Iron Man Mark III (Dark Asylum)
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MisriahArmory
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
That's awesome. Any WIP shots of your molds (bucks)? (Sorry if it was asked before)
That's awesome. Any WIP shots of your molds (bucks)? (Sorry if it was asked before)
Dark asylum
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
Ok, the shoe molds are finally done, by far the hardest parts to form, I lost a few good sheets of plastic trying to get these things to form, but finally got it done. and here's the shells, note there still a little more putty work add the inner soles but still looks pretty good so far.
They can be fit with a 2-3 inch left, and will be fit with a comfortable easy velcrow inner shoe, and also can be fit with bottom lights as seen in the car crunching scene with the mark 2 test flight.
and a quick recap on the other parts primered.
All the shell molds are finally done, and I am working hard on the latex parts, stomache and joints, but I'm finally ready to start forming suits but they will not be in stock, only built to custom specs and measurements perfect for personal use, and there will be 2 versions of the suit Standard Mark 2-3 or a fully animatronic version of the Mark 2-3, this is only the tip of the iceberg, other prototypes can be made as well, few people have asked about a war machine, and yes it can be done, may take a few weeks to create some new molds for a custom or new suit but it's very possible, and even the Mark 4 and 5 for Iron Man 2.
So any questions or concerns, you can PM me here, thanks for all the feedback and interest and I hope you all can benifit from my work and the process of it, thanks again and take care.
Note: The colors I use are a combo of Red wine base and 2 coats of a lexan based Flaskon candy apple, and then acrylic satin finish, anf the gold is metal croned gold with a satin finish. (showen in the finished helmet shots)
Ok, the shoe molds are finally done, by far the hardest parts to form, I lost a few good sheets of plastic trying to get these things to form, but finally got it done. and here's the shells, note there still a little more putty work add the inner soles but still looks pretty good so far.
They can be fit with a 2-3 inch left, and will be fit with a comfortable easy velcrow inner shoe, and also can be fit with bottom lights as seen in the car crunching scene with the mark 2 test flight.
and a quick recap on the other parts primered.
All the shell molds are finally done, and I am working hard on the latex parts, stomache and joints, but I'm finally ready to start forming suits but they will not be in stock, only built to custom specs and measurements perfect for personal use, and there will be 2 versions of the suit Standard Mark 2-3 or a fully animatronic version of the Mark 2-3, this is only the tip of the iceberg, other prototypes can be made as well, few people have asked about a war machine, and yes it can be done, may take a few weeks to create some new molds for a custom or new suit but it's very possible, and even the Mark 4 and 5 for Iron Man 2.
So any questions or concerns, you can PM me here, thanks for all the feedback and interest and I hope you all can benifit from my work and the process of it, thanks again and take care.
Note: The colors I use are a combo of Red wine base and 2 coats of a lexan based Flaskon candy apple, and then acrylic satin finish, anf the gold is metal croned gold with a satin finish. (showen in the finished helmet shots)
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Dark asylum
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
Hoping very soon, I've been testing the parts to insure all the parts ill be 1 to 1 scale, painting will be a little bit til I can get the paint needed and will be a few ore days to get the latex parts done, but soon enough I hope.
Hoping very soon, I've been testing the parts to insure all the parts ill be 1 to 1 scale, painting will be a little bit til I can get the paint needed and will be a few ore days to get the latex parts done, but soon enough I hope.
Dark asylum
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
This is only the prototype, noted any small errors will be worked out of the next runs so they can only get better at this point.
This is only the prototype, noted any small errors will be worked out of the next runs so they can only get better at this point.
Barking Dragon
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
******** this is one Amazing suit dude, I can't wait to see it painted up. I'm really starting to like all the Iron Man suits I see on this Forum
******** this is one Amazing suit dude, I can't wait to see it painted up. I'm really starting to like all the Iron Man suits I see on this Forum
Dark asylum
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
Thanks, not a huge fan of fiberglass suits though, not sure why any one does armor or costumes that way but to each to there own I just want to cut out the cons and keep everything pros with this material, try to build things in the best way possible and considering the feed back I'll be pressed even harder to get this suit done right.
******** this is one Amazing suit dude, I can't wait to see it painted up. I'm really starting to like all the Iron Man suits I see on this Forum
Thanks, not a huge fan of fiberglass suits though, not sure why any one does armor or costumes that way but to each to there own I just want to cut out the cons and keep everything pros with this material, try to build things in the best way possible and considering the feed back I'll be pressed even harder to get this suit done right.
JohnConstantine
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Still looking very nice. Will there be any issues walking on the vacuum formed soles? They wont crack or break?
Still looking very nice. Will there be any issues walking on the vacuum formed soles? They wont crack or break?
TMP
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
I want to point out I disagree in the way this is said.
However i have revised my previouse reply on my own initiative, in honor of keeping this tread as clean as possible in honor of the armor and work shared in this tread.
I want to point out I disagree in the way this is said.
However i have revised my previouse reply on my own initiative, in honor of keeping this tread as clean as possible in honor of the armor and work shared in this tread.
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Fetts.Sobriquet
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
Not counting the 501st (or other stormtrooper rigs), fiberglass seems to be used in the more high end / detailed work while vac forming has always been a mass production type of thing. Vac forming is a get it out and sell it look and durability and fiberglass will last forever and the details are very crisp. I don't think any one is better than the other. It's just depends on what you're going for. When I see vacuformed stuff I tend to think of a mid range piece. When i see the same piece done using a less mass production style method, I tend to think that piece will be a cut above the others and more collectible or of a higher grade.
But that's just me. I think BOTH suits look great and I love seeing different techniques applied to tackle similar projects. You both are great artists.
Not counting the 501st (or other stormtrooper rigs), fiberglass seems to be used in the more high end / detailed work while vac forming has always been a mass production type of thing. Vac forming is a get it out and sell it look and durability and fiberglass will last forever and the details are very crisp. I don't think any one is better than the other. It's just depends on what you're going for. When I see vacuformed stuff I tend to think of a mid range piece. When i see the same piece done using a less mass production style method, I tend to think that piece will be a cut above the others and more collectible or of a higher grade.
But that's just me. I think BOTH suits look great and I love seeing different techniques applied to tackle similar projects. You both are great artists.
JohnConstantine
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
Hmm, I think this is a weird argument to be having for really no reason.
TMP, I don't think his comment was an attack on you or anyone else as you seem to have taken it. I think he was just saying that he prefers vacuum form over fiberglass.
Maybe at one point he worked with fiberglass as many of us in this hobby has and simply found a better method for him.
I have been following this thread and the detail on this armor astounds me. I did not think it was possible with vacuum form either as I have only ever seen storm trooper armor and things like that vacuum formed. Is it possible that maybe there is more to vacuum forming than previously thought? Maybe so, maybe not, I don't know as I have never done it, but either way I think the detail on this suit is easily comparable to the TMP suit. Not saying better, not saying worse, but there is a definite level of talent to both which surpasses many others.
Even with vacuum form you still have to sculpt the suit out and that takes talent as well so to say that vacuum forming is simple is really undermining those who do it. The sculpting process I imagine takes just as long, if not longer cause you have to chop the pieces up.
I don't think this is really worth arguing about or taking offense to. It is definitely cool
to see two very different armors with two very different methods and I think that these are the two best representations of the movie armor out there.
Lets just play nice.
Hmm, I think this is a weird argument to be having for really no reason.
TMP, I don't think his comment was an attack on you or anyone else as you seem to have taken it. I think he was just saying that he prefers vacuum form over fiberglass.
Maybe at one point he worked with fiberglass as many of us in this hobby has and simply found a better method for him.
I have been following this thread and the detail on this armor astounds me. I did not think it was possible with vacuum form either as I have only ever seen storm trooper armor and things like that vacuum formed. Is it possible that maybe there is more to vacuum forming than previously thought? Maybe so, maybe not, I don't know as I have never done it, but either way I think the detail on this suit is easily comparable to the TMP suit. Not saying better, not saying worse, but there is a definite level of talent to both which surpasses many others.
Even with vacuum form you still have to sculpt the suit out and that takes talent as well so to say that vacuum forming is simple is really undermining those who do it. The sculpting process I imagine takes just as long, if not longer cause you have to chop the pieces up.
I don't think this is really worth arguing about or taking offense to. It is definitely cool
to see two very different armors with two very different methods and I think that these are the two best representations of the movie armor out there.
Lets just play nice.
Fetts.Sobriquet
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
I can see where that would rub some people the wrong way. A LOT of people prefer fiberglass parts over vac forming so saying that you don't know why anyone would do a fiberglass costume is a bit of a call out to a ton of folks. Fett builders, Halo, Vader, almost everyone except storm troopers use resin reinforced fiberglass. When I read that I was rubbed the wrong way, so i can see where it would strike a nerve. Vac parts have a much smoothed out / shallower details than cast parts. That's the nature of vac forming. It just depends on your preferred level of acceptable detail or detail loss as to what method works better for any one person.
That said, this isn't a who makes the best IM suit thread. It's to showcase Dark asylum's armor, which is awesome. Not up my personal favorite medium, but awesome to say the least.
I can see where that would rub some people the wrong way. A LOT of people prefer fiberglass parts over vac forming so saying that you don't know why anyone would do a fiberglass costume is a bit of a call out to a ton of folks. Fett builders, Halo, Vader, almost everyone except storm troopers use resin reinforced fiberglass. When I read that I was rubbed the wrong way, so i can see where it would strike a nerve. Vac parts have a much smoothed out / shallower details than cast parts. That's the nature of vac forming. It just depends on your preferred level of acceptable detail or detail loss as to what method works better for any one person.
That said, this isn't a who makes the best IM suit thread. It's to showcase Dark asylum's armor, which is awesome. Not up my personal favorite medium, but awesome to say the least.
JohnConstantine
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
In my opinion his armor is comparable to yours. You can not deny that the detail on it is great. I know everyone has personal pride in their work and rightfully so, but there is a certain level to pride before it crosses into cocky.
In my opinion his armor is comparable to yours. You can not deny that the detail on it is great. I know everyone has personal pride in their work and rightfully so, but there is a certain level to pride before it crosses into cocky.
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Dark asylum
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
OK, let me just say it was not a attack on anyone just offering something new and a much different approach to costume work. But you must be insecure if you feel threatend by my work and you must know nothing about high impact plastics or the art of vacuum form given your lack of information.
you have no clue how this process works nor have any clue about the materials.
So I'll enlighten you and others on just how wrong you really are, and nice statue by the way lets see it as a costume be for you talk about any benitfits and compare it to a actual costume.
First let me just let you know I'm new to the RPF but I've worked on and created 100s of things in the last 15 years working on costumes, animatronics, stage replicas, special effects, and movie props/makeup so don't for 1 second think I don't know what I'm talking about, I've build life size animatronic dinosaurs, built borg suits and props for the Star Trek experiance (Vegas and Germany) and props for Multiple Planet Hollywoods around the globe to only name a few.
So, I'm not just some guy that worked out of a basement, and I'm not knocking any one that does but just insuring you I know much more stuff in this field of work then most people could even fathom, plus I do all my own work, designs, and sculpting and molding, I don't have a shop of 25 people or other labor force.
Now you have my resume and I can now break down materials for you, vacuum forming gets great detail if you know what you are doing or how to build the molds right and things still require plenty of work welding parts putty sanding, trust me there's enough labor invovled. And yes it is faster then fiber glass and high impact plastics are much stronger materials and parts can be reinforced aswell and far much less weight better symmetry and a much more of a even shell and weather resistant parts, and that statement about cracking shows ignorance about the material cause it doesn't crack like fiberglass does and heating a cooling doesn't hurt it like fiberglass with cracking and chipping as plastics are more flexible and take the stress far more better, and worse your comments about ABS, they build weather resistant pipes out of it because it can with stand a amazing amount of stress and weather conditions, so read up on the material before you make a statement about any of this.
And don't claim this isn't a competition when you act like your way of doing things is threatend by another way, if some one perfers fiberglass that's there option, I don't and I have worked with it plenty to know it's not the best option. So please stop trolling when you can't win this debate with a lack of facts.
In the end my goal is to create the best and highest quality possible and if you don't like it so be it, do what you think is best and I'll do what I think is best and be professional about it.
OK, let me just say it was not a attack on anyone just offering something new and a much different approach to costume work. But you must be insecure if you feel threatend by my work and you must know nothing about high impact plastics or the art of vacuum form given your lack of information.
you have no clue how this process works nor have any clue about the materials.
So I'll enlighten you and others on just how wrong you really are, and nice statue by the way lets see it as a costume be for you talk about any benitfits and compare it to a actual costume.
First let me just let you know I'm new to the RPF but I've worked on and created 100s of things in the last 15 years working on costumes, animatronics, stage replicas, special effects, and movie props/makeup so don't for 1 second think I don't know what I'm talking about, I've build life size animatronic dinosaurs, built borg suits and props for the Star Trek experiance (Vegas and Germany) and props for Multiple Planet Hollywoods around the globe to only name a few.
So, I'm not just some guy that worked out of a basement, and I'm not knocking any one that does but just insuring you I know much more stuff in this field of work then most people could even fathom, plus I do all my own work, designs, and sculpting and molding, I don't have a shop of 25 people or other labor force.
Now you have my resume and I can now break down materials for you, vacuum forming gets great detail if you know what you are doing or how to build the molds right and things still require plenty of work welding parts putty sanding, trust me there's enough labor invovled. And yes it is faster then fiber glass and high impact plastics are much stronger materials and parts can be reinforced aswell and far much less weight better symmetry and a much more of a even shell and weather resistant parts, and that statement about cracking shows ignorance about the material cause it doesn't crack like fiberglass does and heating a cooling doesn't hurt it like fiberglass with cracking and chipping as plastics are more flexible and take the stress far more better, and worse your comments about ABS, they build weather resistant pipes out of it because it can with stand a amazing amount of stress and weather conditions, so read up on the material before you make a statement about any of this.
And don't claim this isn't a competition when you act like your way of doing things is threatend by another way, if some one perfers fiberglass that's there option, I don't and I have worked with it plenty to know it's not the best option. So please stop trolling when you can't win this debate with a lack of facts.
In the end my goal is to create the best and highest quality possible and if you don't like it so be it, do what you think is best and I'll do what I think is best and be professional about it.
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Dark asylum
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Re: New iron man suit in the the works
Sir be a professional and keep to your own form stop trying to push your armor on my form, and if you keep trolling I'm just going to report you for harassing new members, cause your statements make no sense other then trying to start a form war so go promote your stuff on your form and stop trolling.
Sir be a professional and keep to your own form stop trying to push your armor on my form, and if you keep trolling I'm just going to report you for harassing new members, cause your statements make no sense other then trying to start a form war so go promote your stuff on your form and stop trolling.
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