Han Solo ANH Hero Blaster Flash Hider *FOUND*

[rocketeer25]

Well, sounds like everyone did send the guy an email, and he's none too happy about it. I've gone through and removed the links as requested.

Please, guys, don't ruin this for everyone. Sounds like a deal is being setup for a run. Let's see how it plays out...

The gentleman who owns the site has been getting a lot of "spam" from the people at RPF about the Flash Hider and is getting a little upset. If possible could this link be removed from the posts. I believe it appears on page 10 or 11 of this thread and is located in several posts who quoted the link.

A very respectable person is going to do a run on this and this guy is supplying the part to him. I just dont want to see this deal go sour because of a bunch of email from all of us Star Wars freaks. 

Lonnie

 

[RKW]

Spam?? Sounds more like an auction. You would have thought that this gun collector would be a bit more savy.

Very cloak & dagger stuff

 

[amish]

Originally posted by RKW@Sep 27 2005, 11:16 AM
Spam?? Sounds more like an auction. You would have thought that this gun collector would be a bit more savy.

Very cloak & dagger stuff

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He could become quite savy if enough of us Star Wars Fanatics start emailing him and he figures, heck, instead of $1000 dollars for this, why not $10,000.

Anyway, I am still floored by the events of the past few days here. Excellent work

 

[Gary Weaver II]

Too all of your greedy little morons who e-mailed the above collector and managed to piss him off...

Congrats...

Yet ANOTHER found part discovery marred by the greedy self centered actions of grown adults who should know better by now...

-Gary

 

[Gary Weaver II]

Oh, you can gurantee that a good percentage of those e-mails were offers to buy the part or cut some sort of deal right from the start.

Its part and parcel with every new part discovery. Certain people are so gung ho about having that one of a kind real part that they will step on anyone to get it. There is no love between members here once the real thing is identified. Unless you have the $$$$ you can't play. Even if you knew what the part was.

Why do you think I sat on the Rolls Royce engine info for IG-88 for so long? I knew that the minute the info came out I would NEVER get one at a good price. I've pretty much accepted that I'll never have one now... too bad, but I'm cool with it. Same can be said for the Kalimar Cameras and Eumigs. People knew, but they kept the info to themselves.

I can't blame them one bit after this disgusting display....

-Gary

 

[RKW]

Originally posted by gw2tulsa@Sep 27 2005, 03:24 PM
Too all of your greedy little morons who e-mailed the above collector and managed to piss him off...

Congrats...

Yet ANOTHER found part discovery marred by the greedy self centered actions of grown adults who should know better by now...

-Gary

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Well I have no beef in this as I have no interest in blasters but considering the amount of prop makers on this site and the potential profits they stand to make I can't really blame them for trying. I'd like to think that for most of us this is a hobby but I'm sure there are some here who do it primarily for the money.

I just hope Darth Lars gets some kind of remuneration out of this.

 

[gavidoc]

Nice work to those who just had to ask this guy about his hider. Yeah, complete strangers emailing him out of the blue and he won't get mad. Ya freakin moroons. Ahhhh....Let's see....First it was the Graflex....then the blaster scopes....then the MPP.....then the Obi grenade....then the Solo ANH scopes....then the Fett scopes....then the Praco...then the Eumig....now the ANH Solo suppressor....What will it be next?

And this crap about a "well respected member of the RPF" is doing a run of these.

That's a bunch of BS man. If the guy is "well respected" then there is no problem with just saying who it is IMO.

Hell, the guy is making a flash suppressor. Uhoh.....Watch out for the ATF... :rolleyes

 

[Gary Weaver II]

Gav, you fogot about the Kalimar 660 cameras

-Gary

 

[amish]

Gav,

The person doing the run asked his name not be mentioned, however, I feel he is a well respected member so I called it like i saw it.

I am sure anyone of you is welcome to do a run, I was just respecting this person's request for anonymity at this time.

Nothing more, nothing less.

edit: I imagine he didnt want his name mentioned because he would then be the subject of numerous PM's and emails before he even has anything made, similar to the guy that is getting all the inquiries from people here.

Thanks.

Tom

 

[gavidoc]

Not meant towards you Tom.

Towards the anonoymousiandish member. Don't want a ton of PM's and emails? Post about it. Then ignore those idiots who insist on emailing or PMing you.

That simple.

Gary,

don't know what the Kalimar cameras are. Mentioned the Eumig cause I saw you mention it. Those two happened while I was gone.

 

[amish]

Hi Gary,

Unfortunately, they are my words and not his. It was just my thought on why he may not want to advertise yet he is going to do a run. Besides, I dont believe anyone has the actual part yet to even confirm a 100% definite run.

So, in essence, I am the one who you should be mad at But, I am not the one doing the run. I just thought it made sense.

Anyway, I just hope that things will settle and we can all wait for an accurate piece while we twiddle our thumbs and bang our heads that this wasnt discovered before today.

That is the one thing that amazes me. Star Wars was made a little less then 30 years ago, and it has taken all this time to figure out what this part is.

AMAZING I tell you, AMAZING.

Of course, there are those people out there who probably already knew and just like watching us squirm

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by amish@Sep 27 2005, 04:38 PM
Of course, there are those people out there who probably already knew and just like watching us squirm

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I KNOW this is true.
Okay - so the info I posted concerning 'Japanese' machine guns was not accurate.
But I know damn well I SAW the hider posted here not too long ago.
And one member (you know who you are- but I can't remember) posted ' '
when another member said, "Hey, that looks like the Solo ANH hider?"

Keep it secret, keep it safe.

Yeah right.
For many members here it's time to start sharing info rather than all that moustache twirling BS.

Congrats on finding it guys - now play this out right FCOL.

Howard.

 

[Prop Runner]

Guys,

Given how rare these parts are and how expensive a functional MG81 is, unlike a Graflex, I doubt that any serious MG81 owners will part with theirs, so I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch over the initial rush of offers. I just hope they'll be willing to allow caliper measurements and scale-reference photos to be taken. If any that are found are located in Southern or Central California, or if one of us gets their hands on a suppressor, I'd be happy to do what's needed.

- Gabe

 

[Axlotl]

AWESOME WORK, GUYS.. :thumbsup

I've spent YEARS looking at machine guns trying to identify that part.
I never did buy that "fire extinguisher" hooey.

I'm sure I'll never even SEE a real one, much less own one, but I know what it is and where it came from now, so I'm happy.

Just like the good old days . It was so much more fun when you had to research this stuff and build it yourself out of blood, sweat, and tears. Now you can just buy 'em, if you got the bread. Not so special anymore...

 

[lonepigeon]

I've been hesistant to share info several times and have held back info on purpose for this very reason.
It's not really "mustache twirling BS", it's to prevent big blunders like what just happened.
History repeating.

 

[eFXBarry]

Go away for a few days and look what happens...

Congrats for identifying the flash suppressor as belonging to the MG81. I'd had the info on the flash suppressor belong to a WW2 Aircraft for a little while and didn't think to share it here because people seemed so adamant that it was a proven Fire Extinguisher nozzel.

So what lessons can we learn from this?

Without absolute back-up proof - actual part in hand, unimpeachable photographic reference/blueprints - we should always take unproven assertions as suspect. Opinions are fine, we all have 'em, but listening to other theories just may shine some light where light needs to be.

Why do people lie when claiming to know the identity of long sought after widgets? Sometimes, they're just looking for kudos and their 15 mins of fame. Sometimes, they know full well what the part is but think a false trail will keep people off the scent long enough for them to find an original part before what has just happened (again) happens, and the now identified original part owners become aware of the perceived value of these pieces to other collectors.

Either way, berrating people for being overly enthusiastic and excited about these finds is silly. This is a public forum for sharing ideas... Saying you want help identifying something and then wishing you were among the select few who knew about it is self-defeating. That lack of freedom of information is what creates tiers and eschelons within this community of those in the "know". That's just elitist BS.

A week ago the Han ANH Blaster Flash Suppressor was a Fire Extinguisher Nozzel. A week later we now know it's an MG81 flash hider. That's great news.

So please hold off on the finger pointing while "the committee decides the best approach solution," cause this place is a public forum and no committee was in charge of the discovery. Like everything in life, if commonsense prevails, great. If it doesn't (and it so rarely does) you deal.

Congrats again everyone on a great find.

Barry

 

[amish]

Just reading some great posts in this entire thread, if you go back and read everything again, it is almost like a suspense novel

I am more excited abou this then I was when I first bought a Graflex 5 years ago. To think, I started this thread for the sole reason of finding out who made the best replica of the Flash Suppressor, and here we are now knowing what the actual item is.

The most amazing part of this is that it was an effort made by everyone. However, Darth Lars, put the leg work in and made the right contact to find the actual part. I cannot thank him enough for that.

WHOOOOO HOOOOOOOO

 

[Durasteel Corporation]

So please hold off on the finger pointing while "the committee decides the best approach solution," cause this place is a public forum and no committee was in charge of the discovery. Like everything in life, if commonsense prevails, great. If it doesn't (and it so rarely does) you deal.

If I might point out the obvious here......


The first person to find the pot of gold, profits from it.

The first person to do an accurate run of the piece in question makes the money.

Why is this reality so suprising. Of course the gold rush is on.

I think I would also be correct in saying "big" money was made based on RPF research.


Im just happy to have helped out and add to the body of knowledge. And if I can find an original, sure Ill do a run too. Im on my way to the MG84/1 shop up the road right now as a matter of fact.

and on that note (no I havent left yet) why should anyone be upset that someone is offering stuff to others.....unless they want to be the first to make that money....whats the point of sitting on info that translates into what people want??

While I have not emailed anyone except for this local shop, what gets me is there is supposed to be this organized approach......who organizes it....who decides who can and cannot do a run?

That hardly seems fair for a thread designed to yield public knowledge....only to be the informational domain of a few. Are we communists or capitalists? Are we socialists....well, then, better not ask anyone for help...

Forgive my rant here fellas, but thats the problem with either system....either way, somebody wins...somebody doesnt. Im being realisitic.

Until there is such a thing as RPF healthcare....well, nevermind.

 

[JHVanOphem]

I think the worst side effect to the discovery is not the who rushes out to make money thing, or who spoiled the "secret". Its annoyance.

Look at the poor fellow here who happened to have the correct part. He starts getting dozens of unwanted e-mails suddenly. All from these Star Wars geeks. What is he going to tell his buddies in his hobby/business? "Don't you dare let on you have an M81 flash suppressor, or you are going to get hounded."

I think in the excitement we can sometimes do more harm for the hobby by wanting a piece of the action.

I can see why some people keep secrets. Its not that they are hoarding the knowledge for themselves. They are respecting potential sources from being needlessly harassed.

Its almost better in a case like this to have someone identify the piece, identify somebody with an original in good shape, arrange to have it duplicated, and once a ready supply is on hand, then to announce the information. That way it becomes a revelation with instant satisfaction on acquiring one.

Of course the problem there is there will be multiple people who want to manufacture their own copies, either for personal reasons, or as seems more typical around here lately, for profit.

 

[amish]

Well, I think if anyone wants to do a run that is up to them. In my opinion the more people working on something, the more choices we have. For instance if Person A does this, and I dont like it, I am going to buy from Person B.

The reason why some got upset, is because there is a limited number of resources, and one was made very public here in this thread. That resource was made public here, and they felt harassed by the sudden influx of emails, phone calls, and such. In the end it is not our decision to tell this person how they should feel about this, it is his right to be free from harassment plain and simple.

Anyway, I think it stated what everyone else has already said before me so I will leave it at that

Great Job everyone.