Game of Thrones
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kibosh
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Something is bothering me from last night's episode. When Jon has Dany in the cave, and he's telling the story, he tells her that the Children banded together with the First Men to fight the Others. But the Children created the Others to fight the First Men. Is Jon just misreading the drawings? What's your take on it?
SmilingOtter
Master Member
They created the Others, but found they couldn't control them - my opinion.
Yes, the Children originally created the Others\White Walkers to help fight against the First Men. Then, their creation got out of control and the Long Night\Night King happened. At that point the Children and the First Men had to join together to fight the Night King and his army. This is also when the Wall was built and the Night's Watch was founded.
Solo4114
Master Member
Built by Bran the Builder.
That's right, folks. Bran the Builder.
Yeah, my wife was very conflicted there. The show, however, dodged everything by not actually killing anyone. Not even Dickon. That and the wormholes thing were jarring to me, and felt cheap. Because, let's be honest here: Jaime ain't dying there. Jaime's gonna die by his own hand, I suspect. No pun intended...
Yes, there's been more than one Brandon Stark. Please tell me you're not going with the fan theory that the current Brandon Stark was ALL the Brandon Starks throughout history, though. Or at least that he was Bran the builder. I mean, c'mon. How lame would that be?
Solo4114
Master Member
Oh, no, I'm saying that he'll be able to see what Bran the Builder did and use that knowledge to help defeat the Night's King.
But now that you mention it, he could be Bran the Builder, in a sense. His character could be a "closed circle." You see this in Babylon 5, but that involves literal time travel. With Bran, it would involve warging back into someone in history, and planting an idea within them a la what he did with Hodor.
jlee562
Sr Member
Here's the excellent behind the scenes for this episode, if you didn't watch already: https://youtu.be/pE2wcBeyNdk
As far as I remember, they haven't really been featured in the show beyond Davos suggesting Stannis hire them back when Stannis was looking for an army. Their story line appears to have been cut out of the show so far.
You'll have to look to the books for more info on the Golden Company, namely Dance with Dragons. It introduces a seemingly very important character ( at least in the books) who also has a claim to the throne and who Tyrion interacts with. Of course like the Quentyn arc, it probably will wind up going no where in the end
In the show, Jorah seems to have taken on the grey-scale thing that one of those characters in the book deals with
Actually, I believe Jorah also was a member of the Golden company before he joined Dany/Viserys
They could still theoretically include a very abbreviated version that story arc after-all by having Jorah take the place of Jon Connington and meeting up with the Golden company when they arrive in Westeros, although doubtful at this point
asalaw
Master Member
Depends on how they play it.
- The Iron Bank has offered to back her, but will that change after the loot train battle, now that the impact of Dany's dragons has been felt?
- Will recruitment go down once stories of men turned to ash on the battlefield begin to circulate among the people?
- Will whole armies break and run at the first sight of Drogon flying overhead?
Cersei has a whole new bundle of problems now, and simply buying mercenaries may not solve them.
kibosh
Sr Member
Theoretically, Cersei doesn't have any gold. She simply has zero debt now. The Iron Bank has all that gold, but I'm not sure how they'll get it back to the East.
Toadmeister
Sr Member
kegas76
Well-Known Member
Jim Broadbent (Archmaester Ebrose) was the potions teacher in H.P. & the Half-Blood Prince. He rewards Harry with a small vial of Felix Felicis (Liquid Luck) after Harry is the only one in class that successfully brews a batch of the Draught of Living Death, a feat that Harry only archives by following the precise notes made by a previous student (i.e. an old text).
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Monkey67
Sr Member
You can't kill Bronn, gonna be cool reunion next week.
Well soon there will be no one left for the white walkers to fight. Since armies are gone to the way side.
Dead army :
lannisters - lost half crew at castle rock and lost the other half to team dragon. Anyone left at KL, but can't be that much.
High garden withered out
Dorne got their battle ship sunk
on the ropes
Iron island :crew was already split up. Iron on iron attack took a good amount out. Go and sink the grey worm express ( but not too many guys on the boats since they were sacking the castle) hipster pirate men gotta to be getting low
king landing?--- who knows who is left, we'll call them the mixed bag of nuts
A little wounded / seen action:
The vale
winter fell
horse riders
unsullied
The unstoppable : Bear island rolling 11 deep
Well soon there will be no one left for the white walkers to fight. Since armies are gone to the way side.
Dead army :
lannisters - lost half crew at castle rock and lost the other half to team dragon. Anyone left at KL, but can't be that much.
High garden withered out
Dorne got their battle ship sunk
on the ropes
Iron island :crew was already split up. Iron on iron attack took a good amount out. Go and sink the grey worm express ( but not too many guys on the boats since they were sacking the castle) hipster pirate men gotta to be getting low
king landing?--- who knows who is left, we'll call them the mixed bag of nuts
A little wounded / seen action:
The vale
winter fell
horse riders
unsullied
The unstoppable : Bear island rolling 11 deep
