies about Leaving Home are so fond of.
In this case, it’s an homage to The Right Stuff.
Remember the beat in which Yeager rides out of the desert on horseback and suddenly comes face-to-face with a flame-belching X-1? Same basic concept in XI, with Kirk discovering the under-construction Enterprise while riding through an epic expanse of golden cornfields.
Now, I fully understand why fans might gag at the idea of their beloved starship having been built in a ****ing Iowa cornfield, but taken in context, and on its own merits, it’s actually a nice bit o’ foreshadowing; Trek XI’s version of Luke gazing out at the twin suns (there’s A LOT of Luke in Kirk’s farm boy backstory).
CTF
Sr Member
Face the facts: '70s Galactica is only good if you have nostalgic feelings for it... or if you like campy crap. But this is 'bout Trek.
Living in the past? Indeed.
But saying that... you defend the PT, huh?Are you referring to Indy or The Godfather franchise here...?
In regards to the new Enterprise, I always thought that the Enterprise was a lame design. Yeah, I said it. :rolleyes
I like TOS -- is that what you kids call it? -- but I can't sit through anything else that has the Trek name attached. Besides Wrath of Khan, that is. I liked that a lot. But I don't watch TOS or Khan 'cos I want to look at the Enterprise... I watch it for the great characters and story (definitely not the hammy Shatner, as cool as he was in TOS :lol). And who knows, this new show might be give us that. The other flicks certainly haven't. People always say to me, "What if they, like, remade JAWS?" :unsure Really, three ****ty sequels is no different than a remake. (And frankly, I think it would be totally cool to see a mini-series that is faithful to the book.) And I know I wouldn't ***** about a new ORCA (face it, the ORCA is cooler than the Enterprise :cool). Now, what if they remade STAR WARS? Meh, no biggie. I can still watch Mark Hamill and company in the original†. And I'd still give the new stuff a chance to entertain me.
What does this have to do with this thread? Let it go... at least watch it before you make a decision.
†Let's leave it at that, huh?
I like cupcakes.
Mechinyun
Sr Member
Better than nothing at this point.. The trailer...missing a bit at the end it seems
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sfstreetlight/3030211291/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sfstreetlight/3030211291/
I like cupcakes.
I'm sticking with broccoli.
