ESB AT-ST Turkey Walker (Chicken to the talented)

[Guy Cowen]

I just had to check my joins and cant resist a pit of primer to see how things are going. There's a few schoolboy errors in there but I aint starting over for a few mm out here and there. My only big regret is the holes round the plastruct dome, even though I only used a 1.5 mm bit they have come out quite wide looking.

Is it the end of the world, I think not as I'm extremely happy so far...give or take a bugger or dogmanit or 2...

When I first saw Lee's At-ST it completely blew me away, I never thought in a million years I'd be able to do that.... I'll never be as neat and precise as Lee but thanks to some serious inspiration from Lee's build I now have what I think could be a reasonable Chicken Head (not Turkey)??

I know the centre line is out, may or may not fill it yet and re scribe!!!!!

 

[ralphee]

Thats no Turkey mate, well done, as for neatness, you know its my thing Guy, id rather scrap out than settle, but, id say its your cleanest work by far.

If it were a Pheasant, id pluck it for sure :lol.

lee

 

[Guy Cowen]

I try mate I really do I just cant seem to get that pristine look that you have down. I keep thinking it looks neater than the original so thats good enough,,,,,I did think I was lazy with it but truth be known I just cant be ares'd....wait, that the same as Lazy. One thing I will stop doing is donor part placement at night under Kitchen lighting. I forgot that it caused me loads of trouble on the A wing as the shadows created where I sit really make stuff look spot on, then I wake up and see it under Day light and have that sinking feeling of ...... Doh!

 

[Guy Cowen]

A dilema I do have is wether to go for the filming version or idealised head. I think its cool to have it like the stop mo (naked on one side) but I really like the idea of having it symmetrical so to speak. I'm 70/30 in favour of the the latter at the mo.

Any thoughts?

 

[KrokoHunter]

Thanks Niels, be great to see an update when you can?

Well .. I had kind of a setback ... my own fault .... I didn't consider, that the styrene sheetthickness of .06" mentioned on Quincy's drawings was for a vac-plug ... which would lead to a thinner final wallthickness ...

so I started scratching mine in .06" sheet styrene .... bugger ....

After consulting Quincy .. and taking some measurements from the refs of the original .. we concluded that .04" would be a better suit ..

So I'm gonna build a new head...... you win some .. you lose some

 

[Guy Cowen]

To be honest I used 1mm (.040) and it worked ok, a lot easier to manipulate etc. You could always use this build to make the head side plates from, so not a total waste? It always good to have a round 2 though, well makes me feel better for making 3 complete heads and one practise. Are you building it pre shaped or as blocks you'll cut from?

 

[KrokoHunter]

Hey Guy ..

Yeah it's no big deal ... it's only a 1-2 days setback depending on the time I can find for modeling .... I'll soon be back on track.

Not sure what you mean with preshaped vs. blocks .... but I just cut the templates from Quincy's drawings which I've printed in 1:1 ... and then it's a matter of simple assembly ... will have to do som smoothing on the edges though

 

[Guy Cowen]

That answered my, very badly put question :behave

 

[imaginager]

A dilema I do have is wether to go for the filming version or idealised head. I think its cool to have it like the stop mo (naked on one side) but I really like the idea of having it symmetrical so to speak. I'm 70/30 in favour of the the latter at the mo.

Any thoughts?

Thoughts? Well, looking very good. Your top pic is very reminiscent of the photo-ref of the nearly same angle.

As far as your question...easy...you're a purist, at heart. Look at that A-Wing. I expect we'll be seeing a virtual duplicate of Jason's Japanese ref before the end of November.

 

[Guy Cowen]

I dont know about that Allan but I'll try mate, I think your right though keeping it original so to speak might be the way to go. I guess it would leave me some spare parts to do a Damaged head but from the opposite view.

 

[MonsieurTox]

I dont know why but from time to time I prefer to look at the non-hero side of my walker. Can't explain it, but it looks very good w/o any detail !

And it doesnt affect the front view, when you add greeblies on the non hero side of the legs you add thickness and the front profile is looking wrong.
I think it's just matter of replicating what would be a real AT-ST or replicating the stop-mo model. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Guy Cowen]

I'm with you Julien, I still Like the idea of it being a real Version, I guess I'll know more when I get an armature and start on the legs etc.... This will bug me for months.

 

[marvin]

I don't know what you are blabbering on about Guy.... she looks pretty darn sweet to me! Bit of polish and a second layer of primer and she's a real beauty :love

Can't help you on the hero-only first both sides detailed question. I'm still on the fence on this subject as well... I do kinda like my models to look "better" than the studio models, just because they are static models and you can see EVERYTHING....

If I were you I'd start with the hero-side only and see how you feel about it once that is completed....

BTW, any news about another armature run? I haven't had time to check with local machinists yet...

Marvin

 

[qcfoundry]

as for "real" vs. "studio"...
i think it boils down to kinda deep psych question of what you appreciate about the films...

do you enjoy the ships themselves...think of the world as being fascinating...remember sweet moments as a child playing with your toys and pretending to fight those little battles --- then you'll likely go with the "real" version.

or perhaps you appreciate the actual making of the film....the process of considering what would look good for filming...the process of what's efficient to produce just for the sake of "getting the shot". perhaps you're a purist in the film history sense -- then you'll likely go to the "studio" version.

just my 2 cents.

 

[Guy Cowen]

as for "real" vs. "studio"...
i think it boils down to kinda deep psych question of what you appreciate about the films...

do you enjoy the ships themselves...think of the world as being fascinating...remember sweet moments as a child playing with your toys and pretending to fight those little battles --- then you'll likely go with the "real" version.

or perhaps you appreciate the actual making of the film....the process of considering what would look good for filming...the process of what's efficient to produce just for the sake of "getting the shot". perhaps you're a purist in the film history sense -- then you'll likely go to the "studio" version.

just my 2 cents.

My trouble is I kinda like both :behave

I don't know what you are blabbering on about Guy.... she looks pretty darn sweet to me! Bit of polish and a second layer of primer and she's a real beauty :love

Can't help you on the hero-only first both sides detailed question. I'm still on the fence on this subject as well... I do kinda like my models to look "better" than the studio models, just because they are static models and you can see EVERYTHING....

If I were you I'd start with the hero-side only and see how you feel about it once that is completed....

BTW, any news about another armature run? I haven't had time to check with local machinists yet...

Marvin

Thanks Marvin, my trouble is I know Lee, his work is so so incredible that its hard to believe its hand made, anything I do just seems like its been pulled out of the trash :lol, its a very high bar to strive for but I'm glad it serves cold beer and White Russions.

As for an armature I believe Joe has organised something.

 

[joewhite]

I think it'll be studio for me. Although I can't tell if it's because I'm trying to do less work by not having to add extra parts.

Guy, Lee is a model badass! However, guys like me have followed your builds feeling the exact same you feel about Lee. Remember, you set that bar way up there as well!

About the armature. I won't name anyone right now but there may be something in the works. Sorry, I'd just hate to have anyone bombarded with questions without asking them for permission to release info. But it they are ok with it, I will definitely post any info I know.

Joe

 

[KrokoHunter]

Head v2 progressing


oh .. and :cheers

 

[joewhite]

Ok, I promised I'd post any info. I regret to inform that there will not be a run from the member (who wishes to remain anonymous) I have been talking to. Through no decision of mine, they have decided that they would only be making three. One for them, one for me and one for Guy. I was hoping for a run but again, that is not up to me. The decision was made mainly because the armatures are being made by hand and it would be too much for the machinist to commit to a run. Very understandable and I respect their decision. It's not my place to do so, but I still apologize if people were expecting me to get a run started.

Joe

 

[KrokoHunter]

Sorry to hear that Joe ... but great to hear, that you guys can proceed on your projects ...

My run of armatures is currently on halt ... it seems that my CNC friend is busy doing other stuff .. like snowboarding :-/

So I can't make any promises for a run .. but I'll really, really, really do whatever I can, to make it happen.

 

[marvin]

That's a real shame Joe. I was secretely gathering parts for a build of my own. I do hope Krok is able to put something together....

Marvin