Limited Run === G R A F L E X === Flashgun Gen.2 ... now taking PRE-ORDERS!!! New Pics Oct. 5

[scarf man]

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Wait, how is my assertion that you don't understand why some of us want functioning flashes inaccurate? That's pretty much exactly what you're saying: that you don't understand why we want accurate flashes, right? Because such a desire is illogical according to the points you've stated. I'm simply stating the obvious: that you don't understand our desire, and therefore don't agree with it. What part of this assertion is incorrect?

You have no business making assertions as to my understanding, or ability to get your point. You're meant to debate the topic, not the man. You brought a personal attack into this debate, not me. If you'll notice, I did not dismiss your opinion as sentimental rubbish, I debated your example. "That's pretty much what you're saying:" is code for "let me twist your words to fit my opinion." I do understand your desire, and still don't agree with it. You're making it sound like understanding your desire and agreeing with it are mutually exclusive, they'er not.

That said, I never said you didn't care about the opinions of others or about accuracy in general.

I took this

If you can't understand why that's important to some, I don't think anything I say will get the point across.

to mean just that.

I've read many of your posts, and know that you do. No need to feel insulted. I certainly didn't mean to offend—just to point out we have different views that may not be easily changed by an exchange of a few posts.

If you had said that last part initially, I would not have taken offense. Clean, concise, and no aspersions.

And I'm not saying that your points aren't valid. At the end of the day, all of us that want functioning flashes could turn out to be an illogical bunch (your insinuations of which by way of pointing out no valid reasons exist for wanting a functioning flash could, ironically, have caused me just as much offense as what you said I was insinuating towards you—if I wanted to take such offense, which I don't). .

Again, apples and oranges. I took offense to a personal jab, not a rational deconstruction of a talking point.

Even if you can shoot down the associated points from my Obi pommel example, that was just one example off the top of my head to try to explain my desire to have a functioning flash.

:thumbsup

What if I forego examples associated with other sabers, and just say that I want to be able to say that I built my saber from a camera flash, instead of a tube replicating the appearance of a camera flash? Is that an important thing to be able to claim? I say yes.

:thumbsup

You likely disagree, which is where the fact that you, as you put it, "hold a different opinion." If you look back at the posts above, please realize that I never tried to attack the logic of your opinion. I've been instead defending the supposed lack-of-logic of mine. I have no problems with you not wanting a functioning flash.

I have no problem with you wanting a functioning flash, it's not personal. I want what's best for the group, as I see it.
In the end, we will of course agree to disagree on this one small point.

I really do understand the sentimental desire to have a functioning flash, and if the rise in cost were small, I'd be right along side you.
I've been around the block a time or two and have studied as a machinist, and know that adding functionality will bump the cost out of many members budget.
The needs of the many and all that.

Anyway, good debate, and no grudges I assure you.

 

[Spyhunter2k]

Re: === G R A F L E X === flashgun ... anyone? **??? QUESTION ???**

I didn't realize anything I'd said could be taken as a personal jab. Not my intention. I guess my feeling is that Roman simply wanted a show of hands to see who wants a functioning flash vs. doesn't. I said I'd like functioning. But then that seemed to evolve into those that don't trying to prove that we who do are silly/illogical by bringing up multiple reasons why a functioning flash adds nothing to its eventual purpose as a lightsaber replica. The problem with a simple vote turning into a debate is that after the majority post comments as to why it makes no sense to want a functioning flash, it's likely that some who do want one, for whatever reason, won't speak up, and the vote is skewed. We don't yet know what the rise in cost, or delay, would be for a functioning flash. I'd kind of like to see that first before getting into a debate of any depth.

 

[newmagrathea]

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Definitely interested in 1 complete, 1 3-cell bottom, and if you do an MPP at least 1 of those.

Just to throw my 2 cents in on the debate: perhaps he could offer both, one that functions (probably at a higher cost) and one that doesn't (just looks correct and a bit cheaper).

 

[PoopaPapaPalps]

Re: === G R A F L E X === flashgun ... anyone? **??? QUESTION ???**

Definitely interested in 1 complete, 1 3-cell bottom, and if you do an MPP at least 1 of those...

That's what I'm in it for. I support this so it pushes Roman to do a run of MPP's. Gimmie, gimmie; I'm fiending for one, daddy! :wacko

 

[newmagrathea]

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Also, I'm curious on how long your sale is going to go? The AC on my house just went out, I'm not sure what it's going to cost me yet. But I'd really like to get a kit and help with funding the project.

 

[Romans Empire]

Re: === G R A F L E X === flashgun ... anyone? **??? QUESTION ???**

Also, I'm curious on how long your sale is going to go? The AC on my house just went out, I'm not sure what it's going to cost me yet. But I'd really like to get a kit and help with funding the project.

Thanks for the support. :thumbsup I'm not entirely sure how long the sale will run. At least through the end of the month.

Sorry about the AC

 

[LB66679]

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That's what I'm in it for. I support this so it pushes Roman to do a run of MPP's. Gimmie, gimmie; I'm fiending for one, daddy! :wacko

oooooh I want some mpp's too !!

 

[Tom1971]

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oooooh I want some mpp's too !!

Yeah, if you were to do MPPs I would need two of those as well.

Let's see:

1 or 2 Graflex

2 MPPs

ANH Obi

Roman could end up with a lot of my money.

Tom

 

[LB66679]

Re: === G R A F L E X === flashgun ... anyone? **??? QUESTION ???**

Yeah, if you were to do MPPs I would need two of those as well.

Let's see:

1 or 2 Graflex

2 MPPs

ANH Obi

Roman could end up with a lot of my money.

Tom

i would take two of each , graflex and mpp !

 

[Spyhunter2k]

Re: === G R A F L E X === flashgun ... anyone? **??? QUESTION ???**

Roman could end up with a lot of my money.

Tom

lol:thumbsup

 

[LTsmash1200]

Re: === G R A F L E X === flashgun ... anyone? **??? QUESTION ???**

Roman could end up with a lot of my money.

Tom

Same. Already bought a weathered Obi, at some point I want one of they shiny AFBB ones, definitely getting at least 1 Graflex, and if he did the MPP, would absolutely be getting 1 of those too.

 

[Tom1971]

Re: === G R A F L E X === flashgun ... anyone? **??? QUESTION ???**

Yeah, if you were to do MPPs I would need two of those as well.

Let's see:

1 or 2 Graflex

2 MPPs

ANH Obi

Roman could end up with a lot of my money.

Tom

Always weird quoting myself but I forgot. My first Obi is gonna be ANH but AFB so I will also need to get a second to be weathered/beat up Ep IV version.

More money for Roman.

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Same. Already bought a weathered Obi, at some point I want one of they shiny AFBB ones, definitely getting at least 1 Graflex, and if he did the MPP, would absolutely be getting 1 of those too.

Reverse for me. AFB first then old/beat up. Either way good for Roman, good for us.

 

[DarthDimitri]

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Interested in 1 for sure, possibly 2 depending on price.

 

[dr_slurpee]

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Interested in one pending final price and product details.

 

[LB66679]

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I'm going to have to change my interest to two depending on price . Also the whole working or not working thing , I would like it to be a straight replica of the original piece but for cost reasons a static piece would be fine as long as I can disassemble it . I like seeing how things go together . In other words , I want the clamps and buttons to come off so I can lay it all out and stare at it hahahahaha

 

[Romans Empire]

Re: === G R A F L E X === flashgun ... anyone? **??? QUESTION ???**

Got a quote on the bulb holder (bunny ears) today!! *whew* Gonna start putting the list together!

 

[JediHomer]

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Got a quote on the bulb holder (bunny ears) today!! *whew* Gonna start putting the list together!

WOOT!

out of plain curiosity, how many total individual parts have to be created for this project and are they all, or the majority, being done by different shops? HUGE undertaking in any event, lol, hope you've got help nearby because me thinks if the list is what it is length wise for just 'interest', as soon as you post pics i think you'll go viral!

 

[DarthDimitri]

Re: === G R A F L E X === flashgun ... anyone? **??? QUESTION ???**

I'm going to have to change my interest to two depending on price . Also the whole working or not working thing , I would like it to be a straight replica of the original piece but for cost reasons a static piece would be fine as long as I can disassemble it . I like seeing how things go together . In other words , I want the clamps and buttons to come off so I can lay it all out and stare at it hahahahaha

this made me laugh. You are just like me. With everything coming apart and being able to put it back together is like an experience.. for me it is t least lolll.

 

[LB66679]

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this made me laugh. You are just like me. With everything coming apart and being able to put it back together is like an experience.. for me it is t least lolll.

Yeah I want to take my stuff apart and see all the little parts and how they fit together !! I used to take my dads old electronics apart and lay it all out and put it all back together . I've always been interested in how things work !

 

[propmainiac]

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Yeah have all the parts in a case like a sniper rifle in a spy movie! Open it up and then just screw it all together! lol