James Norrington/Davy Jones sword.

JunkSabers1138

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I have loved this thing ever since the first POTC movie came out, but I dont know where to get one or something similar. Could anyone post pics or info about this prop and other similar swords?

Also, any info on that rather odd shapped sword on Jones's belt in DMC would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Seth
 
Thanks guys, I knew it was a smallsword, just haven't seen one that looks like the POTC sword. That real bladed sword looks like its for a left handed person with the blade ridge on that side. Although, it could be a rare sword with a ridge on both sides, but im not sure. Some of those with the epee blades had REALLY bad lookin hilts, all crudely welded and all.
 
Yay swords! My favorite. :D

Being a theatrical fighter, I'm kind of a sword snob, so I only know about weapons are that built for actual fighting. I can't help you with wall hangers.

Nothing here that will serve as a replica "off-the-rack", so to speak, but Rogue Steel offers surpassingly high quality smallswords, and the maker does amazing custom work. Speaking as a theatrical fighter who's shopped around quite a bit, Rogue Steel offers the very best appearance and quality that you'll find in that price range.

Alchem Inc. is also offers some smallswords, but I don't have any experience with them, so I can't speak to their quality - I'm seriously considering taking a chance with them, though. Zen Warrior Armory is sort of the bargain basement for reasonably well-made weapons - look under "SCA Weapons". I have an R2 and and R5 rapier on order (who ever heard of a sword shop being out of blades!?) - it's kind of a stretch for them to call everything on that page a rapier, but I guess it works for them, so whatever.

Cold Steel offers a smallsword as well, and I've heard good things about their work (never used anything they've made though). They tend more toward aesthetics than the rugged functionality of Zen or Alchem, so it might be more like what you're looking for.

If money is no object and you're looking for something that's attractive and durable, then I would recommend contacting Rogue Steel about making something custom. You're not likely to regret it. :)
 
Well, I emailed the Sword and Stone guy a few weeks back and I still have no response. Anyway, I did go to that Zen site from a recomendation from a guy who helps teach the fencing class I go there since a few of the folks at my club like to have one customized theatrical-like weapon along with their practice weapons. Some of the singular parts would look quite good when assembled together on a very smallsword-ish epee blade. Im hoping to buy these parts soon to make a sword as close to the POTC sword in question as I can. I'll list the parts here soon to see if those who have bought at least a few of the said parts will tell me if thats what I need to make as close enough of a sword I can.
 
Here's an NCO sword that is somewhat similar to Norrington's...

http://www.aurorahistoryboutique.com/R000022.htm

Not sure what Davey Jones' sword looks like. Can you post a picture of it?

Thanks for the pic, but it's not as close as some of the others posted here. As for Jones's original sword, I dont have a pic, but if you watch DMC it appears on his belt after the kraken destroys the ship with Will on it. A similar sword in terms of shape but WAY to fancy to belong to Davy is in the book Swords and Hilt Weapons.
 
The high end stuff always seems to put people off at times so I try and find the cheap stuff first but I must say, the Cold Steel Small Sword looks the best to me. :thumbsup Phayze found a good one there.

On another note, I noticed the Aurora History site has a $99 version of the Barbossa sword...
 
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The high end stuff always seems to put people off at times so I try and find the cheap stuff first but I must say, the Cold Steel Small Sword looks the best to me. :thumbsup Phayze found a good one there.

On another note, I noticed the Aurora History site has a $99 version of the Barbossa sword...

Agreed... Cold Steel's is the closest out there, but it's still different such as the grip is like entirely gold wire and the hilt is too decorated as opposed to black leather (?) with a little gold wire and a totally undecorated hilt except for that tassle hanging from the knuckle guard. The blade looks a tad bit different as well, but its the hilt im mainly concerned about..... maybe if one supplied a good looking blade they could get a helt made for a lot less than paying for a whole sword.... oh what am I saying, this sword can only be done either if MR decides to make it (oh God I hope they do) or a totally custom job. I wonder if a scabbard is doable also?
 
I just found THIS . A nice sword I must say, looks a lot like the Cold Steel one, and it can be bought for about 25% less than most good ones I have seen. Myarmoury.com also has some good smallsword pics in their reviews of major sword manufacturers, and I found one REALLY close to the POTC sword HERE . The only differences are much wider blade (I know it has a name, but I forget it at the moment), and the decorations to the shell and knuckle guards, as well as the shape of the knuckle guard. But I must say, I really thought this one was it before I noticed the differences; the handgrip itself looks PERFECT! I'm currently trying to find any pics I can of the Norrington smallsword... I do know they had a full length shot of it in the ultimate visual guide. Could someone post a scan? Thanks.
 
Glad I could be of some help. :) Personally, I like the Zen stuff pretty well, but my wife hates them. She learned to fight with Rogue Steel weapons and got pretty spoiled because of it. Our Zen smallswords came in last weekend and I'm really happy with my R5 (which I got with a T90 epee blade, making it a very light and agile little weapon), but we're sending her R2 back because she didn't like the balance or the look (it had a T90 also).

I'm thinking of getting a curved schlager blade from Alchem Inc. for the R5 so that it can pull double-duty as a naval cutlass/saber. It's stylish and versatile! :D

I know that Rogue Steel will include a custom fit leather-covered lexan scabbard for about $100 with their weapons, and there are numerous leathershops online that can do custom leather sheaths. If you're into DIY (and who isn't on this forum?) I understand that you could make one out of fiberglass relatively easily, just wrap the blade in aluminum foil/plastic wrap then wrap that in fiberglass cloth, fill, sand paint and decorate (please note that I've never done this before, so it's probably more difficult than it sounds). I have a pair of wooden scabbards that I had made by friend of a friend who's into woodworking (Don't look for these online - they usually start around $300, if you can even find a place to do it). You might also try just using PVC pipe, painted and decorated. The half-round profile on an epee blade might make for a decent fit if you experiment a bit.

You might also find some interesting information at the SFI projects forum. Come to think of it, you'll probably find some interesting stuff all over SFI, so if you aren't familiar with them I'd highly recommend poking around when you get a chance. It's a very well-informed community.
 
Glad I could be of some help. :) Personally, I like the Zen stuff pretty well, but my wife hates them. She learned to fight with Rogue Steel weapons and got pretty spoiled because of it. Our Zen smallswords came in last weekend and I'm really happy with my R5 (which I got with a T90 epee blade, making it a very light and agile little weapon), but we're sending her R2 back because she didn't like the balance or the look (it had a T90 also).

I'm thinking of getting a curved schlager blade from Alchem Inc. for the R5 so that it can pull double-duty as a naval cutlass/saber. It's stylish and versatile! :D

I know that Rogue Steel will include a custom fit leather-covered lexan scabbard for about $100 with their weapons, and there are numerous leathershops online that can do custom leather sheaths. If you're into DIY (and who isn't on this forum?) I understand that you could make one out of fiberglass relatively easily, just wrap the blade in aluminum foil/plastic wrap then wrap that in fiberglass cloth, fill, sand paint and decorate (please note that I've never done this before, so it's probably more difficult than it sounds). I have a pair of wooden scabbards that I had made by friend of a friend who's into woodworking (Don't look for these online - they usually start around $300, if you can even find a place to do it). You might also try just using PVC pipe, painted and decorated. The half-round profile on an epee blade might make for a decent fit if you experiment a bit.

You might also find some interesting information at the SFI projects forum. Come to think of it, you'll probably find some interesting stuff all over SFI, so if you aren't familiar with them I'd highly recommend poking around when you get a chance. It's a very well-informed community.

Cool suggestions for DIY stuff :) . I like the Zen stuff look too, but their complete smallswords don't turn me on as much as a totally custom hilt using their parts. Could you send me pictures of their available blades? I'd like to see how they compare to practice epee blades since I'm thinking about buying a practice epee for my fencing class and exchanging the hilt with the custom zen hilt parts on there every now and then. If the Zen blades look better (as in more historically accurate), I might think about buying one. How do they compare in performance to practice blades and are they safe to fight with? Thank you! I also am a member on SFI (I'm Seth Borland, btw) and its on my top 5 favorite websites list :D ! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT!

Anyway, getting back on topic to the Norrington sword, I looked at the POTC visual guide and I'm convinced several hero swords may have been made. My evidence is that in some shots throughout the films, the clamshell guard has this "rim" around the edges and in some others (maybe most) its a plain guard. The tassle is also different in both pictures featured in the visual guide with its wrapping pattern at the tip having two different patterns. The finger guards also look unique to this sword; having a THICK hollow-ground and drilled look.
 
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Also, If I may ask... is there any way we could get the Norrington sword-related posts from the Hector Barbossa's Sword Arrives thread and merge them into this one? Thank you!
 
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After reviewing the smallsword scenes in At World's End and comparing them with scenes in the other two movies, I'm convinced several swords were made between AWE and the other movies, and there are several several notible differences with each. I'll post them later, but those who look can tell for themselves.

Also, could we integrate the smallsword posts from the hector barbossa sword thread and put them in this one? Thank you
 
Well it's a late addition, but the only one I have to give now. The maker of this hero sword died, taking the bulk of his knowledge of the sword with him. While the antique original was furnished like a small sword, there was nothing about its size or blade design that matched it. More than likely, a strange commission that cost a fortune made anew in the POTC films.
One (1) replica blade was made by Mischka before passing, and I'll share some info I glean from it; don't bother asking sword and stone, he doesn't know anything.
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From the tip of the blade to the greatest width is 29.5 inches. The width at the hilt is 1 3/8" across. It ain't small, and tapers dramatically. The blade is also thick, 1/4" at the base. This steel blade is also pretty heavy. The original blade, however, was aluminum polished like a mirror. The fuller is almond-shaped on each end, 1/4" wide, running the length of the sharpened edge.
Now here is where things get even more unusual; the flip side of the blade isn't flat, nor faceted. It's concave.
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It's a smooth depression that runs the length of the blade. Probably makes sharpening easier, but must have been a (&^%(* to do without power tools.
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Also kind of hard to photo properly.
Anyway, this is the only replica of the Norrington blade out there made to the original specs. It was initially made to participate in the discussions here on the subject, but became a gift for a friend that was to be completed. That didn't happen, so it was stored away after his death, and now is going to the person slated for it. I figured I'd pass on some info on it, as frankly I'm one of the only people that has any; possibly the only one.
 
Wow. Thank you very much for posting these pics and specs regarding this blade. Good to know the length and width. Like you, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who did, I also noticed the concave underside while watching the film. I must say that was one of many many features that made this sword so interesting to me. The hilt, while a pity a replica wasnt made for this blade, was also unique and interesting, simply because I've never seen anything like it before; simple, yet more beautiful than any other hilt I've seen. I would like to see more pictures of the actual prop sword, and even pictures of the antique sword this was based on if that is ever possible.

I am very sorry to hear that your friend and master passed away :( I'm sure thats an almost unbearable loss to you. May he rest in piece.
 
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