Guardians Of The Galaxy Volume 3
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I still think it would have been better he goes oh s*** I forgot it. How many times have you gone for something you normally carry and that is when you learn.. oops. In that way he wouldn't even have to say a thing, we would know visually from a frustrated expression when he reaches to activate. It would have prevented all the WTF where is his helmet? We shouldn't have to check out directors interviews after the movie. It's an often used life preserving piece of his gear and signature look that causes a legit WTF.
I'm not as invested in this as the above makes it sound, just since we are nit picking.
I'm not as invested in this as the above makes it sound, just since we are nit picking.
Its this line of reasoning that led to NR creating the video in the first place. Quill didn't forget his helmet\mask. He didn't have it. It was destroyed. James Gunn is not beholden to the Russos disregarding continuity. They're the ones that should be fielding all the questions about why they gave Star-Lord his helmet back when last we saw, it was destroyed. So, no you're no scenario would not have been better in any way, shape, or form. It would have been doubling down on an already stupid mistake. You never had to check out any interviews after the fact. All you had to do was watch the movies and pay attention.
Helmet didn’t bump for me at all… when he hit space my thinking went “oh **** he wasn’t wearing his helmet”
And that’s it. I didn’t try and backtrack to when he last had it… haha.
It’s weird, when I saw the holiday special I said to my buddy that Starlord finally seemed “right” again… less jokey/dumb… Thor worshiping? (I only saw love and thunder once… but I recall him being excited for thor saying his big line….)
But after this movie, yeah, I see Gunn wasn’t impressed with that Starlord just from that elevator scene…
I’m glad he took it all back - as much as he could anyway….
And that’s it. I didn’t try and backtrack to when he last had it… haha.
It’s weird, when I saw the holiday special I said to my buddy that Starlord finally seemed “right” again… less jokey/dumb… Thor worshiping? (I only saw love and thunder once… but I recall him being excited for thor saying his big line….)
But after this movie, yeah, I see Gunn wasn’t impressed with that Starlord just from that elevator scene…
I’m glad he took it all back - as much as he could anyway….
Was his helmet not replaceable? Or maybe it is some rare gear difficult to replace, I mean he lives in Knowhere, a big hub of trade and tech I would think. Could have been a good opportunity for a new design.
Now you're just making up excuses for poor storytelling on the Russos part. Gunn destroyed it for a reason and obviously didn't want him to have it back, otherwise he would've included a tidbit about it. Giving Rocket Bucky's arm in the Holiday Special was Gunn's way of getting back at Marvel for the mask. As explained in the New Rockstars video, now it's up to them to tell the audience how he got it back. This whole mask thing was just silliness from fans who clearly didn't pay attention.
Years between movies you don’t catch or retain all this stuff. They do explanations and reminders like the elevator scene sometimes. So some fans wondered and found the interview first I guess.
IDK if I'd really classify this as "poor storytelling" on the part of the Russos.
I understand & agree that the GotG is Gunn's baby, but for better or worse, each of the MCU films need to be complete, but also serve the larger story being told. That larger story was INFINITY WAR & ENDGAME. The Russos had the ball at that point & whatever decisions that Feige signed off on that served their story, I think, trumps whatever led up to it.
Helmet & boot rockets aside, Gunn took much more issue with Gamora dying. That was something that he hadn't planned on, but it was one of the emotional lynchpins to the movies to me. It greatly served the overall story more than anything she could've done in Vol 3, again, in the greater MCU.
I love most of what Gunn has done in his career, & I think fans love him because out of all the high profile directors the MCU has had, he's probably the most fan accessible, fan friendly, & the one must associated with his particular films, & while I totally understand & support his place, he's ultimately just a very famous cog in the MCU machine.
Definitely all of that is true and fair. I guess I just take issue with the so called "fans" who think they're being clever for pointing out supposed continuity errors, plot holes, or bad writing on Gunn's part when really it was the Russos who ignored this small bit of continuity. They should have been the ones to answer why Star-Lord suddenly had his mask back if it was really such a big deal in the first place. Gunn was just sticking to what he had already established and didn't feel needed addressing. The fact he decided to reply to some fans seems to have been done more out of good natured fun, then any sort of, "oops, you caught me!" sort of moment.
So did most people here see the 2D version? How were the 3D effects?
ArtistTheGeek
Sr Member
I saw both (and 4DX) and the 3D is really effective in this film!
ArtistTheGeek
Sr Member
I only use screen x if I think a film will really suit it. top gun Maverick was quite good having the sky going all round your peripheral vision in the flying scenes
I've become slightly obsessed with Lylla and Rocket and Floor and Teefs since my second viewing. Especially Lylla and Rocket. (Well, I've seen those scenes a few more times...) Maybe it's because our kitten (we have 6 cats) is just getting over FIP (a deadly disease you have to get meds for on the black market because the license holder refuses to license the cure for animal use). And one of our female cats is SO like Lylla in temperament. I don't know... no other movie has affected me this hard since "My friends, you bow to no one!". (Well, episode 9 and 10 of Picard Season 3 hit pretty hard, but in a different way.) Maybe because the scenes with Rocket and his friends were so beautifully written, rendered and acted. (I mean, just thinking about the way Lylla says "friend"... *sniff*.) The effects may have been lapse in some recent MCU stuff, but in VOl 3 it is near flawless.
I've actually started sculpting Lylla to at least print in 1/6... maybe I'll even do a 1:1 and finally finish my full size Rocket statue....
"If anyone has a way of reaching Gunn, please ask him to confirm that Lylla's promise to Rocket was, in fact REAL and not a hallucination from his oxygen-deprived brain! My sanity depends on it, haha. "It's just a movie." Yeah."
HMSwolfe
Master Member
So, I went and saw it again last night.
I don’t think it can be overstated how grateful I am to have experienced this trilogy in its original run. I didn’t grow up with the Star Wars original trilogy in theaters—I’m even too young to have caught the Special Editions in the 90s. But I have to imagine the feelings of seeing those movies at the time, for the first time—the awe, the fun, the connection to those characters, and the bittersweetness of watching them take their bows, so to speak—have to be similar to what I felt watching the ending to Volume 3. I’ll always have a fondness for everyone involved in these movies, beyond even the rest of Marvel, for the most part, I think.
I don’t think it can be overstated how grateful I am to have experienced this trilogy in its original run. I didn’t grow up with the Star Wars original trilogy in theaters—I’m even too young to have caught the Special Editions in the 90s. But I have to imagine the feelings of seeing those movies at the time, for the first time—the awe, the fun, the connection to those characters, and the bittersweetness of watching them take their bows, so to speak—have to be similar to what I felt watching the ending to Volume 3. I’ll always have a fondness for everyone involved in these movies, beyond even the rest of Marvel, for the most part, I think.
I, like many on the RPF, saw Star Wars in theaters when it came out, and while it's been a HUGE part of my life, probably responsible for my career as well as a bunch of other things, I have to admit that the Guardians movies are deeper, more hard-hitting movies in some ways. It was pretty emotional watching Yoda die, Han get captured, and Vader being unmasked, but nothing like feeling for what Rocket had to go through. Lylla, and Rocket, and Floor and Teefs.
He got in on the next group buy. Expected fulfillment is Feb 2024 which means he will probably have it by 2025, if he's lucky.
As long as he is not waiting on eFX, he'll be OK.
