Greedo Blaster Discussion
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The problem is the minute you finish it some genius on here will find the real part. Of course that may only happen to me by some bizarre universal law. :lol
Mara Jade's Father
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That's pretty interesting but just because it is related from a licensed product does not mean that they got direct from the source reference info. When designing the 6" Greedo figure, Hasbro utilized images of a Greedo blaster made by a member here many years ago.
I find some of the details intriguing, the mystery side bit, and that weird arrow on the grip. The details not correct (at least as I understand it) are the thin trigger guard and the presence of a trigger.
mtotin
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I think it is great that Hasbro used a fan's work in the development of their product. However, as you mentioned, the game IS licensed. As far as the logo on the grip panels, that is obviously an artists interpretation that had to be made to not have the Ruger logo. My focus was more for the left side of the blaster which shows the rectangular greeble on the barrel that seems to match production stills. As far as any other minor differences, I am happy to mark it up to production needs or that of customization from the OEM product that would make Greedo's blaster his own. I imagine he might have to modify the blaster to accommodate his fingers, or not. Just fan theory. And just trying to help.
Once again, my point was to show an image that details that mystery greeble on the left side. Which I think that image does a good job of.
For anyone that might be interested in what the right side of the DT-12 Heavy Blaster looks like in the video game. Here ya go.
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You can also find game play videos with it, if you want to see it in action.
p.s. If they didn't have reference material we haven't found here, they still did a fantastic job of building a 3D model of a weapon. And that would be as much fan art as anything any of us build here.
Once again, my point was to show an image that details that mystery greeble on the left side. Which I think that image does a good job of.
For anyone that might be interested in what the right side of the DT-12 Heavy Blaster looks like in the video game. Here ya go.
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You can also find game play videos with it, if you want to see it in action.
p.s. If they didn't have reference material we haven't found here, they still did a fantastic job of building a 3D model of a weapon. And that would be as much fan art as anything any of us build here.
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mtotin
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The creative team on the game was given full access to the LucasFilm Archives to reference the original props for their models. So there is that.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/18/tech/gallery/star-wars-battlefront/
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x206ahq_star-wars-battlefront-behind-the-scenes_videogames
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/18/tech/gallery/star-wars-battlefront/
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x206ahq_star-wars-battlefront-behind-the-scenes_videogames
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
First of all, Hasbro is Licensed too. Which is why I used it as an example of Licensed companies having to go elsewhere for info. Most of the time when companies have licenses with LFL, they are provided a data disc of photos of props and costumes cataloged for the archives or stills/set images.
As far as I have seen of the Greedo blaster, there is no indication that the prop was built off a real firearm. Most likely they took a cast of a firearm. Then did some modifications to the pro such removing the trigger and trigger guard, made a new casting (or simply took that one) and added the bits and pieces. The same thing they did to make the DH-17
The images of the prop are very black as if painted or molded in black resin. I know of no instance where production in A New Hope repainted real weapons. Most likely because they were rented from prop houses. Also. It seems that the prop is the same one used in both the Pinewood Studios shots and the US based pickup shots. If that is the case, customs would never allow the transportation of a firearm. This is the reason production had to build Han's Greedo Killer. They had to remake the weapon for the pickup shots.
I think the image you have is just some artist's attempt to recreate what the weapon looks like. He knew it was based off a Mk1 so he found a image of a real MK1 and simply added the details he believe to be on it based on images like the ones we use to make replicas. But he missed details like the trigger guard modification for the large Rodian fingers, the black grips, and that the actual prop appears to be missing the magazine.
Additionally, whatever is left of the prop, I would believe it is not in its Greedo Blaster configuration. The last time this prop was seen, it looked like this: http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=201887&page=11&p=3647302&viewfull=1#post3647302 (Holiday Special). Therefore it sort of busts the idea that Battlefront artists did a exact drawing of the existing prop.
mtotin
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You are correct, mostly. The rectangular form can be seen on frames from the movie and in stills from some of the behind the scenes shots. The holiday special blaster looks more like the Jawa version. And given they could be the same blaster, after the fact. They aren't the Greedo blaster anymore than the game model is.
I have no proof that the artists that created the model for Battlefront had any resource that we don't have(currently). As stated, I just showed it to show that others had created the blaster with the rectangular form.
I personally like the Battlefront version and will be using it as the base for my next DT-12.
I have no proof that the artists that created the model for Battlefront had any resource that we don't have(currently). As stated, I just showed it to show that others had created the blaster with the rectangular form.
I personally like the Battlefront version and will be using it as the base for my next DT-12.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
What i tried show in the pictures I linked above is that i believe there is more to the left side detail than just rectangle. I believe that due to low resolution, that detail piece has more detail. The images I selected and circled are all instances in which I believe the piece on the side is the same although the barrel muzzle has been switched. In each case, there is evidence to a piece being more that a simple rectangle piece. Now I unfortunately cannot prove that the side detail is the same as it progressed from Pinewood, to CA pick up shots, to the Holiday Special but I do believe the evidence is there to support than each case the piece(s) in question are more than a simple rectangle.
But I agree that on initial glance it does look like a rectangle. And I am confident that the artist that did the image for Battlefront saw it the same way. Which is why I continue to support my stance that the image does not grant us further insight into details of the actual prop, just what he can make out from the images most of us see.
But I agree that on initial glance it does look like a rectangle. And I am confident that the artist that did the image for Battlefront saw it the same way. Which is why I continue to support my stance that the image does not grant us further insight into details of the actual prop, just what he can make out from the images most of us see.
mtotin
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Which part of the top are you talking about?
Down the sight path is a tube with TomTit pistons at each end, with the original Ruger sight in the rear.
Covering the ejection port on the right side is the TomTit pontoon piece with signal cable reduction adapters in the center.
And, of course, the left side is what we're trying to figure out.
I haven't seen much talk about the piece on the back of the blaster, though I may have missed it. My working guess right now is the rubber foot from the Michelle record player that other parts have come from. I am in the process of ordering some Bright Star IsoNode feet right now, to see how they look and work. It could just as likely be a bolt cap or any number of model pieces.
Also, my seamstress is sending me some rivet caps that she thinks might work. So, I'll share what I find. Though it won't confirm anything for actual use.
Down the sight path is a tube with TomTit pistons at each end, with the original Ruger sight in the rear.
Covering the ejection port on the right side is the TomTit pontoon piece with signal cable reduction adapters in the center.
And, of course, the left side is what we're trying to figure out.
I haven't seen much talk about the piece on the back of the blaster, though I may have missed it. My working guess right now is the rubber foot from the Michelle record player that other parts have come from. I am in the process of ordering some Bright Star IsoNode feet right now, to see how they look and work. It could just as likely be a bolt cap or any number of model pieces.
Also, my seamstress is sending me some rivet caps that she thinks might work. So, I'll share what I find. Though it won't confirm anything for actual use.
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Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
Most people have used a plastic screw cover found in hardware stores for the back bump. Not sure if there has been positive ID.
Thank you! I saw someone used a tube mounted on a block for the antenna thing but I hadn't seen anyone actually post that it was a tube and not t track or something. ..I thought it was a DIY and wanted to ask...what are people using as a mount for the tube then¿
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