Here's a comparison of the MoM end and my vintage Linhof clip on a New York Folmer tube. Controlling for tube size then lining up the raised sections of the clip this is what I get:WAIT is the bottom tube bigger on the vader stunt? The kobold is no where near the rim, and we know it at least almost touches one of the graflex edges.
So, the Kobold is most likely the same size on both sabers. If you're getting a difference in Kobold when controlling for tube size, does that mean the tube sizes are actually different?Here's a comparison of the MoM end and my vintage Linhof clip on a New York Folmer tube. Controlling for tube size then lining up the raised sections of the clip this is what I get:
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So, the Kobold is most likely the same size on both sabers. If you're getting a difference in Kobold when controlling for tube size, does that mean the tube sizes are actually different?
Yea, let me clarify, I'm sorry. We shouldn't be matching the diameter of the tube, but the kobold measurements instead. I don't think there's any chance the Kobold clip was modified. Match the Kobolds and I think we'll see the tubes are different diametersThe purple measurement arrows are the same for each side of the image.
With the tubes sizes matched I'm seeing the Kobold widths are the same and the raised sections are the same length. The difference I'm seeing in the Kobolds is that the lower section looks shorter on the MoM. Possibly shortened since the cave shot? It's easy for me to think the corners are closer to the D-ring dings on the MoM than they are on the cave shot.
Let me clarify: everything else matches. The one thing that doesn't line up is the lengths of the Kobolds, as the lower (un-drilled) section of the MoM is shorter than the lower section on my clip. That is the only thing that doesn't match in my comparison of the two photos.Yea, let me clarify, I'm sorry. We shouldn't be matching the diameter of the tube, but the kobold measurements instead. I don't think there's any chance the Kobold clip was modified. Match the Kobolds and I think we'll see the tubes are different diameters
Guys this might be the same Kobold and D ring. Maybe this is the bottom can that was puttied up for ROTJ
hey, here is a photo I posted a few years back comparing two kobold clips, those cannot be trusted, they differ often like with all vintage stuff:
I think the less consistent feature on those is "the step", the bottom part on my photos. they were probably done last and sometimes a bit by hand as can be seen on some, like if it was grinded or something.Nice. Looks like the widths are probably going to be pretty consistent -- they couldn't vary too far without losing the ability to hold the reflector, right?
Would they have been extruded, then cut to length and finished? I'm afraid my knowledge of manufacturing techniques is abysmal.
Hey Tom, yes I completelly understand what you mean, my point was to say that we couldn't really base our comparison with any random kobold clip we have at home as they might not be the same size as the one used on the ESB saberThis is all really useful! Not to be a downer but we have multiple marks matching these two kobold pieces, I was never questioning that part, I thought it would be a good reference point to determine if the bottom tube changed from esb to jedi
ESB Bladed stunt - We actually have images (thanks to Scottjua I think) that show the hilt Mark holds doesn't have any bolts in it. The hero... we're tracking, and may have some new info soon!possibly the Vader stunt is theESB Heroconverted!