hellboy Samaritan build

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i felt inspired to make a hellboy prop because i loved the movie and i enjoy reading the comics. i thought what better way than to make the beast of all guns... so i had a look around and found this site where someone has made a strong papercraft one.


i liked the idea. then i remembered our school has a sand cast and furnace. so i thought i would do one better and cast it out of aluminum. i opened this thread for anyone to offer ideas or help how to do things. this will be my first major prop build and i'm likely to miss details. so if you know an easier/better way of doing something, or have noticed i have missed a feature point it out and i will be very grateful.
i plan to upload photos with progress every few days
 
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this is just a quick photo i took, i will have a more detailed step by step thing going for the other side
 
ok here are some more updates. basicly right now its just sticking the printed images to 1mm card and cutting and repeating. since i am going to be casting this i need everything to be in two halfs so i have been trying to work around that so i loose as little detail as posible, as a result i will be needing to cast it in many seprate peices then join it all at the end for a final peice.

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since i will be sand casting it i will need everything to be able to take lots of force so i have reinforced it and will pour some plaster-of-paris to harden it finally

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here is the one side i have started on nearly fully finished

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and here is the other half that i will be covering more closely. so all i have done so far is printed glued and in the prosess of cutting. for the main body i am using double thickness but normaly only 1mm thick is enough.

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and please rember not to cut most of what i am cutting because mine is going to be cast

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I have just gotten back from my trip to New Zealand so I might be a bit late updating but I will try to get something out within the next week
 
ok more photos now of me making the second half.


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i just have a little more work to do then i have to start doing the hard work of trying to make everything fit together properly
 
I use to sand cast by just packing the sand around a piece of high density poly and then pouring the metal in. The heat from the molten metal melts the poly instantly. It use to work quite well


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Oh sweet I will try that if this doesn't work then, I was thinking about trying with wax but the poly should be Easyer to work with. Can you use glue when dealing with that or does it just clog up the mold?
 
sorry for no recent updates. i have been prepareing for the finals at school. i wont be uploading most of this month, but after that i will have the summer break and im going to make some huge progress.
since i am leaving school in a few weeks for good, sand casting is become a less possible answer, although there are ways i could still do this its not going to be as convenient, so instead i have stuck the two halfs together and will do a resin and silicone cast. if anyone has any experance with this i would much apresheate their help as this would be my first attempt at it. i am also going to get a proper job soon so i can afford more prop making equipment such as barrels of resin. right now my lack of cash has been limiting my creativeness. major updates will come some time around june
 
couple of points worth noting that are wrong or missing (the silver screw on the hinge should be both sides)

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ok people i have more pictures to upload of my progress
im hopeing to get it all finished these holidays but im starting to think i wont

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i have not forgotten about this thread, i just misplaced my camera with all my photos on, and so i cant take any more either right now. but i have started on the other main lower handle part thing, and i have started the rotate thing that holds the bullets in (sorry for my lack of knowledge in gun parts)
i have used some fiber glass resin on the main barrel part, and i've started sanding it. its starting to finally look like a gun, but i still have so much work still to do
 
Wow, I joined this site on the recommendation of Adam Savage via Youtube because i thought i might find some good ideas on the HB RHoD, and stumbled on this thread, I am doing the EXACT same thing!!! I picked up UHU02's plans for the papercraft, but i'm using the pieces to do a solid wood piece for my sand mold... take two pieces of wood, glue them together with a piece of paper between the layers for each piece, when you are done cutting them out, you can take a knife and separate the two halves for use with the sand casting flask. The papercraft version does need a little work to get more accurate, but still...

For the bullets i ordered a box of all brass shotgun shell hulls, cut them to length, place in the acrylic or aluminum bullet and crimp with pliers...

I'm not all that far along with my project either, but man, it's awesome to see someone like minded as myself!!!
 
Wow, I joined this site on the recommendation of Adam Savage via Youtube because i thought i might find some good ideas on the HB RHoD, and stumbled on this thread, I am doing the EXACT same thing!!! I picked up UHU02's plans for the papercraft, but i'm using the pieces to do a solid wood piece for my sand mold... take two pieces of wood, glue them together with a piece of paper between the layers for each piece, when you are done cutting them out, you can take a knife and separate the two halves for use with the sand casting flask. The papercraft version does need a little work to get more accurate, but still...

For the bullets i ordered a box of all brass shotgun shell hulls, cut them to length, place in the acrylic or aluminum bullet and crimp with pliers...

I'm not all that far along with my project either, but man, it's awesome to see someone like minded as myself!!!

Oh I also had the same idea for the bullets, I fitted the cylinder to take shotgun rounds because I read they where the same size. Would you be able to send me the link for where you ordered them?

That sounds like an awesome idea for making it, I have moved on from sand casting because I no longer have access to it. Have you started your own thread on here? I will check it out, hopefully we can offer some help to each other for making it better. I so far have noticed the pivot bolt is diffrent, there is a strip along the side which isn't there on the paper model, a few of the screws along the side are diffrent and I think the sights are slightly different. Have you noticed anything else?

I'm planning on doing some tracing rounds with LEDs, the holy water ones by casting the tips with clear resin, and also some normal ones machined on my lathe. the imprinting on the back of it might end up a bit hard unless I can find access to some letter punches.

Best of luck with it.

(Oh and I've found my camera so I hope to upload some pictures tonight, there will be a jump where I lost it though)
 
Here's where I plan on getting my Brass: Brass Shotgun Shells | Shop Brass Shotgun Shells at Buffalo Arms

They have multiple gauge, here soon i plan on taking the measurements of the rounds in the paper plans over to BassPro and compare the gauges, then order a box of that gauge if the ones i have don't match up...

There are multiple nice things about the brass on that site:
1 - the hulls are completely bare, no disassembling live rounds
2 - The hulls are stamped with markings, they aren't BPRD, but for me it doesn't matter that much
3 - the space for the primer is also empty, so dropping something like a BB or a small bearing in there can simulate a primer
4 - they are long enough you can easily cut them to exact needed size

What do you mean you don't have access to sand cast? It's a pretty simply DIY project, you can get plans online for electric, propane/lng, and waste oil fueled furnaces. I'm going with electric myself because it's cheaper per hour than the other 2 methods and i have a 220 line on my patio leading to the central AC unit i can tap into and install a plug... Most of the LPG/LNG and Electric furnaces can melt up to and including bronze without any added equipment, a waste oil furnace with an electric blower can melt iron...

You can pretty much learn exactly how to do the casting straight from youtube, there's a channel on there from myfordboy who has a 38 part series on sand casting using a homemade propane furnace, and his blog tells how to make it with dimensions and everything...

I haven't started my own thread, because with yours started i felt it wasn't necessary until i actually start the entire process... Which I might just do some threads detailing my own experiences now that i know others might benefit...

My thought on the tracer round was to make the bullet from clear resin, and since the brass from the shell doesn't have a primer pin, i would fashion a plug for the pin hole, then on the day of dress up, i would use a syringe to extract fluid from a green glowstick, and inject it into the round via the primer pin hole, then plug the hole, maybe seal with some bees wax just to make sure the hole is sealed and presto, flowing liquid tracer rounds...

For the holy water i was going to do something similar, place the dry objects in the round before i seal the clear bullet, then inject water or mineral oil (water could eventually corrode the brass) into the round via the primer pin hole and then glue a bb into the primer spot and make sure it's sealed...

For the normal rounds, i was just going to cast them...

Conflicting issues... The handle seems to be done wrong... not like horribly wrong, but looking at the actual prop there is a curvature to the metal frame leading into the handle behind/below the trigger that on the prop makes the gun more ergonomic.
also, from looking at the very bottom of the handle, you see there's a metal plate held in by a nut that has the ring... well in truth, that is there because the handle is a solid piece of wood. This was pretty common for old guns, and it would have a construction similar to how a sword handle is attached to the hilt and blade. The handle frame would have, essentially a tang for lack of a better term, with a threaded rod welded that leads through the bottom of the handle, that plate serves as both an washer for the nut and a spacer to make sure when the nut is tightened it makes a solid and stable connection...

When i start my build thread, i will show and explain more i think...

Also, you will notice that the papercraft version has the sight rail a little taller than the prop, meaning there's a little more space between the barrel and the rail, but honestly, it's not THAT big of a difference... though when i do some measuring for the gauge of the round it might make a difference...
 
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